<Bushmills> saved me possible woes with getting video going
<bfree> debian's 3.9 (sid) and 3.10 (experimental) images have armmp which supports the A10, however there's only what is supported inthe mainline kernel so no sd, usb, sata, eth or nand (at least) ... and only 3.9 has been compiled so far (3.10 still waiting for the buildd to get to it)
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<bfree> I'll probably get around to updating "deb http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/niall/debian/ ./" again soon enough which has a pretty bloated "desktop" style 3.4 sunxi kernel debian package (and headers package and u-boot) ... if you want to see if it floats your boat
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<Bushmills> desktop? over ssh/xdmcp or running some X11 itself, outputting to video monitor?
<bfree> it's just a kernel. desktop as in it's config is pretty similar to what you get from a desktop distro's kernel (e.g. lvm, nbd, nfs, tun, autofs, dvb stuff, etc etc)
<Bushmills> i haven't used video out from cubie a lot, due to my monitor having 1680x1050, and A10 appears wanting 1920x1080 or 1280x720, which are just bracketing the capabilities of mine
<naquad> rm, could you please put tour source tree online again? i want to try something
<naquad> s/tour/your
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<Bushmills> thanks, i'll try that one too
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<Bushmills> the governor which seems to support my usage pattern best as far appears to be the fantasy one. looks like it pushes clock up quickly on load or interaction, and reduces it gradually afterwards.
<Bushmills> ondemand keeps it too low sometimes for interactive use
<Bushmills> so if your kernel offers additional governors besides ondemand and performance, i'd not be unhappy about it.
<mike_sun> hi I finally get my wireless adapter working on cubie, but now when I'm using it, my cubie are turnning off
<mike_sun> what can I do?
<mike_sun> I'm using usb cable as power supply
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<mike_sun> any idea?
<mike_sun> thanks
<bfree> Bushmills: no fantasy in there (afaik it's some crazy allwinner creation) ... it has performance, userspace, ondemand and conservative
<bfree> mike_sun: probably a lack of power, what is your psu? normal usb 500ma?
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<mike_sun> I'm using my tv decoder usb as psu
<mike_sun> I'm really don't know if it is 500ma
<bfree> safe to say that's just normal 500ma ... probably not enough for your cubie+wifi. at least that is what I would presume
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<mike_sun> bree: thanks, when I'm using ethernet works fine, I believe you're right, I'll try another psu
<bfree> psu's for new ipads or psu's for the psp should be 2A ... or you could use a powered usb hub for the wifi. "normal" usb psu's are all just 500ma
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<mike_sun> good to know, thanks
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<mike_sun> bfree: I changed my psu for a mobile phone power supply and works great now ; )
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<hno> rm, gah.. I hate wifi modules. "The 8188cus and 8188eu version wifi module are the same from outside, and the manufacture doesn't distinguish them. You will receive either 8188cus or 8188eu chip inside wifi module.".
<hno> and that's different drivers.
<hno> but we do have the 8188eu driver in 3.4 staging I think.
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<user_2> dudes, i hear a lot about this 8188eu, bot i duno what special it is: why dont buy a different chipset? i feel good with ralink of zd1211..
<mike_sun> hey guys, the ubuntu image on cubie site(1.8GB) is the ubuntu with unity or lubuntu?
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<naquad> i somehow got 307M ram 0o
<naquad> wtf? and how do i fix that
<naquad> ?
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<naquad> thats my fex file
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<rm> <Bushmills> all bootable images i check out as far were lacking something. often something essential. no nfs, no autofs, now with cubian no tun.
<rm> so what is missing in mine? :)
<Bushmills> no idea yet. haven't downloaded yet. i went to sleep shortly after.
<Bushmills> (UTC+2)
<Bushmills> there's a .config for your kernel?
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<Bushmills> now that vmlinuz-3.4-29.sunxi.4-sunxi-sun4i is installed, sitting in boot - will i need to copy/link this to uImage?
<Bushmills> seems there's a config.gz in /proc which renders q for .config as answered
<Bushmills> i forgot that vmlinuz is gz-compressed :/
<Bushmills> another thoughtlessness with the premade cubian image is that the - benefit doubtful - swap partition sits right behind the root partition, which doesn't help resizing the volume
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<rm> Bushmills, configs to my kernels are posted next to the kernel .debs as .txt http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/kernel
<rm> uImage is not vmlinuz or vmlinux
<rm> it's in a different format
<Bushmills> noticed
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<Bushmills> rm, found something missing in your kernel :)
<Bushmills> # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set ->
<Bushmills> [FAIL] Starting automount...failed (failed to load autofs4 module).
<user_2> rm, does your kernel make function the audio on hdmi?
<Bushmills> autofs may make sense together with the tun support you're providing, as mounting remote volumes over a network is something you often want to do through a tunneled connection
<user_2> i am using cubian (i installed lxde, gnash, midori). youtube video works but theu are mute, no audio output.
<user_2> (with linaro audio works on hdmi, so it is not my hardware failure)
* jelly-home wonders what cubian is
<user_2> jelly-home shoud google "cubian cubieboard"
<jelly-home> ah, a nand image. I don't trust images from unknown people, I can barely let myself use rm's kernel <g>
* lerc also googles
<user_2> jelly-home, do you have a system to create a nnad image by yourself? i have not, so i must trust other people (and maybe recompile kernel as last activity with my tailored choose)
<jelly-home> user_2: I do not use nand at all.
<user_2> so, do you buind your own image for uSD?
<jelly-home> it's actually a sd/sata combo
<user_2> boot on uSD and root on sata?
<jelly-home> that's what it's going to be once it works
<user_2> jobe in progress :-)
<user_2> anyway, do you do 100% from scracth? if not, in means that also toy must trust someone else than you.
<jelly-home> indeed, but I have more faith in people who decribe the process to make their image than a kid that just provides the downloadable
<Bushmills> cubian also doesn't bother to set up loopback network device. some programs don't like that.
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<user_2> Bushmills, cubian make a script that make distro from scratch. you can downold and analize it, it is done in bash. (btw, i dowload it but i got errrs in execution, maybe anoter pair of eyes looking at it, can be able to make it run)
<Bushmills> yes, i know
<user_2> did you try the scriot with succe3ss?
<Bushmills> i'm just looking at the image to get an idea which image can be recommended, and which one less so, for folks looking for a ready to use image
<Bushmills> as far i only have forked and modified it a bit :)
<Bushmills> (and send the pull request)
<user_2> so, whet you tink to identified a good image, tell aso to me .-)
<Bushmills> i'll try it once i'm through modifying it ...
<user_2> so at the end i must trust you :-)
<Bushmills> apart from cleaning up some inconsistencies, that helped me getting a reasonable idea about what it is doing.
<Bushmills> sort of educative
<Bushmills> why would you do that, trusting me.
<Bushmills> you have no reason to
<user_2> it was a joke, never mind :-)
<user_2> the meaning is "if i will not do 100% by myself, it means that more or less, i must trust in the work someone did before me because i will use it".
<Bushmills> though those who can be trusted the least are the people saying that you can trust them
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<bfree> Bushmills: mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x40008000 -e 0x40008000 -n 3.4-29.sunxi.4-sunxi-sun4i -d /boot/vmlinuz-3.4-29.sunxi.4-sunxi-sun4i /boot/uImage-3.4-29.sunxi.4-sunxi-sun4i (install "my" u-boot=2012.10.01~git20130214-2 package or compile sunxi's u-boot if you don't have mkimage). p.s. I'm only here for a minute, going out for the day
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<rm> or just "make uImage"
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<wooy> user_2: i found cubian on git, but all i see are two markdown files :(
<user_2> markdown?
<wooy> .md
<wooy> git version of markup
<user_2> go there
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<wooy> great, thx
<user_2> yw
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<Linux34> Hi all
<Linux34> Cubian is ready.
<Linux34> but i have a probmle.
<Linux34> mpg123 cant give sound
<Linux34> mpg123 1al.mp3
<Linux34> alsa problem
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<Linux34> Who is working with mpg123 mp3 player
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<Linux34> armturkey.dyndns.org is working with Cubian and Cubieboard :)
<Linux34> armturkey.dyndns.org is working with Cubian and Cubieboard :)
<Linux34> is working : armturkey.dyndns.org
<Linux34> ???
<buZz_> no
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<Linux34> is working : armturkey.dyndns.org I CHANGE IP...
<buZz_> not working here
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<Linux34> is working : http://armturkey.dyndns.org
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<Linux34> CUBIAN is working.
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<Linux34> Cubian can install debian to Nand memry.
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<wooy> Linux34: is that debootstraped?
<Linux34> debootstraped ? sory my eng. is bad!
<Linux34> Im not understand.
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<Linux34> Cubian is a nwe img of Debian for Cubieboard.
<Linux34> and give ip adress with moors alphabet(work blue led ;)
<Linux34> Can you read moors alpabet :D
<Thihi> Morse*
<Linux34> Onboard LEDS show the IP address through Morse code (you don't need a HDMI screen neither USB-TTL cable and Router's admin privileges to start play cubieboard) Network and System status indicator using onboard LED
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<Linux34> mpg123 is problem with cubieboard
<Linux34> can play with mpg123 ??
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<wooy> Linux34: is there source available for your cubian build? (config files etc)
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<deasy> yup
<deasy> i have read the faq but it's also ok to power cubie if the ethernet is plub with only 2.5W ?
<deasy> plug*
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<user_2> rm, some qeustion for you
<user_2> rm, why did you activate RAID on your .config Linux/arm 3.4.29-20130418.1754-v-rm5? it seems to be unusefull on cubieboard.
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<rm> why not
<rm> you can have RAID1 of a SATA HDD and an USB one
<rm> or even RAID1 of SD card and an USB flash
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<hno> why not RAID5 on a USB hub full of USB flash sticks :)
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<jelly-home> the idea was probably to give an example that was useful, not an example of what was possible but silly
<jelly-home> a raid1 with write-bitmap is nice, enables simple offline backups. I do it on a desktop, have external disks that are connected once a week, synced up in 15 minutes, disconnected and stored again
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* hno is pretty sure someone have done such USB RAID-5....
<rm> yes
<rm> I think someone mailed me actually
<rm> and they have some ungodly expensive 5-drive USB enclosure
<rm> and asking why it was not detecting drives other than the 1st
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<rm> the answer was to enable SCSI Multi-LUN support in the .config
<hno> That's not what I meant. That's a useful configuration.
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<hno> there is quite many RAID enclusures these days with USB connection (and eSATA / firewire)
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<user_2> raid on usb... could be. me too i am going to do some recompilarion, hoping to doing to much errors :)
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<user_2> i guess cedarx is needed for: following http://romanrm.ru/en/a10/kernel it adsorbe 80MB that is a big quantity compare to total memory of 1GB
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<user_2> ah, here the infos http://linux-sunxi.org/CedarX
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<hno> user_2, cedarx, framebuffer & mali all reserve significant chunks of memory.
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<user_2> hno, yes, the wuestion is: what can i eliminate? my need is "web 2.0", it means youtube video, gnome-mplayer, 2D accelleration. No 3d game opengles are needed by me.
<hno> if you are not using opengles then you can disable mali.
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<user_2> ok, i can eliminate it from kernel recompilation, thanks.
<hno> but please note that if you are using a composing window manager then you need opengles.
<hno> it can also be disabled by kernel arguments.
<user_2> wat is a "composing window manager"?
<hno> gnome3/plasma/unity/...
<user_2> i use LXDE or XFCE4, nothing more complex.
<hno> one which uses OpenGL for the final layout, having applications draw their displays to virtual buffers instead of the FB directly.
<wooy> Hi, anyone here is running full disk encryption with cubie?
<hno> wooy, what about it? (not running it, but maybe can answer anyway)
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<user_2> someone know what option to be activated to enable the audio output on hdmi and also on 3.5'' jack?
<wooy> hno: completely encrypt sata drive. I am looking for tool recommendation and possible performance issues.
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<Thihi> I haven't had the time to try it out yet - is Cubieboard capable of 1080p playback?
<hno> wooy, works the same as on your desktop, with the only twist that /boot is your sdcard or nand. Can't comment on performance.
<Thihi> ssvb_, so yes
<ssvb_> Thihi: not perfect, not all files, needs specifically patched players with CedarX support, but yes
<Thihi> Yeah.
<user_2> i istalled vlc on cubieboard, but only black window, no video/audio play. i must kill vlc. instead gnome-mplayer works.
<user_2> btw, gnome-player cant go to full screen, the video stay on original size and dont scale.
<ssvb_> user_2: yes, for software decoded video, you would also need XV extension
<user_2> how to get XV extention?
<ssvb_> maybe I'll implement it in a day or two :)
<user_2> good, so stay around here .)
<ssvb_> have you already tried CedarX accelerated decoding?
<user_2> dudes, i run youtbe video and gnome-mplayer, but no audio came out from jack or hdmi... some ideas?
<user_2> ssvb_> have you already tried CedarX accelerated decoding? <--- i duno how to do
<ssvb_> user_2: this is relatively easy to install - http://linux-sunxi.org/VLC
<user_2> i saw that page, but it say no GUI, only CLI.
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<ssvb_> it this case you may prefer XBMC
<ssvb_> that's basically a GUI which takes over your whole system :)
<user_2> it is a dedicated distro?
<user_2> dedicated to multimedia, i mean
<ssvb_> it's a huge application
<ssvb_> it's allwinner-a10 port happens to bundle mali framebuffer libraries and a lot of other stuff
<user_2> I SEE IT HUST NOw inside apt-cache... i can istall and try it
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<ssvb_> well, you probably don't want a generic XBMC without cedarx patches
<ssvb_> here are some build instructions which work for debian - http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC
<user_2> let me see
<user_2> if i use a generic without cedarx, that is the problem? all the job will be done by cpu and there will be poor performances?
<ssvb_> yes, there will be abysmal performance without cedarx (much worse than mplayer)
<user_2> mm maybe i will isntall directly a XBMC image and see how it works.
<ssvb_> yes, that's the easiest way to try it
<user_2> ssvb_, wher ecan find one?
<user_2> here rhere are not http://cubieboard.org/download/
<ssvb_> hmm, that's an interesting question
<ssvb_> I have seen some people posting links the the images they made
<user_2> i read this "Pre-built application binaries of this port are not available so therefore you will need to compile XBMC yourself, at least until if and when the code makes it into the mainline XBMC upstream at http://xbmc.org" so it seems xbmc on cedarx is stull at the beginning :(
<ssvb_> well, it kinda works
<user_2> ssvb_, im not so cofniden with recompiling...
<ssvb_> the patches are of course not accepted by XBMC upstream, that's why the XBMC packaged for your distro is not going to work well
<user_2> anyway, now i prefere to focut to inderstnd how to make this mute cb to play audio on hdmi, s i can hear youtube at least
<ssvb_> regarding XBMC, it means that anyone can compile the package (it takes time though), and anyone can publish the binaries or the whole image
<user_2> yep
<ssvb_> this works for me :)
<user_2> did you are able to make xbmc vorks with cedarrx?
<ssvb_> yes, I compiled it and it works
<ssvb_> about your sound problem, you can check the log output from mplayer to see what kind of audio output it tries to use
<user_2> chech the log...
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<user_2> do you mean /var/log/syslog?
<user_2> or some else?
<ssvb_> when you run console version of mplayer, it should print log to the console
<user_2> if i run gmome-mplayer file.avi form command line it start, and on CLI i have some gtk.critical and gtk-warning message, but othig related to audio/sound.
<ssvb_> when you run some gui frontend for mplayer, the log must be available somewhere in the menu
<user_2> let me see the GUI interface menu...
<ssvb_> it would be easier to first experiment with CLI mplayer though
<user_2> CLI report gtk-critical and gtk-wanring related to size_allocate, wight: height and other but all is related to size of video, not to audio.
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<ssvb_> normal CLI mplayer should have nothing to do with gtk, how do you try to run it?
<user_2> i sorry, i dint undestood. let me do now.
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<user_2> several output. i suppose this is impoirtant: "reqeusted audio codec family MPG123 afm=mpg123 not avaiable"
<user_2> also this: ---> AO: pulse init failed: connecteion refused
<ssvb_> what happens if you add "-ao alsa" to the command line?
<user_2> wait im istaiing mpg123
<user_2> i added your option, but no audi the same, let me see the messages...
<ssvb_> it can't be the same, at least the messages must be different now :)
<user_2> several output. this message "reqeusted audio codec family MPG123 afm=mpg123 not avaiable" still present despite i istalled mpg123. i see alsofailed to openVDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: file not potesent
<user_2> openinr video decoder:ffmpeg libavcoded codec family
<ssvb_> I believe there is a lot more than just this in the log
<user_2> requested audio docec family mpg123 afm=mpg123 not avaiable
<user_2> enable it at compilation
<user_2> opening audii decoder ffmpeg ffmpeg/libavcodecaudio decoders
<ssvb_> please just pastebin the log somewhere
<user_2> mm u are right wait.
<user_2> maybe the user is not isude te right groups? maybe no device presentr in /dev?
<ssvb_> looks like it's mostly ok from the mplayer side, it uses ffmp3float codec to decode video, tries pulse and fallbacks to alsa
<ssvb_> alsa is supposedly fine, but I guess it might go to the wrong jack or just be muted
<ssvb_> can you run 'alsamixer' application as root?
<user_2> maybe i forgot to install something? audiomixer ? on my laptop i must push up the audio every time is start thre pc, becauser the audio is volume=0
<user_2> wait
<user_2> alsamixer ot istalled i go to istall
<user_2> sudo alsamixergui
<user_2> card: suni41-CODEC
<user_2> chip: codec Mixer
<user_2> master is at the top
<ssvb_> can you check if there is possibly any audio output on 3.5mm jack instead of hdmi?
<user_2> no audio came out from hearphone
<user_2> i get crazy!
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<user_2> i see there is not /dev/dsp
<ssvb_> have you checked http://linux-sunxi.org/Audio_Codec ?
<user_2> i go to see...
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<ssvb_> guess what, I don't have /dev/dsp on my desktop system either, while alsa is definitely there :)
<user_2> OK
<user_2> i have not /etc/asound.conf
<user_2> i have no command speaker-test
<user_2> i nstall alsa-utils now
<user_2> pastebin.com/ycLWg9Hh
<ssvb_> well, it's says that probably something else has grabbed the audio output ands does not let anyone in
<ssvb_> I wonder why mplayer did not complain about alsa
<user_2> me too
<user_2> wait
<user_2> pastebin.com/A87qNgzC
<user_2> i wonder maybe the user has not enough privilege to access to audio device?
<ssvb_> just first run all the tests as root
<user_2> ok
<user_2> i did sudo mplayer -ao alsa fine.avi but not audio came out...
<ssvb_> your first test is a speaker-test
<ssvb_> once it works, move on to mplayer
<user_2> speaker-test -twac -c2 run ok, but no audio came out:-(
<user_2> -twav i mean
<ssvb_> then it's not ok
<ssvb_> check whether it is using jack or hdmi
<user_2> yes .-)
<user_2> how to check?
<user_2> i mean, how to see if the device is used by a program?
<user_2> ssvb_, still there?
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