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!ls
<yome>
Hi everyone
<yome>
!ls who
<yome>
!explpm who
<yome>
!explpm software
<FourthDr>
morning
<FourthDr>
a though just occured to me....one you have installed an OS into the nand flash and you have everyting the way you want it.....how to you make an image from the nand?
<user_2>
i did and installation on nand. it is possible to "dump" te nand and reverse the image onto another cubieboard?
<FourthDr>
same question :-D
<user_2>
livesuit can push image on nand, maybe it can also copy from
<FourthDr>
maybe
<FourthDr>
never tried it
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<user_2>
livesuit run on wondows, at te moment i have not that OS at home. could someone try the test?
<FourthDr>
is there actually a full disto image for the nand available?
<FourthDr>
other than android or linaro which seems limited
<FourthDr>
be nice to have something that can dump from a booted sd to a flash drive
<FourthDr>
licesuit is kinda flakey
<FourthDr>
livesuite I mean
<FourthDr>
:-)
<FourthDr>
hard to get the cubie into the right mode, usually takes several tries
<FourthDr>
akward buttons
<FourthDr>
I think cubian is the closest so far
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<user_2>
FourthDr, i agree cubian is ok.
<user_2>
still raw, but a good first step
<user_2>
all in all, cubieboard is a "developement board", it is still not ready for brainless apple users :-)
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<Bushmills>
onboard flash seems pretty slow. reading about 9 MiB/s from it. an inserted SD-card gives me around 17. measured using hdparm, with governor set to "performance". that's normal?
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<user_2>
Bushmills, 9 MuB/s sound good.
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<rz2k>
Bushmills: onboard flash uses very poorly written allwinners block device emulation layer
<rz2k>
there is an experimental true mtd driver around
<Bushmills>
all right. so one reason less to install OS to onboard.
<rz2k>
I'm testing it on my olinuxino (still fighting with ECC), the guy who posted it uses different type of NAND than mine and he has 25-30MB\s
<rz2k>
also I believe that is bottlenecked somewhere in DMA and can be fixed
<rz2k>
s/is/it is/
<ibot>
rz2k meant: also I believe that it is bottlenecked somewhere in DMA and can be fixed
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<Bushmills>
i'm happy to hear that it's not a fluke with this board
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<rz2k>
its not the board
<rz2k>
its the linux-sunxi.org community :p
<rz2k>
you can try out new patches at our mailing list if you want
<rm>
I wish someone would figure out the Ethernet problem
<rm>
telling people "don't reboot it", is silly
<rz2k>
are you sure you not the only one with it?
<rz2k>
like your usb bug :p
<rm>
hmm which USB bug?
<rz2k>
the one where your usb-ether works really bad
<rz2k>
and you have oops on usb detach (iirc)
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<naquad>
rm, could you please build it? i really don't want to set up tool chain for arm and recompile kernel
* Yaku321
thinks about the usage of words, if someone would actually say ,,install the driver for the rtl8188" and in the process i would compile something i would propably be less scared as if a tutorial says ,,compiling something" initally, "compiling something triggers the thought ,,wtf, thats way over my head" by now, sry was just thinking that
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<mike_sun>
on debian raspberrypi works fine on cubie
<user_2>
i see all people recompile kerne on x86 using crosscompiling. despite the more time to wait, isnt better to compile on cubiebaord directly? (using sata disk for working directori to avoid I/O on flash/nand)
<rm>
why do you think it's "more time to wait"?
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<rm>
on a 3.6 GHz Quad-core Phenom II?
<user_2>
i suppose cubieboard has less "hose power" than a 4 ore x86.
<rm>
also not everyone has a SATA disk connected to a CB, I don't
<user_2>
i have istead.
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<rm>
also maybe you think cross-compiling involves some kind of emulation of ARM on x86?
<rm>
it doesn't
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<user_2>
rm, my idea is that if i work on a CB using sata disk for I/O i have to avoid moving data un and down cromm x86 to CB.
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<user_2>
so i can be "x86 independent" and work only on CB for a more "clear" table ion front of me (it is fill with caboel monitors, etc).
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<user_2>
full, cables.
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<user_2>
in trying some script, tey fail on x86 i dono why. if i work directly on CB it *should* be more direct, no tollchain, no this, no that.
<user_2>
at leat it is my hope.
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<rm>
yeah that's certainly one option
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<naquad>
its alive!!! 5 minutes with arch linux and it works. just compile.
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<Bushmills>
ah, i get it. the flashing blue LED with Cubian is the ip address in morse
<\\Mr_C\\>
well it depnds on how its programmed
<\\Mr_C\\>
can be for other things too
<Bushmills>
like running through tac
<Bushmills>
through rev, actually
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<Bushmills>
it's vanilla Cubian, as image, pulled from server today. wondered about the irregular flashing. then i noticed they came in groups of 5.
<Bushmills>
as i can read morse, albeit not as fast any longer as i once could, i made the link to numbers.
<Bushmills>
the flashing was too slow to recognize it as morse before
<Bushmills>
was more into figuring out how to ssh to it, then wondering about flashing blue LED :) port 36000 for ssh is a somewhat bizarre idea, i find.
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<buZz_>
nice, someone ported raspbian to cubieboard?
<buZz_>
or something?
<Bushmills>
it's like many other images a rather plain debian. about 200 packages installed. not a lot special found in it yet
<Bushmills>
sd card reading seem slower compared to some others.
<Bushmills>
image comes with a swap partition. doubtful how good an idea that is
<buZz_>
alright
<Bushmills>
some things a bit odd. as written before. sshd configured to listen to port 36000
<Bushmills>
as far i'm not horribly excited about it
<buZz_>
well the name is nice
<Bushmills>
but kernel has been compiled with nfs support. that doesn't seem to be common.
<Bushmills>
relatively recent too. just 10 security updates between cubian and current wheezy
<Bushmills>
seems there less custom stuff in it, like kernel, modules. which can be good. on others, installing stuff which depended on specific modules was sometimes failing because the custom kernel didn't provide those.
<Bushmills>
sure, one can build his own image. but i like to get an idea what pre-fabricated image could be suggested for download without causing too many complications.
<Bushmills>
ah, fewer governors supported by kernel. just performance and ondemand
<user_2>
buZz_, is not a port of rasbian: raspbian si a recompiled debian for ARMv6, cubian is a vanilla debina cor ARMv7.
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<Bushmills>
hm. no tun module.
<Bushmills>
not that vanilla
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<Bushmills>
it appears that none of the debian kernel images (omap, mx5, vexpress) is suited for the Allwinner A10. so it's down to compiling a kernel if one looks for the same set of module support as the stock debian kernels.
<Bushmills>
all bootable images i check out as far were lacking something. often something essential. no nfs, no autofs, now with cubian no tun.
<user_2>
Bushmills, i agree. me to i see different kernel for cubieboard but all of them lack somethin :(
<Bushmills>
oh well. somebody will surely make another image and offer it for download :) its kernel will then just be stripped of what he thinks isn't likely to ever get used.
<Bushmills>
that were just the headless images i looked at