#ruby-lang on 2014-03-02 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-02-24 17:12 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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01:16 <Alexis_Evo> Is there anyway to use an integer and then increment it at the same time? Kinda like array[i++] would in C?

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01:16 <Alexis_Evo> I actually can't remember if it's array[i++] or array[++i]

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01:16 <Alexis_Evo> but it should be equivalent to array[i]; i++;

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01:34 <tsou> Alexis_Evo: assignments have values

01:35 <tsou> Alexis_Evo: so you can do something like: k = [10,20,30]; k[i = 1];

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01:44 <Alexis_Evo> tsou: that returns the value after the assignment though, I'm looking for before :p

01:44 <Alexis_Evo> string = "hello"; pos = 0; string[pos += 1]; #=> "e"

01:44 <Alexis_Evo> should be "h"

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01:45 <tsou> ah, ok, so you want C's array[--i]

01:45 <Alexis_Evo> right

01:45 <Alexis_Evo> like I said, I can never remember which one is which, and it's been years since I've touched c :p

01:46 <tsou> btw, is there a reason why you don't want to do it in two separate statements besides trying to make your code harder to read? :P

01:46 <Alexis_Evo> I like terse code ok

01:46 <Alexis_Evo> also it ends up being three lines instead of one, as I have to return the first line

01:47 <Alexis_Evo> byte = self[@pos]; @pos += 1; return byte;

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01:47 <Alexis_Evo> vs return self[@pos += 1]

01:47 <Alexis_Evo> I could increment @pos, then do return self[@pos -= 1], but that's even less readable

01:47 <tsou> well, you could array[(i = 3) -1]

01:48 <tsou> but that's ugly :P

01:48 <Alexis_Evo> err yeah that, not -=

01:48 <tsou> i mean... array[(i += 1) - 1]

01:48 <Alexis_Evo> I guess I'll just leave it as three lines :(

01:49 <tsou> i don't see anything wrong with array[(i += 1) - 1] if you want an one-liner

01:49 <Alexis_Evo> hinders legibility too much -- I think most people are familiar with array[++i] syntax so if it existed in ruby it'd work great

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01:51 <tsou> Alexis_Evo: heh, sure, but on the other hand, the very fact that you weren't sure if you needed ++i or i++ should be a good-enough warning for your own code

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01:53 <Alexis_Evo> I guess :P

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03:23 <freedrull> wait can anyone release a new version of a gem? i don't see a link like 'add people to this gem' or anything...

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14:20 <imperator> good morning

14:21 <imperator> offtopic, but why do system headers include typedefs to structs that are nothing but a single member?

14:21 <imperator> why bother making it a struct?

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14:34 <Senjai> So Celluloid is officially :good-times:

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14:39 <imperator> but does it work on windows? ;)

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15:49 <Senjai> Probably

15:49 <Senjai> Not sure

15:49 <Senjai> Most likely

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22:12 <TTilus> i think emacs23 comes with ruby mode

22:12 <TTilus> just M-x ruby-mode<ret>

22:13 <TTilus> if your .rb files don't default to ruby-mode, you need to add (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.rb$" . ruby-mode)) to your ~/.emacs

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23:09 <R3g4z0> HELLO

23:09 <R3g4z0> hello

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23:09 <webgen> hi

23:09 <R3g4z0> I am new at irc

23:09 <R3g4z0> and I'm learning ruby

23:09 <webgen> same here

23:10 <R3g4z0> what is this about? learning? ???

23:10 <R3g4z0> that's nice

23:10 <webgen> its more like troublshooting i imagine

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23:10 <webgen> join channel #ruby, it is more active

23:10 <R3g4z0> what are you learning now?

23:11 <webgen> right now i am trying to setup text editor learn ruby and then rails

23:11 <R3g4z0> hummm

23:11 <R3g4z0> Well I m doing almost the same

23:12 <R3g4z0> I started with emacs

23:12 <webgen> hehe cool

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23:12 <webgen> i tried too but there was no support, I am almost gonna give up vim

23:12 * centrx recommends vim

23:12 <R3g4z0> what text editor are you using?

23:12 <webgen> trying out vim but I dont figure out a way to install addons yet...

23:12 <R3g4z0> humm

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23:12 <webgen> its retarded

23:12 <centrx> webgen, I don't use any addons myself

23:13 <centrx> webgen, What add-on are you looking for?

23:13 <R3g4z0> but there are some good emacs' videos on youtube

23:13 <webgen> centrx any simple addon, text coloring, at least

23:13 <centrx> webgen, Add "syntax on" to your .vimrc file

23:13 <R3g4z0> well I not using vim

23:13 <webgen> centrx, thats what I mean i have no idea where that file is :D

23:14 <centrx> webgen, You can create it in your home directory

23:14 <R3g4z0> what OS are you using?

23:14 <webgen> R3g4z0 i heard vim is better for ruby

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23:14 <webgen> R3g4z0 virtual lubuntu

23:14 <centrx> webgen, Here is my .vimrc file (commas are new lines): syntax on, set expandtab, set tabstop=2, set autoindent

23:15 <webgen> centrx, and this only works if you are working in the file with .rb extension ?

23:15 <R3g4z0> are you readig a book ?

23:16 <R3g4z0> or just getting the stuff from the internet?

23:16 <centrx> webgen, It works for any file type, using the extension to determine what type

23:16 <webgen> R3g4z0 not really just bless the kopimi lynda vids

23:16 <centrx> Syntax highlighting that is

23:16 <webgen> centrx ok i ll try and post results hehe thx

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23:22 <webgen> centrx how do i save file ? so far I learned how to :quit without saving :S

23:22 <centrx> :w saves a file

23:22 <centrx> (w for Write)

23:22 <centrx> :x or :wq will save and quit

23:22 <webgen> cool thx i saved it

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23:24 <webgen> centrx when I am trying to open a random file called 1, it says no syntax items defined for this buffer? :S

23:25 <centrx> webgen, Maybe you only have vim-tiny installed without syntax highlighting? (I am not especially familiar with Lubuntu)

23:25 <centrx> webgen, Try apt-get install vim

23:25 <centrx> webgen, That will install the full version of vim

23:26 <webgen> centrx thats the command i used to install vim :P

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23:26 <centrx> webgen, What does your .vimrc file look like?

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23:28 <webgen> centrx: syntax.on n set expandtab \n set tabstop

23:28 <webgen> set autoindent

23:28 <webgen> with spaces instead of \n

23:28 <centrx> Is that really a period between syntax and on ?

23:28 <webgen> yep its a period

23:28 <centrx> Use a space

23:29 <webgen> centrx, thanks, thats emberassing :D

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23:33 <webgen> centrx yep " looks centrx yep there is some movement hehe quote is purple and text within is red, do you have the same coloring?

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23:34 <centrx> Yes

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23:34 <webgen> centrx thanks dude! thats a good start xD

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