apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<postmodern> wasn't there a tool that attempted to automatically port ruby 1.8 -> 1.9 code?
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<imperator> is FileUtils#mode_to_s supposed to be public?
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<imperator> nm, they fixed it in 2.1
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<karamazov424> Any freelance rubyists out there?
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<Guest64266> Hello. I need some help. I couldn't find anywhere "how to add nokogiri to gemfile"?
<apeiros> Guest64266: open your Gemfile, add `gem 'nokogiri'`, run `bundle`, done.
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<Guest64266> The problem is there are many gemfiles, atleast "locate gemfile" shows several dozens. Which is the real one?
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<yorickpeterse> ...
<yorickpeterse> You're not understanding what a Gemfile is
<yorickpeterse> Guest64266: http://bundler.io/ read through this
<yorickpeterse> it's a project specific file that defines dependencies
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<Guest64266> You are very much correct. I don't understand much and so far everything I tried to do was in vain. Thanks for your help, I will procceed immersing myself in the unknown
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<yorickpeterse> isn't that what we do as programmers?
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<vlad_starkov> Question: Is it possible to make :method_missing method private?
<jhass> try it?
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<vlad_starkov> jhass: I tried and it seems :method_missing method can't be private
<vlad_starkov> jhass: I just though maybe I missed something
<jhass> >> class Foo; def method_missing(*); end; private :method_missing; end; Foo.new.whatever
<eval-in___> jhass => nil (https://eval.in/107502)
<jhass> seems to work, no?
<vlad_starkov> >> class Foo; def method_missing(*); end; private :method_missing; end; Foo.new.method_missing(:xyz)
<eval-in___> vlad_starkov => nil (https://eval.in/107503)
<vlad_starkov> >> class Foo; def method_missing(*); 12345; end; private :method_missing; end; Foo.new.method_missing(:xyz)
<eval-in___> vlad_starkov => 12345 (https://eval.in/107504)
<vlad_starkov> No, its not private.
<jhass> why would you explicitly call it anyway?
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<vlad_starkov> jhass: I'm just writing spec for my ActiveRecord Model and I defined :method_missing method there and want to spec it
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<jhass> I'd still test the behavior of the class in that case
<jhass> not the mechanism that achieves it
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<vlad_starkov> jhass: I'm writing specs for each method of the class
<jhass> so not calling method_missing explicitly
<ddd> > class Foo; def method_missing(*); end; private :method_missing; end; Foo.private_methods.include?(:method_missing)
<ddd> >> class Foo; def method_missing(*); end; private :method_missing; end; Foo.private_methods.include?(:method_missing)
<eval-in___> ddd => true (https://eval.in/107505)
<vlad_starkov> jhass: probably it can seems too much
<ddd> class Foo; end ; Foo.private_methods.include?(:method_missing)
<ddd> >> class Foo; end ; Foo.private_methods.include?(:method_missing)
<eval-in___> ddd => true (https://eval.in/107506)
<vlad_starkov> ok then
<ddd> as you see, method missing is already private. all you did was override it's definition
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<ddd> and just in case..
<ddd> >> class Bar ; end ; Bar.private_methods.include?(:method_missing)
<eval-in___> ddd => true (https://eval.in/107507)
<ddd> tada
<vlad_starkov> ddd: so is it special in Ruby that method_missing method is always available as public method even if you mark it as private method?
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<ddd> its not. private means its available to all instances of that class.
<|jemc|> vlad_starkov: it's calling method_missing because it can't find a method with the name "method_missing" when you try to call it
<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: Great!
<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: never thought that :)
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<|jemc|> um, nevermind I'm wrong
<|jemc|> I just tried it out
<|jemc|> >> class A; def method_missing(*args); p args; end; end; A.new.method_missing
<eval-in___> |jemc| => [] ... (https://eval.in/107523)
<|jemc|> args would be :method_missing if what I said were true
<|jemc|> oh, never mind
<ddd> method_missing comes from BasicObject and is defined as private to begin with. Foo < Object < BasicObject
<|jemc|> I am right
<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: ohh
<|jemc|> > class A; private; def method_missing(*args); p args; end; end; A.new.method_missing
<|jemc|> >> class A; private; def method_missing(*args); p args; end; end; A.new.method_missing
<eval-in___> |jemc| => [:method_missing] ... (https://eval.in/107525)
<|jemc|> forgot to make it private in my example
<|jemc|> so the first thing I said is true
<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: ok
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<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: but I always thought that ruby should check whether the method defined, and if not it raises NoMethodError, and if method defined it looks the permissions (public/protected/private) and either call the method (if permissions match) or raises NoMethodError in other case.
<|jemc|> vlad_starkov: if you replace "raises NoMethodError" with "calls method_missing, whose default implementation raises NoMethodError", that's pretty much true
<vlad_starkov> |jemc|: ok no I see it clear :)
<vlad_starkov> thanks guys
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<kith> how do i match everything between quotes with regex?
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<bougyman> do you care about escaped quotes?
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<bougyman> /"(.*+)"/ is a trivial (and broken) way
<kith> hmm
<kith> that one matches the "" too
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<bougyman> ah
<bougyman> so /"(..*+)"/
<bougyman> to have 'at least something' between the quotes
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<apeiros> o0
<apeiros> ..*+ seems a verbose way to say .+
<apeiros> @ bougyman
<apeiros> or is there a difference?
<bougyman> difference
<apeiros> which?
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<bougyman> woops
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<bougyman> i meant .*? vs .*
<apeiros> there actually is a difference
<bougyman> pry(main)> string = '"food"ball"';puts string.scan /"(.*)"/;puts string.scan /"(.*?)"/
<bougyman> food"ball
<bougyman> yeah, greedy vs non-greedy
<bougyman> food
<apeiros> I thought + made an already specified quantifier greedy, but that's not the case. it makes it possessive, which actually makes /"..*+"/ a broken regex which will never match
<bougyman> pre-coffee foul on the '+' vs '?'
<apeiros> >> '"foobar"'[/"(..*+)"/]
<eval-in___> apeiros => nil (https://eval.in/107545)
<bougyman> yes, .*+ would never match, in fact.
<apeiros> because . matches " too, and + forces it to not backtrace
<bougyman> string.match /(".*+")/
<bougyman> => nil
<bougyman> yep
<apeiros> anyway, ..*? --> .+?
<bougyman> well he wants at least one
<apeiros> (and there, there's no difference, I'm pretty sure)
<apeiros> yes, + is "one or more"
<bougyman> oh, right, .+?
<bougyman> none of these is a good way to match quoted stuff.
<apeiros> depends
<bougyman> if you know your data well enough, I suppose.
<apeiros> if you have no escape sequences, it's fine
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<apeiros> if you have escape sequences, you want /"(?:\\.|[^"\\])+"/
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<bougyman> huh?
<apeiros> >> '"foo\"bar"'[/"(?:\\.|[^"\\])+"/]
<eval-in___> apeiros => "\"foo\\\"bar\"" (https://eval.in/107547)
<apeiros> if you have more complex escape sequences, like \u0000, then it won't do, of course. this is only for \<char> style escapes.
<bougyman> it won't even work for that, apeiros
<bougyman> => "\"foot\\\"ball\"\"baz\\\""
<bougyman> [21] pry(main)> string.scan /"(?:\\.|[^"\\])+"/
<bougyman> => ["\"foot\\\"ball\""]
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<apeiros> that's the correct result for your string
<bougyman> ah, i forgot to close baz
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<joevandyk> is rubygems down for anyone?
<jhass> seems to be up
<joevandyk> jhass: you can install gems?
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<jhass> yup
<joevandyk> maybe this stupid hotel internet. curl -I https://rubygems.org/latest_specs.4.8.gz times out for me
<joevandyk> everyone else can download that file?
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<jhass> at least I can
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<ddfreyne> Rubyforge is shutting down at last
<ddfreyne> I forgot that site existed.
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<Nilium> I'm surprised it's managed to stay alive this long.
<ddfreyne> Yeah.
<ddfreyne> There's so many old Ruby sites out there.
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<yorickpeterse> The RAA stuck around pretty long too
<imperator> yah, i think they only shut it down last year
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<ddfreyne> I don't know whether I like its unofficial replacement, the Ruby Toolbox
<ddfreyne> Their popularity measurement is... broken
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<yorickpeterse> Don't use RT that much, usually it's a combination of RubyGems + Github
<yorickpeterse> (that I use)
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<imperator> speaking of toolbox...interesting comments on browsercms yesterday
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<yorickpeterse> browsercms?
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<imperator> yorickpeterse, cms for ruby
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<imperator> looks like they created a bunch of fake accounts and forks, and then used those accounts to star their own project, too
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<heavyhorse> lol
<heavyhorse> that sounds so desperate
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<yorickpeterse> heh
<yorickpeterse> gotta have that juicy internet karma
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<imperator> dunno why you would do that
<imperator> seems to me there are better ways to get attention
<imperator> like...advertising
<imperator> we used it a few years ago; it seemed decent
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<yorickpeterse> *facedesk*
<yorickpeterse> HOW WAS THAT NOT OBVIOUS?
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<Rich_Morin> I've been playing with using a router-like globbing syntax to navigate trees of arrays and lists - http://wiki.cfcl.com/Projects/Ruby/Tree_Globbing I'm wondering if anyone else has done anything similar.
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