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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> $ rubocop lib
<yorickpeterse> 162 files inspected, 4908 offenses detected
<yorickpeterse> ._.
<yorickpeterse> "Redundant `return` detected." haha fuck off
<yorickpeterse> I forgot this is why I'm not a fan of rubopedant
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like metric tools too much
<apeiros> IMO an indicator at best
<yorickpeterse> I used it in the past but had to tweak like 15 settings to make it bearable
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<apeiros> I'd also require a whitelist option
<yorickpeterse> also some of the rules it enforce are purely arbitrary
<apeiros> i.e. "yes, this one is ugly, but it has been seen, don't mention it again"
<tsou> what's wrong with a tool like rubocop to mention redundant returns?
<yorickpeterse> e.g. "put _ between every 3 digits" <- like what the fuck?
<yorickpeterse> tsou: define redundant. Technically they are not required, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't include them
<yorickpeterse> I happen to be from the school of "I prefer explicit returns because it's easier to grok"
<apeiros> ah, yeah, I do that. 10_000_000 is easier to read than 10000000
<yorickpeterse> I know you can tweak a lot but ugh
<maloik> I didn't know you could do that until a couple weeks ago
<tsou> yorickpeterse: that's the difference between 'redundant' and 'forbidden/illegal/disallowed' in this case
<tsou> so i don't get the fuss..
<maloik> definately something I'm going to try to use more often in the future
<yorickpeterse> tsou: if it's a pedantic it shouldn't be there by default
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<yorickpeterse> But again that's me, I hate tools that enforce made up rules out of the box
<yorickpeterse> also
<tsou> i thought it was more of a guide to check how much you conform to the usual style
<yorickpeterse> Fuck the MRI profiler
<yorickpeterse> fuck it for not letting me redirect output
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<tsou> but i dunno, i've never used it, pretty much for the annoyances it's giving you right now :P
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<eam> yorickpeterse: agreed re: explicit returns. I actually really like style enforcement (necessary, coming from Perl), I just don't like rubocop's choices
<eam> a lot of the suggested style appears to remove information
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<yorickpeterse> well yeah, enforcing things upon a certain level when it comes to style is good
<yorickpeterse> and often needed
<yorickpeterse> In fact, I'm writing some analysis atm
<yorickpeterse> but it's very specific to this one project
<Xzyx987X> this is probably the most trivial question I've ever asked here, but I'd like to know if ruby has a way of writing two line if/else statement. I really like how one like if statements make my code more clean, compact, and readable, and it's getting so that I cringe at the wasted space when I have to spend 5 lines on a single if/else
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<Xzyx987X> *one line
<toretore> if ... then
<yorickpeterse> if foo then bar end
<yorickpeterse> foo if bar
<yorickpeterse> errr wait missed the else bit
<yorickpeterse> if foo then bar else baz end
<yorickpeterse> or
<yorickpeterse> foo ? bar : baz
<Xzyx987X> I said two line. if I stick it on one line the code gets too long and won't fit on the screen
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<yorickpeterse> well, you can break the ternary
<yorickpeterse> foo ?
<tsou> Xzyx987X: you can break a line of code in ruby, but strictly two lines for your example seems bad-looking, of course i have no idea what your code looks like
<yorickpeterse> bar : baz
<toretore> you mean in your quest for fewer loc you're making the code less readable? imagine that..
<yorickpeterse> However, I would just write it out
<yorickpeterse> if foo
<yorickpeterse> else
<yorickpeterse> end
<yorickpeterse> etc
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<Xzyx987X> would if ... then ... \n else ... end work?
<yorickpeterse> don't do that, that looks hideous
<toretore> just write the damn lines
<yorickpeterse> also you'd have to escape the newline with a \
<Xzyx987X> yea... I dunno, it still seems less bad than the alternatives...
<yorickpeterse> I think at least
<Xzyx987X> toretore: fine, be that way ;P
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<toretore> you can use `then` in place of a newline
<toretore> as in `if foo then bar\nelse ...`
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<Xzyx987X> I dunno, I tried "if foo then bar\nelse ..." to see how it would look at my code and I don't like it. it's difficult to read when the most important part of the statement gets squished in at the end
<Xzyx987X> the nice thing about the one line if is that the actual important code that does stuff is always first
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<tsou> Xzyx987X: you do realize that the example code you pasted perfectly fits in one line, so suggestions for styling your actual code cannot really come from foo/bar/baz, right?
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<MedicalJaneParis> http://pastebin.com/PryGRicy - trying to reuse route definitions across padrino/sinatra, but using instance_eval only allows me to go one level deep. this feels like a code smell but hoping someone has an idea on how to do it
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<imperator> yo
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<centrx> Ahoy
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<zanion_> So I want to begin adding models to a GLI scaffolded application. Should I create a new Models directory in root or create it in lib?
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<fowl> zanion, #rubyonrails
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<zanion_> its not a rails app but I get the point. I'll try to find a more relevant irc
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<lianj> is there a ruby http client that can drop the socket connection after reading the response headers and if they don't match his request accept header?
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<drbrain> lianj: wouldn't that mean the server is broken?
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<lianj> lots of scumbag servers out there
<lianj> like almost all
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<drbrain> I don't know of one
<drbrain> (a client)
<lianj> ok thanks anyway. what about size limits?
<drbrain> size limits on reading?
<lianj> yes
<drbrain> Net::HTTP allows you to implement it yourself using block mode
<drbrain> let me find the example…
<lianj> yea i remember seeing that some time back. just curious if it really closes the socket then or still finishes
<lianj> drbrain: looks good. thanks!
<drbrain> if you http.stop after reading as many bytes as you want the socket will get closed
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<sdegutis> What's the new hotness for testing Ruby code?
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<centrx> "new hotness"?
<centrx> Is this a brand of coffee?
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<sdegutis> Just trying to be hip.
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<sdegutis> What are the newer options for testing Ruby code?
<centrx> sdegutis, Have you tried Minitest?
<sdegutis> Hmm not that I know of.
<sdegutis> I'm looking for something non-intrusive and lightweight, i.e. not RSpec. I'll look into Minitest.
<centrx> Yeah, sounds like minitest is what you want
<centrx> It's very hot
<centrx> Like the sun
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<sdegutis> :|
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<drbrain> which part of the sun?
<centrx> The hottest part
<centrx> The hotosphere
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<MedicalJaneParis> is there a way to tell if an active record objectt was loaded through an association?
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<centrx> MedicalJaneParis, Try #rubyonrails
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<MedicalJaneParis> will do, thanks
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