00:21 <DocScrutinizer05> fsck KDE! http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/29/plasma-desktopqh1874.png

01:11 <wpwrak> lot sof tabs, lots of ads ? :)

01:13 <DocScrutinizer05> memleaking, kinda

01:14 <DocScrutinizer05> particularly all browsers seem to never free memory before you quit all cilds / forked instances

01:15 <DocScrutinizer05> and flash prolly worst of them all

01:15 <DocScrutinizer05> or maybe JS, dunno

01:16 <DocScrutinizer05> seems JS stuff stays in mem until all browser instances close

01:16 <whitequark> iceweasel?

01:16 <DocScrutinizer05> nope

01:16 <whitequark> which?

01:16 <DocScrutinizer05> konqueror mainly, though very same issue with FF

01:17 <whitequark> oh

01:17 <whitequark> yeah

01:17 <whitequark> they do this

01:17 <whitequark> chrome does this less

01:18 <DocScrutinizer05> FF even worse, it seems to never stop eating mem even for a simple page with only a few JS elements that update every minute

01:18 <whitequark> yes

01:18 <whitequark> aka why I don't use FF

01:18 <whitequark> chrome eats about a gig and stays there, which is fine to me, I have 10

01:18 <whitequark> well, chromium.

01:18 <DocScrutinizer05> 8 here

01:22 <wpwrak> i wish browsers would simply stop whatever creeps and crawls in a tab if the tab isn't selected

01:23 <whitequark> wpwrak: they do so, to a degree

01:26 <wpwrak> an army of chromium-browser processes running at a few % CPU each tells me that a higher degree would be nice ...

01:26 <whitequark> indeed

01:26 <wpwrak> i mean, i have four cores but i didn't get them for such nonsense ..

01:27 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/29/plasma-desktopBw1874.png http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/29/plasma-desktopot1874.png

01:29 <DocScrutinizer05> n8

02:01 <arhuaco> I stopped using Flash sometime ago. (Main computer).

02:07 <arhuaco> BTW, sometime ago I tried to write some code to restrict the amount of memory Chrome could use but I failed. LD_PRELOAD is seen as security risk so it's not easy to do it with Chromium, I think it forks and discards the environment (not 100% sure). I gave up. https://github.com/arhuaco/ram-is-mine

02:09 <whitequark> arhuaco: use cgroups.

02:09 <whitequark> cgroups are the only reliable method to restrict memory usage on linux

02:11 <arhuaco> whitequark: Good. I'll take a look when I need this again (laptop).

15:56 <kyak> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nanosmart/talkase-the-must-have-accessory-for-a-mobile-lifes

15:56 <kyak> seen it?

15:58 <kyak> actually, it even looks interesting as the main phone :)

16:05 <pcercuei> can it send SMS?

16:08 <kyak> by itself - probably not.. good point

19:48 <DocScrutinizer05> OMG that second-phone crappy sandwich again. age old silly idea

19:49 <DocScrutinizer05> I think I've first seen this sort of thing some 6 years ago

21:22 <wpwrak> bwahaha. this is from the people who say it's safer to store things in the cloud than locally: http://recode.net/2014/10/29/maker-of-retailer-apple-pay-competitor-has-already-been-hacked/