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<wpwrak> wow. how many snakes had to give their oil for this one ? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1052775620/wemagin-smart-usb-drive
<kristianpaul> lol
<kristianpaul> :omg:
<larsc> wpwrak: It seems the project has probably also caused shortage in natrual fertilizers
<viric> what is this thing?
<viric> "scratch the hidden key2?
<viric> "?
<wpwrak> "secreto ergo security" -- "i secrete therefore i'm secure"
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<paul_boddie> "W IS MILITARY GRADE" Surely it should be a tank driving over that thing, not a mere car.
<valhalla> that project backhistory! think of the CHILDREN!!!1ONE!!!
<paul_boddie> I also like the way they ride the current celebrity nudes bandwagon by having an "ACTOR" amongst the "EVANGETLISTS" (sic).
<wpwrak> "military grade" = the oil comes from camouflaged snakes
<wpwrak> (actor) "amongst" ? she's the only one :) and the video starts with "protecting women". leave no stereotype unserviced. i'm sure they're also have a cure for communism and islamism somewhere ;-)
<valhalla> it's also recyclable!
<paul_boddie> Under "PATENT PENDING WORLDWIDE"... "*ANNOYMOUS* REGISTRATION AND ACCESS"
<valhalla> private browser: google vs W ---> google?
<wpwrak> so much technobabble in today's world. who could possibly get all those names right, and does it matter anyway ?
<paul_boddie> I mean, nice idea and everything, but with all that snake oil and "PATENT PENDING", "Gates Foundation", presented in the classic Kickstarter campaign fashion...
<wpwrak> i find it hard to tell if there's anything real below all the fuzz
<wpwrak> and some of the features sound dubious. not as in "certainly impossible" but as in "unlikely and/or needing a lot of work"
<wpwrak> and there must be some weasel in the mix, too, not just snakes. because the unlimited cloud space is of course impossible. but if they can rate-limit, then if becomes quite feasible
<wpwrak> or maybe it's "unlimited storage, limited retrieval" ;-)
<paul_boddie> /dev/null solves yet another problem. ;-)
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<mth> it looks like what they're selling is actually a VPN subscription
<mth> but packaged like a USB device so they can put it on Kickstarter
<mth> I don't know if it's clear to potential backers that this thing won't work at all when the included subscription year is over
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<paul_boddie> I am also a bit skeptical about the "works on Windows" part as if the special USB stick communicates magically with the user's fingertips...
<paul_boddie> ...without any of the data touching the sides of the dirty vessel as it heads out over the network.
<mth> apparently "unlimited" is 4TB; the creator must have worked at a telco ;)
<kyak> wow..
<mth> in that timeline, what is Sep 2013 actually saying...?
<mth> a fact they don't mention that the privacy it provides depends entirely on trusting their browser and their VPN
<paul_boddie> Sep 2013 says that they had "10 programmers on board, dedicated to creating ... malware for USB firmware" ;-)
<kyak> just don't google "steve kim"
<kyak> really, don't
<paul_boddie> I imagine it's not an uncommon name.
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<mth> the answer to the question about USB firmware attacks isn't very satisfying either... "Hopefully by the time we're ready to ship, it’s resolved."
<whitequark> morons
<mth> while probably, if the hardware allows the firmware to be reflashed over USB, there is no way they can remedy that after shipping
<mth> unless the reflashing software is in the part that can be flashed, then they could "seal" it by uploading non-upgradable firmware
<mth> and hope it is bug free ;)
<mth> in any case, if something on the host machine wants to attack their browser, there are easier ways than targeting the USB stick's firmware
<mth> hmm, isn't the grandmother using a MacBook Air?
<valhalla1> also, what if my grandmother was one of the eniac ladies? (no, she wasn't: right age, wrong continent, but still...)
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<paul_boddie> On the topic of future crowdfunding, this looks promising: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/micro_desktop/news/Interface_Status_Report/
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<astr> hmm yep, looking forward to it
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