00:06 <nicksydney> has anyone come across schematics for CSR based bluetooth USB dongle ? i've looked around on Google can't find any

00:06 <nicksydney> even on CSR website they have none

00:27 <eintopf> why CSR? I read last time that these usb dongles are blacklisted by btusb driver?

00:27 <eintopf> I need a BTLE usb dongle, my choice was http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le

00:28 <eintopf> kind of "Broadcom BCM20702" "The adapter’s USB VID is 0x0a5c (Broadcom) and PID 0x21e8."

00:28 <eintopf> yes, but a little expensive

00:39 <nicksydney> eintopf: nope it's not blacklisted i've tried it and it worked fine ..tried it for kernel 3.10

00:40 <eintopf> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c#L131

00:41 <eintopf> okay maybe only this one

00:41 <eintopf> { USB_DEVICE(0x0a12, 0x0001), .driver_info = BTUSB_CSR },

00:41 <eintopf> it's in usb_device_id blacklist_table

00:41 <eintopf> which PID and VID do you have?

00:42 <nicksydney> 0a12:0001

00:42 <eintopf> :D

00:42 <nicksydney> the ignore_csr is not set

00:42 <nicksydney> so it will pass through without any problem

00:42 <eintopf> mhh

00:42 <nicksydney> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/bluetooth/btusb.c#L1560

00:43 <eintopf> I am little afraid about the blacklist array...

00:43 <nicksydney> if you set that then yes it not work

00:43 <eintopf> ah, ok

00:43 <nicksydney> eintopf: have tested it with BlueZ 5 and it works fine

00:43 <nicksydney> even in Android :)

00:43 <nicksydney> of course in Android you need to use BlueZ not Bluedroid

00:44 <eintopf> can it also run as sniffer etc? No constraints what CSR firmware abstract?

00:44 <eintopf> I mean

00:45 <eintopf> I don't know how I can translate this into english

00:45 <nicksydney> don't know about sniffer haven't tried it...all i've tried is scanning and pairing...the one that I have is not 4.0 BLE capable

00:45 <eintopf> ah, ok

00:45 <nicksydney> the 4.0 BLE is different chip

00:45 <eintopf> ok

00:45 <eintopf> but have the same PID and VID

00:45 <eintopf> crazy

00:46 <eintopf> okay, maybe some revision registers

00:46 <eintopf> PID, VID - cost money or?

00:48 <nicksydney> not sure what you mean cost money ?

00:49 <eintopf> qi-hardware has a registered VID

00:49 <eintopf> at evil intel usb company

00:50 <eintopf> 0x20b7

00:50 <eintopf> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/USB_product_ID_assignments

00:51 <nicksydney> eintopf: that you need to check with the Master ... wpwrak or DocScrutinizer05

00:51 <DocScrutinizer05> huh?

00:52 <DocScrutinizer05> OM had some errr project offering USB VID/PID for everybody

00:53 <DocScrutinizer05> sorry, can't find a link

00:53 <eintopf> doesn't matter

00:54 <eintopf> thanks

00:54 <DocScrutinizer05> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs

00:57 <eintopf> oh "barebox bootloader USB DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) Mode" - I know this one :-)

00:58 <DocScrutinizer05> (teaching to fish: google "openmoko usb pid vid" )

00:59 <eintopf> oh GoodFet, I also know this one

00:59 <DocScrutinizer05> give a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and feed him for rest of his life

00:59 <eintopf> DocScrutinizer05: yea, next time I need to use google

01:00 <eintopf> So I can do some open hardware usb project and register it at this wiki page?

01:00 <DocScrutinizer05> yes

01:00 <DocScrutinizer05> basically

01:01 <eintopf> okay, I don't want to create a usb rocket launcher or usb bomb.

01:01 <eintopf> I more for a sentence in GPL that GPL software can't use in military devices

01:02 <eintopf> I can't life to programming software which kills people

01:04 <eintopf> I mean... who can life with that?

01:04 <whitequark> nope, zeroth freedom of FOSS is that software can be used for any purpose

01:04 <eintopf> yea, but killing people is anti freedom

01:04 <eintopf> I know what you mean...

01:05 <DocScrutinizer05> lol! http://hackaday.com/2013/10/22/usb-implementers-forum-says-no-to-open-source/

01:05 <whitequark> Douglas Crockford's JSlint license, which says "this software can't be used for evil" has, in fact, caused quite a few conflicts

01:05 <whitequark> ohh

01:05 <whitequark> read this post: http://wonko.com/post/jsmin-isnt-welcome-on-google-code

01:05 <whitequark> Douglas: That's an interesting point. Also about once a year, I get a letter from a lawyer, every year a different lawyer, at a company--I don't want to embarrass the company by saying their name, so I'll just say their initials--IBM...

01:06 <whitequark> [laughter]

01:06 <whitequark> ...saying that they want to use something I wrote. Because I put this on everything I write, now. They want to use something that I wrote in something that they wrote, and they were pretty sure they weren't going to use it for evil, but they couldn't say for sure about their customers. So could I give them a special license for that?

01:06 <whitequark> Of course. So I wrote back--this happened literally two weeks ago--"I give permission for IBM, its customers, partners, and minions, to use JSLint for evil."

01:06 <whitequark> [laughter and applause]

01:06 <whitequark> And the attorney wrote back and said: "Thanks very much, Douglas!"

01:06 <DocScrutinizer05> huh? killing people? military. how did we get there now?

01:06 <eintopf> DocScrutinizer05: sorry, my minds jumping around.

01:08 <DocScrutinizer05> seems I'm not only suffering Alzheimer and autism, but now also ADHS

01:09 <eintopf> relax :-)

01:10 <DocScrutinizer05> http://www.freenode.org/channel_guidelines.shtml >>Don't be caught by support burnout.<< - they warned me. didn't listen

01:13 <eintopf> oh

01:16 <eintopf> thanks for your support :)

01:17 <eintopf> if that helps a little bit, when we met us one day I will give you a free beer/wodka/cola/water/club mate/flora mate/...

01:18 <eintopf> but dom perignon ;)

09:48 <wpwrak> oh, the OM VID space is actually being used. nice.

12:34 <viric> irungentoo: can a x86_64 toxic load a data file written by armv7l?

12:34 <viric> irungentoo: can a x86_64 toxic load a data file written by armv7l?

15:42 <kristianpaul> OpenPET webpage got redesign http://openpet.lbl.gov/

16:18 <whitequark> huuuuh http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/last-german-state-to-do-away-with-university-tuition-fees/story-e6frgcjx-1227066213629?nk=e238a7fa81b6c07f4225ac306c5ff3c7

16:23 <wpwrak> darn commies

16:59 <viric> I don't like any messaging system for internet

17:30 <DocScrutinizer05> ((tuition fees)) well, not someting completely new. They started that BS some 8? years ago, always been considered a hiccup, I'm glad now the last fool in gvmt appreciates it been a mistake

22:21 <viric> wpwrak: kristianpaul: the party is starting http://addenda-et-corrigenda.blogspot.com/2014/10/todo-sobre-las-enmiendas-del-drae2014.html

22:51 <wpwrak> viric: sounds a tad silly. besides, don't you have a civil war scheduled for november ?