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<mth>
wolfspraul: projects.qi-hardware.com has a new ssh host key, is that an expected result of the maintenance?
<mth>
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
<ysionnea1>
I think he said he was going to migrate on a new machine
<ysionnea1>
so I guess it's normal the key changed
<ysionnea1>
16:08 < wolfspraul> wpwrak: I'm setting up a new machine
<mth>
yes, but I want to check if that is indeed the case and not a well-timed attack
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<DocScrutinizer05>
which sort of attack do you expect?
<DocScrutinizer05>
did you exchange fingerprint of previous RSA key with wolfspraul in a secure channel?
<whitequark>
it's a good assumption to make that no one MITM's *all* SSH traffic *all* the time
<wolfspraul>
mth: yes new host key - I didn't copy over the old one
<DocScrutinizer05>
nobody ever does ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
the server key is the machine's boiler plate
<wolfspraul>
and I think this would also trigger a warning, but this time that the IP address changed
<wolfspraul>
so warning-wise it's roughly the same
<DocScrutinizer05>
oooh the IP changed? then it would be pretty silly to copy the key, eh?
<wolfspraul>
why not, depends on what the goal is
<wolfspraul>
anyway I did not copy it over
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah
<wolfspraul>
new machine, new IP, new host key
<DocScrutinizer05>
usually you get IP/key tuples, e.g. in known-hosts
<DocScrutinizer05>
changing IP and keeping the key is basically meaningless
<whitequark>
known-hosts lists both hostname and IP
<whitequark>
and I would argue that a machine is tied to hostname, not IP
<DocScrutinizer05>
hmmm
<DocScrutinizer05>
isn't the key meant to defeat e.g. DNS-spoofing
<DocScrutinizer05>
well, whatever. Nobody ever copies the key
<DocScrutinizer05>
;-)
<whitequark>
sure, it works to defeat DNS spoofing
<DocScrutinizer05>
real fun: http://privatepaste.com/f5b8b39849 trying to get a reservation mail past SPAM blocker: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender "info@hotelmardefrente.com": domain has no valid mail exchangers
<DocScrutinizer05>
Por favor realize su reserva llamando al teléfono 956 437025 o por correo electrónico info@hotelmardefrente.com
<DocScrutinizer05>
suuuure
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<DocScrutinizer05>
no surprise they need a spam blocker fortified like fort knox
<DocScrutinizer05>
stuff gets annoying when you want to sleep there in 4 days
<DocScrutinizer05>
wolfspraul: do you still reside in China?
<DocScrutinizer05>
contracting you as escrow/proxy might be cheaper than flying there from Germany