DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #qi-hardware to: Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs and http://irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware
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<roh> yes and no
<roh> the galileo seems cc-by-sa
<roh> but thats just like a 'reference design' for their quark soc
<roh> so the soc itself isnt free, but the schems/source is.
<roh> so far i am quite impressed. lets wait for pricing and availability ;)
<roh> especially the formfactor and the mini-pci-e slot seems nice. i would have some ideas for that
<hellekin> so the SoC design is free, but the chip isn't
<roh> well.. its still intel. so you get chips you can buy, specs, some documentation and foss drivers.
<roh> they will for sure not give out their chipmaking masks and asic designs
<hellekin> so it's mostly to steal ARM's business, no much news for hardware freedom. Same game, different players.
<roh> jup
<roh> but as long nobody gives me funding to have and run chipmaking fabs or rent some, i think i am happy with socs with proper docs
<hellekin> all you need is $1 from each person on Earth roh. Don't desperate ;o)
<roh> too bad only a small part of those even have access to clean water and eletric power they can afford
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<hellekin> I've heard there's a plan to make everyone equal, by burning all resources, polluting all drinkable water, and killing everyone.
<roh> hehe
<hellekin> rms mentioned i.MX6 as a potentially acceptable platform for running 100% free software, saying that onyle the video decoder remains to be reverse engineered.
<hellekin> s/onyle/only/
<qi-bot> hellekin meant: "rms mentioned i.MX6 as a potentially acceptable platform for running 100% free software, saying that only the video decoder remains to be reverse engineered."
<hellekin> it uses an ARM Cortex9 dual or quad proc
<hellekin> uff. These gizmos get tinier every time I have a look. Next time I get a bug to enter my nose and lobotomize me to connect to Facebook and Google Maps.
<hellekin> well, time to sleep. TTYL
<roh> hellekin: i dont usually take rms that seriously when deciding which hw to use ;9
<roh> gn8
<roh> wandboard would be imx6
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<sanderr> Pfff, finally time to blow off some steam.
<sanderr> (free from work today)
<sanderr> And time to catch up on reading about anelok. :)
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<wpwrak> very good :)
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<wpwrak> fedex delivered the remaining toys. now anelok is unstoppable :)
<ysionneau> hehe
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<kristianpaul> wee :)
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: btw having the ben wpan modules is mandatory to get anelok to work? or anelok will have its own 208.15.14 link?
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<whitequark> so... one hand of USG created tor, the other one tries to break it?
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<wpwrak> kristianpaul: use of 802.15.4 is optional. if you want to use it for HID and such, you'll need an atusb (or a yet to be designed atusb successor)
<viric> "Terrorist with tor client installed"
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<kristianpaul> viric: ;)
<kristianpaul> remenber that they protect us
<viric> us meaning U.S.?
<viric> they protect very few people. The rest are at risk :)
<kristianpaul> nop U.S
<kristianpaul> indeed (few)
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<wpwrak> more news from the USSR ? (United States Secure Republic)
* eintopf took his nose into this channel and heard something about ieee802.15.4
<viric> heard? in an irc channel? with the nose??
<eintopf> yea
<viric> quite impressive.
<wpwrak> eintopf: yeah, i'll use 802.15.4 for communication between a password safe and a PC (e.g., emulating a keyboard)
<wpwrak> eintopf: the PC-side hardware will be or course atusb :) (or an updated variant of it)
<eintopf> ah, ok
<eintopf> wpwrak: I try to work on the mac/6lowpan rework rfc...
<eintopf> but I don't get it running
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<eintopf> and I think I don't have/get time for this to make a whole rework of this
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<eintopf> :(
<wpwrak> well, sometimes it helps to take a break, have a few beers, than have a look at it again a couple of days later
<wpwrak> s/than/then/
<qi-bot> wpwrak meant: "well, sometimes it helps to take a break, have a few beers, then have a look at it again a couple of days later"
<eintopf> I don't drink beer
<eintopf> got some issue in a do { ... } while (read_seqretry(....))
<eintopf> first I need to understand what this means :)
<wpwrak> well, wine actually works better for this than beer :)
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