19:34 <DocScrutinizer05> adapter dongles, on USB, OHYEAH! GREAT! will boost sales to replace phones with broken USB jack

19:35 <amatus> does nobody remember when HTC did that?

19:35 <DocScrutinizer05> and "analog signal over USB-C" makes my toe nails curl. Could somebody please shoot the USB cert members with owl shit?

19:38 <DocScrutinizer05> >>In the pursuit of vanity, Apple and Lenovo are going to take something simple and change it into something needlessly complicated. Manufacturers will be forced to choose between shipping headphones with a 3.5mm jack and no DAC, or including a DAC and then choosing between Lighting and Type-C, not to even mention Type-C without a DAC.<<

19:39 <DocScrutinizer05> they clearly forgot audio streaming via ethernet

19:40 <Sicelo> most of the phones don't have ethernet?

19:40 <DocScrutinizer05> could give us a whole new class of connectors, not compatible to anything at all, for low voltage ethernet

19:40 <Sicelo> lol

19:41 <DocScrutinizer05> new plugs, new jacks, new cables and adaptrers, new peripherals, what an economic bonanza

19:42 <Sicelo> maybe someone in future will make a bluetooth-only phone .. wireless charging

19:42 <DocScrutinizer05> they're almost there already

19:42 <DocScrutinizer05> BT audio is shit tbh

19:43 <DocScrutinizer05> A2DP is crap by spec

19:43 <Sicelo> then such phone will have no connector at all anywhere on its body

19:45 <amatus> Sicelo: don't give them ideas!

19:45 <DocScrutinizer05> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bluetooth_profiles#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29

19:47 <DocScrutinizer05> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)

19:48 <DocScrutinizer05> >>It was designed to obtain a reasonably good audio quality at medium bit rates<<

19:48 <amatus> except it sounds like you're inside a tin can

19:49 <Sicelo> haha

19:49 <DocScrutinizer05> of course "reasonably good" actually means "not everybody will complain, so we can sell stuff using it"