<pixelherodev>
A generic "programming language rankings" tracker. So impressive.
<waleee-cl>
more impressive to never have heard of/seen it actually
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<Xavi92>
Hi, I am experimenting with Zig on the PlayStation 1 (MIPS I is unofficially supported thanks to a patch), but zig complains about mixed ABIs. I have tried different abi values for mips-freestanding- with no success. Any pointers? https://bpa.st/raw/N4YA
<ifreund>
it looks like the issue is caused by something you are linking with
<Xavi92>
ifreund: I have a C library with some assembly files, and whereas I could insert the C source files into the `zig build-exe` command, I did not find a better way to insert the assembled assembly files rather than archiving them
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<ifreund>
llvm11 is out
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<bfredl>
yay
<bfredl>
not in arch yet smh
<ifreund>
slackers
<ifreund>
it's been out for a whole 8 hours
<bfredl>
they should have prepared from the RC's
<bfredl>
so just a single rebuild and CI test and then shipit
<bfredl>
i would into arch-testing if i was not in a zoom meeting r n :P
<earnestly>
11 is in staging
<bfredl>
how much other stuff is there?
<bfredl>
in staging i mean
<bfredl>
"Warning: Do not enable the staging repositories for any reason. Your system will unquestionably break after performing an update. This repository is only meant for backend developer use."
<bfredl>
sounds like a challenge
<earnestly>
It's basically a place for rebuilds to take place
<earnestly>
Typically relinking anything that needs it, in some specific order
<bfredl>
sounds fun
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<bfredl>
`compiler_rt.so.51.66.656 not found
<bfredl>
"bash": failed to load binary
<ikskuh>
<bfredl> so just a single rebuild and CI test and then shipit
<ikskuh>
8 hours sounds like a good time for clang to build and pass CI :D
<bfredl>
ok. so in the break of the ai safety meeting :P
<ifreund>
earnestly: to be clear I was joking about the slacking, it'll probably be a week or two till we get a void package
<bfredl>
lolol worst case i delete some warez from my nvme to make space, and build it myself tomorrow.
<fengb>
Why wasn’t it available yesterday??
<bfredl>
or two yesterdays ago
<bfredl>
or three
<bfredl>
(and inductively)
<earnestly>
ifreund: Oh don't worry about me, you can joke about anything and I'd understand :p
<g-w1>
I am on arch. If I upgrade my packages and llvm upgrades to 11, then will zig building break?
<bfredl>
i am gonna fix all ASAN/UBSAN and clang-static in neovim b4 anyone notice them existing :]
<earnestly>
g-w1: Hopefully the packagers are aware enough to distribute the new llvm with new relinked packages that depend on it
<g-w1>
Doesn't zig use llvm 10 though? Will I have to have 2 versions of llvm?
<bfredl>
hmm zig is already prepared for llvm 11 right? using comptime/c++ macros.
<ifreund>
g-w1: there's already an llvm11 branch on the zig repo
<ifreund>
I assume it will be merged shortly
<g-w1>
ahh. That makes sense.
<fengb>
There’s a separate branch yeah. Master will stop working until Zig merges/releases in a couple weeks
<bfredl>
zig 0.7 in a couple of weeks?
<bfredl>
yay
<g-w1>
I guess this would be a good time to be using nixos to manage all the dependency hell :P
<fengb>
I think the target is always 2 weeks after LLVM
<bfredl>
hahaha i had to install nixos, just to build/use raptorjit
<fengb>
This cycle Zig had to delay because LLVM got pushed multiple times
<bfredl>
a luajit fork with some tracess inspection
<ifreund>
26.10.2020 is the current target for 0.7.0
<earnestly>
nixos doesn't manage dependencies, that's the point
<bfredl>
nixos just does nixos
<bfredl>
like. gentoo is not a distro. it is just a collection of handy LFS build scripts :D
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<earnestly>
I mean, nixos keeps things isolated in such a way so that it doesn't have to deal with these problems
<earnestly>
It's the throwing-your-hands-up approach to solving the problem of distributed package management
<g-w1>
I have a laptop with gentoo on it and its just soo high maitnence.
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<FireFox317>
andrewrk, llvm 11 finally released :party:
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<pixelherodev>
I'll try to get get LLVM 11 + Zig in my gentoo overlay today
<bfredl>
i just gave up on python in that case. and made a separate pipenv for each of my madnessess
<bfredl>
before, i could use one tensorflow version for everything. sounds crazy now right
<ryuukk_>
i try to port my game engine in D, storing some configuration to then open a window with GLFW, looking to store window title
<ryuukk_>
well not D, but from C++ > D > zig, i'm trying out languages
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<earnestly>
(I wish I could find an old article which argued for the destruction of the "string type" (instead, arrays) but I can never google hard enough to get at it)