<redj>
this is what I ran: ./build -j9 x86_64-linux-musl
<redj>
sorry for not asking a proper question... is anyone aware of some issue with bootstrap?
<redj>
this is master 42f01b333
<redj>
Linux 5.8.4-artix1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT x86_64 GNU/Linux
<redj>
out/zig-x86_64-linux-musl/bin/zig: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped
<redj>
not a dynamic executable
<redj>
the "not stripped" is surprising me as this is supposed to be the release configuration
<redj>
I see c581efa0c was pushed 4-5 hours ago... llvm11 and updated zig... nice! I will try that..
<redj>
trying native
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<redj>
and it works! it took a little over 2 hours but I got zig! :D
<redj>
fresh zig :)
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<daurnimator>
redj: 2 hours is a while; that was just solving compilation issues?
<redj>
daurnimator: that was just running the build script from zig-bootstrap.. aka the compilation time
<redj>
how long it tool to get a working zig-x86_64-linux-musl-native zig binary :)
<andrewrk>
it includes building llvm, clang, and lld twice, so 2 hours sounds about right
<redj>
yes
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<ikskuh>
andrewrk: nice, you closed #130 :O
<ikskuh>
i think interface.zig is already close-to-awesome
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<ifreund>
tdeo: right now I'm thinking we should just require explicit type annotations of gloabal variables involved in recursive deps for stage1
<ifreund>
stage2 can have the better type inference
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<andrewrk>
ifreund, they tricked us with that opaque{} thing, now they tryna take our struct files away from us :P
<ifreund>
it was a trap!
<ifreund>
what is it, like 4am where you are?
<andrewrk>
yes
<andrewrk>
I've been... not handling release month very well
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<andrewrk>
pushed a little too hard last month
<ifreund>
yeah, I could tell you were burning out a little on 6250
<ikskuh>
andrewrk, go to bed!
<andrewrk>
good idea
<ifreund>
and now release stress as well, remember that your long term health is much more important for the project than any small details for this release
<ikskuh>
^=
<andrewrk>
true. I'll be ok, I'll take it easy
<ikskuh>
says the man up at 4 am
<ifreund>
well i was up to 3 last night, I can't judge
<andrewrk>
in my defense I am playing monster train and watching anime
<ifreund>
sounds good for the soul
<ikskuh>
okay, that's a good thing
<ikskuh>
Oh man, i feel bad for countering CodeHz :(
<ifreund>
on the opaque(u32) proposal?
<ikskuh>
yeah
<ikskuh>
it's not opaque if we back it with an integer
<ifreund>
yeah I feel kinda bad too but it's just not a good idea
<ikskuh>
also: what ABI rules to apply? they even made the example why their code is a bad idea :D
<ifreund>
yeah, what they want is totally orthagonal to opaque types
<ifreund>
they want distinct types
<ifreund>
or something
<ifreund>
which I would also be in favor of if done right
<ikskuh>
yeah, cloning an integer to be distinct would be awesome
<ikskuh>
and enforce something like @as() or @intCast on them
<ikskuh>
or just arithmetic types
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<ask6155>
Hello! I wanted to static link a c library with zig. Do I just do -llibx.a at the end?
<ifreund>
ikskuh: good point on #6615, I'm starting to really like the idea
<ifreund>
ask6155: with #6250 I think you can just pass the library to build-exe along with your root source file
<ifreund>
zig build-exe foo.zig libx.a
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<ikskuh>
ask6155: andrew told me that it's correct to link static libs as object files (if you have them locally in your repo)
<ask6155>
How do I import the header file? c has "x.h" and <x.h> How do I tell zig with header file to include?
<ikskuh>
ask6155: zig only knows <x.h>
<ikskuh>
you have to add your include path manually
<ask6155>
How do I do that?
<ifreund>
-I
<ask6155>
so I add -Ipath at the end of the zig command?
<ifreund>
yes
<ask6155>
okay thanks!
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<ikskuh>
ifreund: yeah, i also like this proposal very much
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<tundrax>
Is there a way to set function argument as optional?
<ikskuh>
so that you can omit it?
<ikskuh>
no
<ikskuh>
but you can pass optionals:
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<tundrax>
so `.{ }` is a tuple? there is no mention of tuples in docs
<ifreund>
yeah, the docs are rather lacking on tuples
<redj>
hi all, how would you differentiate between the user running a zig binary and that same binary being run via $() for using the output in a variable for example?
<earnestly>
Is this a shell question? ;D
<ifreund>
redj: File.isTty()?
<redj>
ifreund: that should be it...
<redj>
earnestly, ifreund: thanks, will try
<earnestly>
Yeah the only way is to check if stdin is attached to a tty
<ifreund>
tundrax: the tuple .{a,b,c} is like a struct { .@"0" = a, .@"1" = b, .@"2" = c, } that you can iterate over in a for loop
<g-w1>
thats what ls uses to print stuff line by line if ur in a shell script but all together if not
<ifreund>
g-w1: that's what File.istTty() calls...
<g-w1>
oh
<ifreund>
more relevant may be File.supportsAnsiEscapeCodes()
<g-w1>
cool
<tundrax>
ifreund thanks, that's what i was looking for
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<ifreund>
no problem
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<g-w1>
I am getting a lot of undefined references to memcpy and memset when I try to link a zig library to a file in assembly that includes _start. It is not a compile time error, but a link time error. I thought all zig libraries were statically linked, so shouldn't this not be a problem?
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<g-w1>
Since zig ships with libc, shouldn't memcpy be in zig's libc. I am on arch linux.
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<scientes>
g-w1, llvm requires certain symbols (such as memcpy) to build anything, so those are linked to every binary
<scientes>
sounds like the library has not been linked
<scientes>
anyways, you need to include more details
<scientes>
about how you are building these things
<g-w1>
ok
<g-w1>
heres my assembly. the important thing is that it has extern square https://paste.rs/Ft1
<g-w1>
and my main.zig is just this export fn square(a: i64) i64 { return a * a; }
<g-w1>
i just use nasm to build the assembly and zig build to build the zig to a lib
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<g-w1>
ld to link them together
<scientes>
it will probably fix it if you add a zig_panic function or build with --release-fast
<scientes>
I think its the debug code that is pulling in those symbols
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<scientes>
but otherwise, I am struggling to be a proper support person because I know a decent amount about zig 0.6.0, the pride of ownership just isn't there anymore
<g-w1>
Ok. I still don't understand why the debug code cant be statically linked or those symbols cant be statically linked. well thanks anyways.
<g-w1>
ill try --release-fast
<g-w1>
it worked! thanks
<scientes>
g-w1, feel free to ask more questions as you have them
<g-w1>
cool thanks. I am writing a compiler in rust, but want to write the standard library in zig, just to learn it.
<g-w1>
ill probably start working on the zig compiler after I feel done with mine.
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<ifreund>
g-w1: got a link?
<kristoff_it>
does anybody know of a simple way of causing a stderr write to fail?
<g-w1>
github.com/g-w1/ezc
<g-w1>
ifreund
<ifreund>
kristoff_it: maybe pipe stderr to something and break the pipe?
<ifreund>
just off the top of my head
<ifreund>
g-w1: heh, haven't seen [] for comments before
<g-w1>
yeah. i think imma change it to {} so i can use arrays
<ifreund>
I also appreciate the usage of periods and commas to make things flow like english
<ifreund>
do you have a use case for this language or is it just to learn/for fun?
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<g-w1>
Just to learn about compilers.
<ifreund>
nice
<g-w1>
I don't see a way to print a u8 to the terminal not as a number, but a character
<ifreund>
{c}
<ifreund>
see the doc comment for std.fmt.format
<g-w1>
oh. ok. I was trying to read the docs for std.debug.print
<g-w1>
thanks
<ifreund>
no problem!
<nikki93>
anyone try using llvm c api from zig? :o
<ifreund>
nikki93: we have a wrapper for llvm that is used by the self hosted parts of the compiler. Have you seen that?
<nikki93>
might play around with making a language
<Piraty>
congrats on LWN mention
<marler8997_>
is Rocknest on here? I wanted to ask some clarifying questions on his proposal without littering the github comments too much
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<kristoff_it>
Piraty, thanks :D
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<nikki93>
wonder if u could express a weird comptime ssa with zig struct literals
<nikki93>
like each "member" is just result1 result2 and so on
<nikki93>
and you reflect on it and unroll eval code
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<g-w1>
what is the best local development setup for the compiler. Should I have 2 repos, one ziglang/zig and one g-w1/zig? I feel like that wouold be inneficient. Or just one and merge it with the compiler whenever a new pr gets merged. (I dont know if you can auto do that on github)? What are you doing.
<ifreund>
just one local repo with two remotes
<ifreund>
I call the ziglang/zig remote "upstream" and my fork "origin"
<g-w1>
oh. Im not that good at git so ill have to figure it out :). Thanks
<ikskuh>
ifreund: i don't want to talk about to active working copies :D
<ifreund>
do you do that? :P
<ikskuh>
no :D
<ifreund>
good
<ikskuh>
but i heard that people use that :D
<g-w1>
so you git pull from upstream and git push from origin?
<g-w1>
so you git pull from upstream and git push to origin?
<ifreund>
g-w1: yes, the workflow is usually git checkout master, git pull upstream master, git checkout -b my-new-feature, git commit, git push origin my-new-feature
<g-w1>
ok. i started reading that book. I don't understand why people don't reccomend it from the start. it's very good
<ifreund>
knowing how it works makes using it much more intuitive imo
<ifreund>
I've only read that one chapter tbh, the man pages are fine for the rest
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<u0jQx9gPyrYg>
i changed my struct to use [32]u8 instead of u256 and now everything works as intended. thanks for pointing out the cause of my trouble. <3
<pixelherodev>
:)
<redj>
andrewrk: I'm wondering if I should have posted tese PRs against llvm11 branch instead of master.... sorry, should I change it? this would apply to the 3 PRs I just posted: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/pull/6629 <-- links to the other 2 in there
<andrewrk>
redj, it looks like your branch is based on the llvm11 branch, so yes you should then make the PR against the matching branch