00:12 <asheesh> It is pretty nuts, honestly, frigginglorious1, I agree.

00:12 <asheesh> Mostly in great ways, but still, nuts.

00:14 <frigginglorious1> asheesh: god as my witness, i will have a functioning app packaged by the end of this next week!

00:20 <asheesh> !!!

00:20 <asheesh> Well if you're that motivated, definitely feel free to ask me for help.

00:20 <asheesh> AFK a little bit for now.

00:21 <frigginglorious1> asheesh: you did enough in motivating me to get out and start speaking about cool stuff, but i will keep that in mind :D

05:02 <frigginglorious_> asheesh: i had project building in SS, but i moved to working in meteor directly. Now im having an NPM error while building in SS: npm ERR! Failed at the fibers@1.0.8 install script.

05:03 <frigginglorious_> fibers seems to be important. but sandstorm doesnt like it :(

07:57 <asheesh> frigginglorious: I think your problem is that .meteor/local needs to not be shared into vagrant-spk, because it contains state from your main OS. I'm not fully sure, though.

08:00 <frigginglorious> asheesh: hey, you’re still up :P i actually ended up ssh into the vagrant-spk box and installing g++ compiler

08:01 <frigginglorious> but apparently i shoulda been using meteor-spk? idk im working it all out.

08:03 <asheesh> vagrant-spk for Meteor is great.

08:03 <asheesh> If you happen to use Linux as your day-to-day OS, then meteor-spk can work for you instead.

08:04 <asheesh> I personally use vagrant-spk for everything that I can get away with, since I like the concept of a .sandstorm/ directory.

08:04 <asheesh> Even though I also use Linux as my main OS.

08:04 <asheesh> I'm going to fall asleep in a sec, though.

08:05 <frigginglorious> at home i have OSx and ubuntu laptops running side-by-side with synergy to share a mouse n keyboard

08:05 <asheesh> Nice.

08:05 <frigginglorious> no prob, good to know i can work at it in vagrant-spk still :D

08:05 <asheesh> Did you manage to fix your npm ERR! problem, then?

08:06 <frigginglorious> yeah, i guess the fibers package needed g++

08:06 <asheesh> Interesting; I guess that makes some sense; I guess we should include that in the vagrant-spk base box, then.

08:06 <frigginglorious> which i thought was strange.

08:06 <asheesh> AFK!

08:45 <frigginglorious> so the meteor project runs fine locally. i can even compile a .spk. but when i test it with vagrant-spk or upload teh .spk to my server, i get an error

08:47 <frigginglorious> well, my .js console just spits out “failed to load resource” eventually, but otherwise the iframe just loads the spinner

09:29 <frigginglorious> “failed to load respons”, rather

11:58 <Zertrin> I've seen the tweet about Owntracks and saw some IRC lines recently about it not being available on Android yet. Just would like to know where it is possible to follow the progress for making it available for Android (didn't find issues about android at mnutt's github nor at the upstram repo), and at the same time express that I would volonteer to beta test when it will be coming.

15:26 <zarvox> asheesh: I prefer the base box not including much at all and app devs installing things that they or their dependencies require with apt in setup.sh, on the grounds that 1) it makes dependencies more explicit, which is better for longer-term maintenance, 2) it's less initial (and subsequent, to stay up-to-date) download, and .debs are cacheable, and 3) once we add something to the base image, we can virt

15:26 <zarvox> ually never remove it without breaking the ecosystem of .sandstorm directories

15:27 <zarvox> if you want to add installing g++ to the meteor stack's setup.sh, feel free, but the base image doesn't seem like the right place for it

16:40 <dwrensha> zarvox: do you have any guides for directory structure for a vagrant-spk app that doesn't need to inlcude any source code?

16:40 <dwrensha> for gitweb, I ended up with https://github.com/dwrensha/gitweb-sandstorm

16:41 <dwrensha> but it seems weird to have an almost empty top level directory

16:43 <dwrensha> to be more precise, "doesn't need to make source modifications to the upstream app, so only needs config and initialization code"

16:45 <frigginglorious> Zertrin: are you planning on building something off of it? For friends to track eachother or something? or just want to know where your phones going?

16:45 <frigginglorious> oh he asked that hours ago

16:48 <frigginglorious> dwrensha: IDK bout that, but I think i’m going to put a basic repo together for meteor, for peoeple who haven’t devved in it before. Guide others past the newbie potholes i dug myself into last night.

16:48 <Zertrin> but I'm still there

16:49 <Zertrin> for now that would be only for me

16:53 <frigginglorious> Zertrin: so your app would connect directly to your grain and update location info for you there? and you could presumably do actionable things with the created info from the grain? I guess that would be kind of neat.

16:58 <Zertrin> yeah, well even if I've quickly seen the diagram on the README, I'm not really sure how everythings works together. But I was expecting that my app would log my position regularly, and communicate the information to the grain as soon as there is Internet-availability (my phone is set up to connect only on wifi, I only activate 3G/4G from time to time, but for the sake of testing Owntrack, I could activate mobile data during the test)

16:59 <Zertrin> I'm self-hosting Sandstorm by the way, and not on the standard HTTPS port (not 443)

16:59 <Zertrin> (xxxx.sandcats.io:1234)

20:52 <dwrensha> https://github.com/jparyani/ipython/pull/9

21:24 <zarvox> dwrensha: gitweb-sandstorm's layout seems perfectly reasonable to me, in the sense that you're just adding some setup scripts and confs for what is already in the apt repos.

21:25 <dwrensha> zarvox: how does https://github.com/dwrensha/ipython look to you?

21:25 <zarvox> It's not so different from, say, a repo containing just a README and a Dockerfile

21:26 <zarvox> Again, layout seems fine. A little weird that your sandstorm-files.list includes a cluster of apt.conf.d stuff.

21:27 <gwillen> hmm, this is kind of tragic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11467747 -- but I assume Davros is not impacted, even though it is owncloud-compatible, due to not using the actual owncloud server?

21:30 <zarvox> Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's an ownCloud feature that Davros doesn't bother with.

22:15 <Guest60362> Dear community, I am a user on ghost blog. Is there any way I could upload the theme for ghost blog on sandstorm.io?