asheesh changed the topic of #sandstorm to: Welcome to #sandstorm: home of all things sandstorm.io. Say hi! | Channel glossary: "i,i" means "I have no point, I just want to say". b == thumbs up. | Public logs at https://botbot.me/freenode/sandstorm/ & http://logbot.g0v.tw/channel/sandstorm/today
<Daemoen> asheesh: yes, i am one in the same with my twitter handle :)
<Daemoen> and yes, im in SF at the office right now, live in SJ
<Daemoen> asheesh: but hey, some of us like garfield, and were possibly entertained by the show! don't forget the lasagna XD
<asheesh> http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/ for context on talking to myself a bunch : D
<asheesh> Neat! I'm in SF right now; office is in Palo Alto.
<Daemoen> asheesh: ahh, so you do the reverse commute
<Daemoen> lucky you
<asheesh> Hard to say exactly how lucky I am!
<Daemoen> lol
<Daemoen> just started work at a new company monday, its the first time ive been at an office in a looong while. most of my past jobs have been WFH based (for about 4-5 years now)
<Daemoen> so, given that xwiki does not recommend using the prepackaged version in 'production', how does sandstorm recommend things when you need a separate database, etc ?
<asheesh> If you're going to use XWiki for an internal wiki, I personally believe bundling the DB into the grain is going to be fine.
* Daemoen nods
<Daemoen> hopefully, in the next week or two ill start spending some time playing with xwiki and sandstorm and working with both teams to do my own little contributions to things XD
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<kentonv> asheesh, you made the install script default to a dev server when running as non-root. Please undo that.
<kentonv> a dev server is actually not even useful if not root
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<digitalcircuit> New Sandstorm videos, awesome. Gotta help get the viewcount past the single digits :)
<frigginglorious> Is the “sandstorm development server” install option pretty much meant ONLY for local dev?
<frigginglorious> is there ever a time when you’d use it publicly?
<frigginglorious> or is it basically just the version used in vagrant-spk?
<kentonv> frigginglorious: in all honesty, install path #2 is not so much "dev server" as it is "manually prompt me to choose every option"
<kentonv> frigginglorious: you definitely would never want to enable dev accounts on a public server... but that's just one of the options, actually
<dwrensha> if you choose (1), do you even get an option to say "no" to sandcats?
<kentonv> dwrensha: I think so
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<frigginglorious> dwrensha: it did not prompt me to register with sandcats
<kentonv> frigginglorious: that's path 2
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<kentonv> asheesh: Uh apparently I'm stupid and didn't realize that path 1 did not actually work with -u before you disabled it. So that explains why you did that. But now I'm really confused because that means -u only gives you the option to install a dev server but dev servers do not work without root.
<frigginglorious> sweet lord, the issue with image uploading in wikimedia was fixed in an update!
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<frigginglorious> dwrensha: and some changes in a few other files. but yeah its awesome :D
<frigginglorious> havent seen this before. when trying to instal apps to a new server i spun up
<frigginglorious> Failed to install app
<frigginglorious> remote exception: open: Permission denied; name = /var/sandstorm/apps/efbc8d5c9586acc919ccbeca1cd18f2e/sandstorm-manifest
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<frigginglorious> and when uploading an spk that works on another server! Upload failed: 500 Internal Server Error
<frigginglorious> Unpacking SPK failed; is it valid?
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<sknebel> https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/cjv3p2a970vrm729x9x0v54k0nff6x6s2xcgwvgpuzhgk56wum5h doesn't say anything about owntracks not working with android (but only mentions iOS), that IMHO should be spelled out more clearly
<sknebel> I'd file an issue, but I'm not sure what's the best place for it :/
<asheesh> Hi sknebel
<asheesh> (1) Sorry, I thought mnutt__ had added a comment to that effect.
<sknebel> I saw you talking about it here, that's why I noticed while looking at the page
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<kentonv> asheesh: hilariously, bash expands `local FOO={bar,baz}` to `local FOO=bar FOO=baz` which is equivalent to `local FOO=baz`
<kentonv> dwrensha: you should use $@ instead of $1
<kentonv> {are,not} is being expanded exactly as expected
<dwrensha> would that make the example even more confusing?
<kentonv> no, it would show that bash is doing the expected thing there. :P
<dwrensha> I was hoping to maximize the surprise
<kentonv> haha
<kentonv> fair enough
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<sknebel> asheesh: thanks!
<sknebel> for the future, Is there an easy way from the app market to find the repo the package is build from? in the owntracks-case, the market page links to the upstream repo, so I didn't find any sandstorm-related files in there
<sknebel> if I had found the right repo I would have sent a PR myself
<kentonv> sknebel: Hmm, the links are supposed to go to the package repo. mnutt_, why does owntracks' git link point to upstream?
<dwrensha> I think the "report an issue" link goes to `codeUrl` https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/blob/v0.158/src/sandstorm/package.capnp#L297
<dwrensha> the documentation there could probably be improved to emphasize that it should not be the upstream repo
<kentonv> dwrensha: if we detect it's a github URL, then it goes directly to github issues, otherwise it is a mailto:
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<mnutt_> I wasn't thinking of that when I set the codeUrl, next release will point to my repo. Worst case, I end up having to resubmit some bugs upstream.
<mnutt_> does the changelog show up anywhere?
<dwrensha> not that I know of. The app reviewer might see it before approving, but I don't know of a way to see it when install/updating.
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<mnutt_> I started putting commit shas in the changelog, it could be nice to expose that at some point
<mnutt_> though I suppose I could just use git tags matching the release numbers as well
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<ocdtrekkie> I'm sad because I used to be able to use HERE Maps entirely without registering myself with any personal information. And now to update my offline maps they want me to register.
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<frigginglorious1> meteor is straight-up nuts
<pdurbin> frigginglorious1: how so?
<frigginglorious1> pdurbin: just how everything works! its neat
<frigginglorious1> pdurbin: but i'm not used to server-side js. idk why working in the same language almost seems more confusing :P
<pdurbin> "just works" sounds pretty good to me :)
<frigginglorious1> i did a bunch of reading and looking at varius tutorials
<frigginglorious1> but it didnt click till i saw this simple app https://gist.github.com/nachiket-p/2964422
<frigginglorious1> i think im gonna try to modify it and include sandstorm-accounts data