<kentonv>
you should stay up a couple minutes while I update testrock
<kentonv>
the post-app-install... _thing_ is ridiculous.
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<kentonv>
wtf meteor is soooooooooooooooooo slow right now. What usually takes two seconds has taken like 5 minutes. This is worrying -- what outside server is our build process depending on?
<kentonv>
seems to be npm
<kentonv>
ok, testrock is FINALLY updated
<kentonv>
paulproteus if you're still up go install an app. :P
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<paulproteus>
kentonv: On testrock! OK!
<paulproteus>
kentonv: OH WOW AMAZING
<kentonv>
:D
<jadewang_>
^_^
<paulproteus>
We still need some :hover reactivity of the app icons IMHO.
<paulproteus>
I was thinking opacity 0.9 by default and 1.0 on hover.
<paulproteus>
Not totally sure though.
<paulproteus>
I can submit a pull request for that.
<kentonv>
let's wait for nena input... I think what we have is good enough for launch.
<paulproteus>
I kinda want a neynah +1 -1 on it before doing so.
<paulproteus>
Yeah, exactly.
<paulproteus>
I admit I love how the Install & upload & restore buttons react now on :hover.
<paulproteus>
"admit" because I made them do that, I realize.
<kentonv>
I think we've now restyled everything except the install page
<kentonv>
and that page mostly gets skipped for new users
<kentonv>
oh and the grain buttons, I guess
<paulproteus>
Yeah. It's slightly disorienting that install gets skipped, but hey, why not I guess.
<paulproteus>
Gosh can I say how amazing this is.
<geofft>
ok, if you install Ghost, then write a blog post, then click publish
<geofft>
the little popup goes "Published! <a>View Post</a>"
<geofft>
are the instructions actually incomplete? they seem to be sufficient when they do load
<geofft>
(complete enough for anyone who knows what a DNS is, at least)
<kentonv>
I received an incomplete version at one point, but just now I managed to get complete instructions
<ocdtrekkie>
That is a cool install flow.
<kentonv>
yeah it turns out CSS animations are a bit too easy. Never tried one before but it took like three minutes to figure out.
<geofft>
oh that animation is adorable.
<geofft>
(partly 'cause I installed MediaGoblin and it involved the mascot, to be fair.)
<ocdtrekkie>
It still prompts if not from Sandstorm.io, I take it?
<geofft>
is it expected that I can't send invitation emails for new users to my Ghost instance?
<kentonv>
ocdtrekkie: yeah. But soon we're going to redo the prompt so that you'll actually want to look at it (it will tell you about the author's PGP-verified identity), so then we won't skip it anymore for anyone.
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<kentonv>
geofft: is this with an in-app thing or using the sandstorm sharing dialog?
<geofft>
with an in-app thing
<geofft>
can I not delegate sharing more granularly than "me at this grain" with the sharing link?
<kentonv>
yeah, probably won't work, the UI element ought to be disabled
<geofft>
(it's not obvious what access I am giving)
<kentonv>
no, it's the full grain. If there's no permission drop-down then it's usually "all my permissions".
<geofft>
oh, I apparently haven't yet gotten to an app that does this
<kentonv>
etherpad
<geofft>
it'd be nice if the widget said that
<geofft>
instead of just "access the grain" on the second tab, and nothing at all on the first
<kentonv>
and groovebasin, and I think gitweb, and wordpress, and some others
<geofft>
will real users see that word before or should it be explained?
<geofft>
(or used in some fashion in the UI, like on the MRU list)
<kentonv>
geofft: ehh, no one wants to read explanations. I think users will figure out the meaning pretty quick.
<kentonv>
I've never had anyone ask me "what is a grain?", but lots and lots of people have told me "users won't know what a grain is". :P
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<geofft>
hahaha
<ocdtrekkie>
kentonv and zarvox: #791 needs to be applied to the new about page.
<kentonv>
ocdtrekkie: I tested it in IE11, looked fine. :/
<ocdtrekkie>
Yes, but it looked fine in IE11 before too.
<ocdtrekkie>
Screenshot is on #791.
<kentonv>
wtf
<kentonv>
why would the rendering *regress* in Edge?
<ocdtrekkie>
New browser, new problems.
<kentonv>
do I need Windows 10 to test Edge?
<ocdtrekkie>
Yes, or a test VM from modern.ie
<ocdtrekkie>
zarvox downloaded it earlier.
<kentonv>
yeah they're like five gigabytes
<ocdtrekkie>
Can't believe I didn't catch #797 myself.
<ocdtrekkie>
The IE test VMs are actually full Windows installs, you can do a lot with them, I think.
<geofft>
I only noticed when Chrome did not like me filing #796...
<geofft>
is it intentional that I can downgrade my plan to the free plan and keep all my grains?
<ocdtrekkie>
I assume if everything is working right, it should limit your ability to make new ones while you're outside the limit of your plan or something similar.
<geofft>
it does
<geofft>
I can keep my 8 existing grains but I can't add a 9th
<kentonv>
geofft: if you go over the limit enough, you'll find you can't open your grains
<kentonv>
we will eventually refuse to let you downgrade, but only once we've implemented a "delete my whole account" option so that people have some way to end payment
<geofft>
reasonable!
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<dwrensha>
I love the new install animation!
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<paulproteus>
Can I just say, looking at the # of server installs & auto-updating servers, being on Hacker News is great.
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<dwrensha>
jparyani: Lychee won't let me upload a 3.1MB photo.
<dwrensha>
nor a 1.5 MB photo
<dwrensha>
From the grain log: "2015/08/29 21:55:10 [error] 71#0: *12 client intended to send too large body: 1484607 bytes, client: 127.0.0.1, server: localhost, request: "POST /php/api.php HTTP/1.1", host: "sandstorm-8c2jslm90rta96gma6ow.dwrensha.ws"
<dwrensha>
I'm guessing the nginx config needs adjustment.
<dwrensha>
(I think the default uplaod limit is 1MB, which agrees with the behavior I'm seeing.)
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