00:58 <ocdtrekkie> Is there a statistical possibility the new app market will be officially live by Sept 2nd?

01:00 <kentonv> ocdtrekkie: highly likely, why?

01:16 <ocdtrekkie> kentonv : Doing a talk, want to show it.

01:28 <kentonv> ocdtrekkie: awesome. Yes, the whole new everything should be ready by then.

01:31 <ocdtrekkie> Cool. It's a five-minute lightning thing, so I have less time to explain all the reasons it's really cool, so I'm hoping I can show :enough: that people will go on and poke around themselves.

02:53 <ocdtrekkie> When I tried to spk dev, it looks like it tried to stick the entire contents of my screenshot.png in the terminal window for some reason.

03:12 <ocdtrekkie> kentonv: EtherDraw shipped to the app index.

03:13 <kentonv> ocdtrekkie: nice screenshot

03:14 <ocdtrekkie> Same one as before. :P

03:14 <ocdtrekkie> I just wonder if spk dev doesn't like the size or something.

03:14 <ocdtrekkie> It kinda exploded.

03:15 <ocdtrekkie> Since I was making no changes to code on this, I just packed without dev'ing it, since it's existing filelist was fine, and it tested cleanly.

03:16 <kentonv> eh?

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> When I did spk dev on this, it seemed to paste the manifest into terminal. Including the entire screenshot as text.

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> Kinda like this:

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> AAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABA

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> AAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFK

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> ABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIg

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> IFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAAAIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiAgVoAAAAAAAAAAAA

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> AIgIFKABAAAAAAAAAAAAICJQgAYAAAAAAAAAAACAiEABGgAAAAAAAAAAAAAiQCT6\/2KAGt10+kuWAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC")}],"changeLog":{"defaultText":"### 0.1.1\n- Updated Sandstorm manifest\n\n### 0.1\n- Initial version\n"}}}})

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> stack: 0x551570 0x5505b5

03:18 <ocdtrekkie> Updating file list.

03:19 <ocdtrekkie> It did not actually let me use the app in dev mode.

03:19 <kentonv> ohhh

03:19 <kentonv> yeah that's a bug fixed in master but not in the release build

03:19 <ocdtrekkie> ok

03:20 <kentonv> it's because your screenshot is big enough that the manifest is too large to fit on a command-line

03:20 <kentonv> we changed the spk dev code to pass the manifest in a temp file rather than on the command line

03:20 <kentonv> (dwrensha fixed that)

03:21 <ocdtrekkie> Okay, well, it didn't impede me publishing this, so I'm good for the moment.

03:22 <kentonv> zomg, FileDrop just dropped.

03:22 <kentonv> https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/nn7axgy3y8kvd0m1mtk3cwca34t916p5d7m4j1j2e874nuz3t8y0

03:23 <ocdtrekkie> \o/

03:24 <kentonv> ... it's so... material design! :P

03:25 <kentonv> but highly functional

03:26 <ocdtrekkie> I'll take it. For now.

03:26 <ocdtrekkie> Material is like a plague. Spreads all over the place.

03:27 <ocdtrekkie> FABs on 1080p screens make me very sad.

03:31 <ocdtrekkie> Filed a bug. (No, not an aesthetics complaint.)

03:36 <ocdtrekkie> Filed a bigger bug. (Seems broken.) https://github.com/zombiezen/filedrop/issues/2

03:37 <kentonv> ouch... me too

03:41 <kentonv> well, hopefully fixed before launch

03:41 <kentonv> ok, time for a 24-hour vacation here. ttyl

08:56 <paulproteus> kentonv: ooh sweeet re: filedrop

08:56 <paulproteus> I think ioerror asked me for this yesterday, for Tor.

09:18 <paulproteus> Howdy au

09:18 <paulproteus> I met someone who knows you, at Debconf!

09:20 <au> nice!

09:21 <au> hackpad is open sourced (Apache2 license) today

09:21 <paulproteus> Jade mentioned yesterday!

09:21 <au> would be great to see it Sandstormed

09:21 <paulproteus> Who will make a Sandstorm package? : D

09:21 <au> but first I need to get keybase signing on EtherCalc work :)

09:21 <au> I'll ask around.

10:37 <au> added CPAL to list of licenses: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/pull/707

12:39 <synth> good morning/evening everyone, looking for tech support ;) I'm getting Internal server error [500] when creating applications, or trying to use them after creating.. relevant sandstorm.log paste @ http://pastebin.com/dKgYmzcT

12:39 <synth> Ubuntu 15.04 amd64 if that's relevant

12:39 <synth> my version is from using the latest install.sh method

12:43 <paulproteus> Howdy synth

12:43 <paulproteus> Lemme see

12:43 <paulproteus> Oh wow

12:43 <synth> here is a fresh pastebin log of me installing an etherpad grain and then attempting to create a new etherpad document, which results in a browser modal popup saying the server returned a 500 internal error:

12:43 <synth> http://pastebin.com/4LjhU0kx

12:43 <synth> hi paulproteus

12:44 <paulproteus> kj/io.c++:275: failed: miniposix::write(fd, pos, size): Operation not permitted; fd = 3

12:44 <paulproteus> is almost definitely related to the problem.

12:44 <synth> yeah, exactly

12:44 <synth> i realized my first pastebin wasnt really informative ;)

12:44 <paulproteus> Are you using a sandcats.io subdomain?

12:44 <paulproteus> Did you reconfigure anything related to usernames?

12:44 <synth> nope, using my own internal wildcard via dnsmasq which i tested and works

12:44 <synth> no passwordless username auth

12:44 <paulproteus> Interesting, okay. Did you choose "Development install"?

12:44 <synth> no, passwordless username auth

12:45 <synth> to be clearer

12:45 <synth> no to dev install

12:45 <synth> i noticed it uses mongod under /bin but it claims to live under /opt/sandstorm

12:46 <synth> sandsto+ 15392 15385 1 08:36 ? 00:00:10 /bin/mongod --fork --bind_ip 127.0.0.1 --port 6081 --dbpath /var/mongo --logpath /var/log/mongo.log --pidfilepath /var/pid/mongo.pid --auth --nohttpinterface --noprealloc --nopreallocj --smallfiles --replSet ssrs --oplogSize 16

12:46 <synth> should i wipe it and do a dev install?

12:47 <synth> would that yield more dbg info for our purpose

12:50 <dwrensha> this reminds me of https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/issues/249

12:51 <synth> hah yeah, saw that

12:51 <dwrensha> what's your kernel version?

12:51 <synth> 3.16.0-29-generic

13:18 <synth> here's a pastebin of the log output from the admin page: http://pastebin.com/XDD628Jm

13:23 <dwrensha> Just noting in case it's relevant: my 15.04 box (on which this bug does not occur) has a 3.19.0 kernel.

13:24 <synth> i guess thats one of the outcomes of a do-release-upgrade ;)

13:24 <synth> let me get it cuirrent

13:24 <dwrensha> seems somewhat unlikely to be the problem, but perhaps that's worth a shot

13:28 <dwrensha> By the way, you're seeing the "/bin/mongod" path because it runs in a chroot.

13:28 <synth> ah, thanks. had me wondering

13:28 <synth> and yeah kernel thing might be a long shot but i need to get it current anyways

13:31 <synth> on an amd64 ubuntu 15.04 install, what grub packages do you have by chance?

13:32 <synth> i've got grub-common, grub2-common, grub-efi-amd64 & grub-efi-amd64-bin

13:32 <synth> was having grub problems, so i purged all grub packages to reinstall them and apt went ahead and reinstalled all those.. ran a grub-update and all looks well but im timid to reboot :)

13:33 <synth> shitl. I dont think this box is EFI.

13:33 <synth> nevermind :)

13:34 <synth> *UEFI

13:38 <dwrensha> grub-common grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common

13:38 <synth> yeah, installing now.. really like the concept of sandstorm and just love how the auth is handled etc

13:38 <synth> hope i can get it working :)

20:06 <kentonv> dwrensha: I'm thinking the description for Wordpress should have some extended discussion of the advantages and limitations of static web publishing. We don't want to mislead people into thinking that Sandstorm wordpress is exactly like any other wordpress...

20:27 <paulproteus> IMHO it should link to a GitHub Markdown file in the repo about the details, with a one-sentence version in the description.

20:28 <paulproteus> "On Sandstorm, WordPress is a collaborative static site generator. Read more here."

20:28 <paulproteus> But I can deal with whatever and really need to go to sleep. (-:

20:28 <kentonv> paulproteus: Why the indirection?