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<evan> looks like the F/A-18 is really a different plane than the F-18
<evan> not just, say, a different missile configuration.
<drbrain> since it's non-stealth, I imagine such visual changes are easier to make
<evan> er.
<evan> the F/A-18 Super Hornet rather.
<evan> which is what the Navy uses now.
<evan> Wikipedia says they're phasing out the F-18 Hornet for the F-35
<evan> anyway.
<drbrain> our first deployment is supposed to be in 2017, so we've got a few more years to work out the bugs
<evan> holy balls
<evan> the F-35C costs $236 million per.
<drbrain> yup
<drbrain> and what's it going to shoot down?
<evan> exactly.
<drbrain> drones man
<drbrain> drones are the future
<evan> at some point, won't we have enough planes and that will be it?
<evan> yeah
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<evan> i could see us having a very small, elite manned squadren
<evan> but more than that, who are we fighting air-to-air anymore?
<drbrain> yup
<drbrain> F-35, $236 million, 8100kg of armaments
<evan> I think we've entered "fences make good neighbors" phase of air war
<evan> we have air combat fighters because they do, and they do because we do.
<drbrain> MQ-9, $37 million, 1088kg of armaments
<drbrain> and I'm pretty sure the F-35 doesn't have 14 hours of endurance
<evan> the pilot doesn't.
<evan> I wonder how long before we have a supersonic drone that can thusly do crazy maneuvers because who cares about the G force on the pilot.
<drbrain> we probably have a remote-flyable F-22 somewhere
<zzak> we have f35's in vermont
<zzak> people are bitching, because of the noise
<evan> I HATE WEBPAGES THAT RANDOMLY PLAY SOUND
<evan> wtf
<evan> I have no clue where this is coming from
<drbrain> haha
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<evan> I have no fucking clue.
<evan> I had to just close chrom
<evan> chrome.
<evan> ?
<drbrain> point 2 seems perilous
<evan> yeah
<evan> I think it could be mitigated by the VersionCache object
<evan> because the lifetime of the cache would be controlled.
<drbrain> it could be a nice win due to: #define RARRAY_EMBED_LEN_MAX 3
<drbrain> could we make the cache use weak ref?
<evan> in MRI, it's not worth the headache.
<drbrain> … doesn't 1.9 have a different weak reference thing than weakref.rb?
<evan> it doubles the object load too
<evan> one weakref per version object
<evan> you know
<evan> another compromise
<evan> that might pay off
<evan> is common Version objects
<drbrain> ObjectSpace::WeakMap
<evan> oh, wait, thats Requirement objects
<evan> drbrain: thats not in 1.8
<evan> nor 1.9?
<drbrain> I wouldn't mind skipping the cache on 1.8.7, I think support should stop not long after 1.8.7 security releases stop
<drbrain> you're right, it's not in 1.9
<evan> in Version#initialize
<evan> there is an extra string created
<evan> to_s.dup.strip
<evan> actually
<evan> 2
<evan> if version is already a String
<evan> oh, nope, String#to_s is identity
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<raggi> evan: that might be because of old spec issues
<raggi> evan: (but if that is the case, it cna probably be handled by Spec and a type check)
<raggi> any optimization in Version = big win :)
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<indirect> drbrain: thanks for the fixes, btw… the bundler build is all green on rubygems master now!
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<fwaokda> to update ruby gems on ubuntu do i just do "sudo apt-get update" after installing ruby gems? ... I tried "gem update --system" from the documentation but it says its disabled on Debian...
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<azool> I pushed a gem about 3 days ago and i can install it fine with gem install. However bundler only find the old version. Why might that be?
<azool> I have rubygems as the source in my Gemfile.
<azool> The gem itself is listed in the .gemspec - if i add a version requirement it fails and without it installs 0.0.4
<azool> error is Could not find gem 'couchrest_session_store (~> 0.0.6) ruby' ... in any of the sources.
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<hahuang65> anyone awake?
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<yorickpeterse> So this Rack remote execution stuff going on, is there some more info on it?
<yorickpeterse> As in, how can people exploit it?
<yorickpeterse> Everybody is like "ZOMG REMOTE EXECUTION" but I can't find anything on it
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<sj26> yorickpeterse: it's a timing attack that would allow you to alter a user's session cookie which is marshalled data which, maliciously crafted, allows remote code execution
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<yorickpeterse> hm
<sj26> yorickpeterse: so I throw enough requests at your app to figure out the secret you're using as your rack cookie session secret
<sj26> then encode a malicious cookie content, signed with the secret, and send it to your app
<sj26> perhaps going into further detail is not a good idea
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<yorickpeterse> hmm
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<drbrain> indirect: awesome‼
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<Sarrou> salut salut a tous
<Sarrou> putain parlez
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