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<kzoo_>
evan: trying to see if anything was changed over couple of days from the office. Everything was working on Friday and after weekend nothing is working. Could there be any other reason for this error?
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<evan>
it sounds like you can contact the server on port 443 at all
<evan>
because we want to turn it back on in the next month or so.
<bradland>
yeah, i'll add an update
<bradland>
thx
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<bradland>
shame it took until 1.7 to get openssl export issues sorted
<evan>
we may just make it so that jruby-openssl doesn't redirect
<evan>
but everything else does
<evan>
so users can cleanly get it
<evan>
there is much irony in downloading jruby-openssl over unencrypted http though
<bradland>
haha, certainly is
<drbrain>
↑ :D
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<bradland>
kzoo_: you could use tcpdump to spy on bundler activity
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<kseifried>
devn you around?
<kseifried>
ah I see he got helped by samkottler
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<jfoy>
evan: thanks, was just frustrating to see cleartext http come back on after we'd spent a significant fraction of the day figuring out how we were going to work around the new constraint. where did the discussion happen?
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<raggi>
jfoy: all over the place, but i think evan decided to change it after he saw headius' tweet/retweet go out, and then we discussed how the redirect added no security at all
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<Antiarc|Laptop>
I've been traveling; what happened?
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<kseifried>
raggi, : stupid Q but does it support HSTS?
<kseifried>
if so then the redirect would punt them to HTTPS which if HSTS was supposed would help a lot
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<raggi>
kseifried: no, but maybe we should implement that - problem is though, that for example, for jruby, it wouldn't have a db for that out the box - i mean, we could preseed, but that may be vulnerable to infrastructure layout changes
<raggi>
kseifried: i.e. vulnerable to time (bitrot)
<kseifried>
I think about it, it;s a bad idea in this case
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<sferik>
but it responded with the "No Stairway, denied!" HTML page instead of success YAML
<sferik>
one of these days, hola is gonna hit 1.0
<sferik>
best gem EVAR
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<sferik>
maybe I'll add French support
<sferik>
kind of weird that it only does Spanish and Korean
<raggi>
merde
<sferik>
:)
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<sferik>
qrush: any idea why this might be happening? ^^
<sferik>
have you ever seen this before?
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<sferik>
oh, I think I see the problem
<sferik>
the push to AWS failed
<sferik>
did we ever update the S3 access keys on staging?
<evan>
qrush: oh yeah status is wrong
<sferik>
I'm guessing not?
<evan>
fixing.
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<sferik>
evan: thanks
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<k7762>
evan: k776, been talking to you on twitter about the connection issue
<k7762>
Thought this might be a better place to chat
<evan>
sure
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<evan>
i'm just finishing something, be right with you
<evan>
but something is up with DNS on your machine
<k7762>
Of course. Thanks for your help
<k7762>
Yer, I suspected. But it only appears to affect rubygems, and I removed the IPv6 DNS settings, ran "dscacheutil -flushcache", rebooted my router, and it still fails to connect :-(
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<evan>
does `ping rubygems.org` say it can't find it either?
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<evan>
did you maybe add a /etc/hosts entry for rubygems.org?
<k7762>
evan: "Request timeout for icmp_seq 0"
<evan>
sure
<evan>
but did it give you an IP?
<evan>
it has ping turned off right now
<k7762>
PING rubygems.org (54.245.255.174)
<k7762>
So yes, it gave a ping
<evan>
ok, thats good.
<k7762>
*ping IP
<evan>
try curl now
<evan>
against rubygems.org
<k7762>
Hmm, it's working again
<k7762>
Very odd. I didn't do anything to my config since the reboot I did which didbn't fix it
<k7762>
So whatever changed, it wasn't something I did
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<sferik>
evan: did you update the S3 access token on staging or are you still working on that?
<sferik>
evan: just ping me when it's done
<evan>
I haven't no.
<sferik>
I'd like to get this release pushed tonight
<evan>
i need terrance help to get status fixed
<evan>
I pushed the code
<evan>
which should fix it
<evan>
but it hasn't
<sferik>
:\
<evan>
and I don't have access to 'heroku run console`
<evan>
for some reason.
<sferik>
hone: you there, bro?
<sferik>
I guess I'll go back to working on my OSCON proposal
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<kseifried>
ack I would suggest trying http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/ if your DNS/network is going wonky. Java based web app, tests out a lot of stuff
<kseifried>
drbrain: something to suggest to people complaining of possible network issues
<drbrain>
kseifried: cool
<kseifried>
drbrain: I am a font of use(less) information =)
<kseifried>
but yeah. my ISP used to go all wonky all the time, like losing routes to half of europe (so no python.org)
<raggi>
kseifried: that happens on the internet all the time
<raggi>
kseifried: but msot of the time, north america don't notice, because they don't leave north america
<kseifried>
true I guess. all the important stuff is hosted here ;)
<kseifried>
except thepiratebay
<raggi>
hehe
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<raggi>
well, does happen here too, but it tends to be differnet to diagnose
<raggi>
you acutally get routed through different places
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<raggi>
but when you're in the middle of the atlantic, and there's only a couple of ways
<raggi>
ending up going via europe to get to the west coast is kinda noticable
<raggi>
and you learn to hate on level3
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<kseifried>
dude
<kseifried>
no way they are as evil/incompetent as canadian ISPs
<kseifried>
like the whole US "isps are capping data, they're eviiiil!" made me laugh since we've had data caps in canada for ages
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<yorickpeterse>
Morning
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<kseifried>
drbrain, you around?
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<gokul>
My bundle install is stuck for more than 10mins
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<gokul>
My bundle install is stuck for 20 mins as of now
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<mr_ndrsn_>
Gokul: I know they were having issues yesterday. I'd see if there's anything logged...
<gokul>
status.rubygems.org seems fine though.
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<elkng>
what are rubygems ? ruby libraryes to add ruby functionality ?
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<yorickpeterse>
drbrain: evan: qrush: regarding the signing stuff: regardless of what solution we use we'll need some way to hook into the installatin process of a Gem. Would there be any objections against a hook system being added in the installation/update comand for Rubygems?
<yorickpeterse>
* installation, damn train wifi
<yorickpeterse>
If not then I'll most likely spend some time tonight setting one up. It would also pave way for the possibility to have multiple ways of validation depending on how crazy you want it to get
<evan>
yorickpeterse: Since we load gem plugins and they could monkey patch their way into installation/update
<evan>
adding a hook system in there is fine.
<yorickpeterse>
evan: Great, I think that such a system would be good to have in general
<yorickpeterse>
I'll open a pull request with some extra details when I get back home, right now my internet is a bucket of shit