apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || this channel is logged at http://irclog.whitequark.org, other public logging is prohibited
<csffsc> okay
<csffsc> all it took, was adding a space to (' ')
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<optimusbrine> I am trying to install a gem with a native extension. The extconf.rb had errors, so it failed to build. I have corrected the errors, and now the native extension builds fine. Is there any way to 'resume' the gem installation, without downloading the extconf.rb for the extension and overwriting my changes?
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<optimusbrine> (or would I have to repackage the gem and do a local install?)
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<ShellFu> If I need to delete a key in a deeply nested hash, would the following be an effective method for doing so? >http://pastebin.com/1vhjhE5w<
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<ericmathison> ShellFu: Please forgive my ignorance, if I'm missing something obvious but when you say "delete a key", do you mean remove a key value pair. I mean it wouldn't be syntactically correct for an element in a hash not to have a key right?
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<ShellFu> yes
<ShellFu> so the goal is to find a key no matter how deep, and remove the k,v pair. I think I got it, but am open to suggestion as always
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<terrellt> ericmathison: As long as there are never any values that are arrays of hashes, works fine.
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<glaksmono> Time.zone.now.beginning_of_day <-- how do you get the local timezone of the user?
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<csffsc> hey
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<visof> hi
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<visof> what is the best way to print dependencies between keys and values in hash in order http://pastie.org/private/acntaghtxyd4kq57zv3dlg
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<visof> ?
<visof> :x => nil in the hash means :x is independent
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<visof> i'm sure recursion will simplify the solution but i don't do it proberly
<visof> properly*
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<fafafafa> unable to join ror channel
<fafafafa> rubyonrails :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
<fafafafa> shows me this error
<fafafafa> any ideas why ?
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<sevenseacat> you dont have a regisrered account on freenode.
<sevenseacat> *registered
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<bambanx> guys anyone can give me a hand to calculate the date in 30 days more ?
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<byprdct> bambanx are you just trying to figure out what the day will be in 30 days?
<bambanx> what date i mean , month , day , and year
<bambanx> sorry for my bad english
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<bambanx> can be time.now + 30.days .from_now ?
<byprdct> my_date = Time.now + 6.days
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<byprdct> but 30.days
<byprdct> should work
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<apeiros> bambanx: either Time+30.days or 30.days.from_now, but not both
<byprdct> distance_of_time_in_words(from_time, to_time = 0, include_seconds_or_options = {}, options = {})
<apeiros> 30.days.from_now already returns a Time and you can't add two times together.
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<bambanx> ok
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<bambanx> Thanks guys
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<bambanx> byprdct, in irb i get this NoMethodError: undefined method `days' for 6:Fixnum
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<bambanx> using my_date = Time.now + 6.days
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<byprdct> think you need to load date
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<byprdct> require 'date'
<byprdct> don't think its loaded by default
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<bambanx> works thanks byprdct
<byprdct> cool
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<primalivet> Hi, does someone know a good resource on how to setup Ruby and WEBrick locally? (Without Rails)
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<apeiros> primalivet: um, all you have to do is install ruby.
<apeiros> webrick is part of stdlib
<apeiros> note that webrick is not meant for anything productive, though. it's rather slow.
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<sevenseacat> ive lost count of the number of people ive seen want to use webrick on production servers
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<primalivet> okay, sorry I'm new to Ruby, so I drop WEBrick, but what server does people use in production?
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<primalivet> apeiros: okay, sorry I'm new to Ruby, so I drop WEBrick, but what server does people use in production?
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<DanBoy> apache dog
<DanBoy> nginx
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<sevenseacat> for a web server yeah, one of those
<DanBoy> i use apache in development and production i dunno if im weird though
<apeiros> primalivet: no need to be sorry ;-)
<DanBoy> ya :D
<apeiros> primalivet: real webservers: apache, nginx. excellent ruby based servers: puma, unicorn, thin
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<sevenseacat> i use webrick in dev, most people i know use pow though
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<jrobeson> i use puma in dev for actioncontroller::live
<apeiros> I use thin in dev
<apeiros> lean, fast, simple
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<apeiros> I don't see anything speaking against the other options, though
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<primalivet> Yay, heaps of alternatives, thanks alot!
<sevenseacat> i didnt know webrick was part of the stdlib though, thats cool
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<DanBoy> ya i forgot about that
<sevenseacat> (even after two years sometimes i still cant pick what things are ruby core, what things are ruby stdlib and what things are rails additions)
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<DanBoy> i think its been in there awhile too
<DanBoy> the book that mentioned it was like from 2006 if i remember
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<robaman> anyone know the reasoning behind "Integer(nil) => 0" ?
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<tobiasvl> what do you reason it should do?
<robaman> #to_i returns 0 if value is not an integer, so I was hoping Integer(nil) would throw an exception
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<tobiasvl> >> nil.to_i
<eval-in> tobiasvl => 0 (https://eval.in/56385)
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<robaman> >> Integer(nil)
<eval-in> robaman => can't convert nil into Integer (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/56386)
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<robaman> hmm :)
<tobiasvl> oh, i wasn't aware
<tobiasvl> 19>> Integer(nil)
<eval-in> tobiasvl => can't convert nil into Integer (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/56387)
<tobiasvl> 18>> Integer(nil)
<eval-in> tobiasvl => 0 (https://eval.in/56388)
<robaman> 1.8.7 :009 > Integer(nil) => 0
<tobiasvl> there
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<robaman> oh!
<robaman> good to know, thanks!
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<apeiros> sevenseacat: don't worry, after 10 years you'll have forgotten it again anyway ;-)
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<Lewix> sevenseacat: i use thin
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<niop> hi folks, run into a problem installing a gem on jruby, but the jruby channel seems rather quiet at the moment, so might try here in case it has any ruby relevance. when i run "rvmsudo gem install debase", i get "C extension support is not enabled", though having added a .jrubyrc (since disappeared) to set cext to true. any ideas? installing the gem in an attempt to get debugger to work in intellij idea. full error msgs: http://pastebin.com/UeeV200Z
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<seriously_random> how to calculate combination of 3 colors each having 256 possible values?
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<apeiros> 256**3
<apeiros> @ seriously_random
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<canton7> (0..255).repeated_combination(3)
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<apeiros> that'll be 16mio. combinations, not sure you really want to enumerate all of them…
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<canton7> yeah, I didn't say it was a good idea :P
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<around> hi, I have a class name under a module shadowing the name "YAML" - how can I reference the YAML class of the stdlib module 'yaml' from within my class with the same name?
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<apeiros> ::YAML
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<around> thanks
<around> /home/nyuszika7h/scripts/ruby/sourcherry/lib/sourcherry/config.rb:7:in `[]': can't convert Symbol into Integer (TypeError)
<around> any idea on this one?
<around> I'm trying to make config.options[:foo] accessible via config[:foo]
<Xeago> Is this decent english? Context: apologizing and asking for another chance
<Xeago> Please allow me to improve myself and not be overshadowed by this unfortunate event
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<workmad3> Xeago: ?
<Xeago> workmad3: ?
<Xeago> Is it decent english?
<workmad3> Xeago: the second sentence?
<Xeago> yes
<Xeago> "Please allow me to improve myself and not be overshadowed by this unfortunate event"
<workmad3> Xeago: seems it to me :)
<Xeago> appropriate for such context?
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<workmad3> Xeago: you kinda threw me by not quoting it... I was wondering what had happened in here that was causing you to apologise :)
<Xeago> around: do you need to convert it to a symbol?
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<around> Xeago: not really, that's just a convenience thing
<around> so config['foo'] would work too
<around> I can live without that
<Xeago> around: seems to me like you just want @options[key]
<Xeago> not sure why you are getting integer stuff in there
<workmad3> Xeago: well, if someone was being picky they'd probably notice that there wasn't really an apology in there
<workmad3> around: you're trying to access an array as a hash
<Xeago> workmad3: I am trying to apologize
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<Xeago> >> a= foo: :bar; a[:foo]
<eval-in> Xeago => /tmp/execpad-3633e34b896b/source-3633e34b896b:2: syntax error, unexpected tLABEL ... (https://eval.in/56435)
<Xeago> >> a= {foo: :bar }; a[:foo]
<eval-in> Xeago => :bar (https://eval.in/56436)
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<Xeago> that's what he is doing?
<workmad3> >> a = [1,2]; a[:foo]
<eval-in> workmad3 => no implicit conversion of Symbol into Integer (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/56437)
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<Xeago> but options is supposed to be a hash
<Xeago> in any case
<Xeago> do you think it is too formal workmad3?
<workmad3> Xeago: options defaults to a hash... I'd guess an array has been passed in :)
<around> config is a SourCherry::Config object
<around> I didn't pass in an array unless YAML.load did
<around> I'm trying to access config.options[:foo] via config[:foo]
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<workmad3> around: it might have done... would need to see the yaml file
<Xeago> workmad3: thanks
<workmad3> Xeago: could do with knowing a bit more context to know that... if you'd rather, could do that in PM
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<workmad3> around: that's the entire yaml file?
<around> yes
<around> for now
<around> this is still WIP
<workmad3> hmm... weird
<around> I think I get it
<workmad3> any chance of the code that's loading that and creating your Config object? something is weird here
<around> maybe the custom [] is not working
<workmad3> around: it's being called
<around> config = SourCherry::Config::YAML.new(filename)
<workmad3> around: line 7 is @options[key.to_sym]
<workmad3> around: and that's the line it's erroring on
<around> I removed the .to_sym
<around> still erroring
<around> oh, hmm
<around> I didn't require lib/config
<workmad3> around: how about pastieing yoour YAML.new file
<around> but it would have errored then?
<around> sec
<workmad3> *your
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<around> the executable or the SourCherry::Config::YAML library?
<workmad3> SourCherry:: one
<around> er
<around> note to self, write a script to get a link from the API JSON response for that pastebin
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<workmad3> around: ah, there's your problem
<workmad3> around: you want ::YAML.load_file(filename)
<around> oh
<workmad3> >> require 'yaml'; YAML.load("string")
<eval-in> workmad3 => (https://eval.in/56441)
<workmad3> >> require 'yaml'; YAML.load("string").class
<eval-in> workmad3 => (https://eval.in/56442)
<workmad3> hmm, I think eval-in prohibits use of yaml
<around> >> require 'yaml'; p YAML.load("string").class
<eval-in> around => (https://eval.in/56443)
<workmad3> around: YAML.load("str") => "str"
<around> ah
<workmad3> around: and yes, you do not want the .to_sym
<workmad3> around: YAML loads the file with string keys
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<around> oh
<workmad3> around: if anything, you'd want 'key.to_s' in your code :)
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<relix> hey guys
<relix> I was wondering how to make this pretty:
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<relix> that method contains two ways I've thought of
<relix> but I don't like neither of them
<workmad3> relix: you start by putting it on a prettier paste site, like gist.github.com ;)
<canton7> "def authorized_for_photo?" for starters :)
<relix> ah I have a typo in there as well
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<canton7> I'd take the one on line 3 over that if statement any day. add line breaks if you're worried about length
<dawkirst> Hi, what is the correct file structure for Minitest unit tests?
<canton7> also, if you did use that if statement monstrosity, return true/false not true/nil
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<relix> is there a better way though?
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<canton7> relix, I'd personally just add some linebreaks to the first option
<canton7> when I parse the first version mentally, it becomes "user is authorized for photo if user is admin or user owns photo" etc. The second version parses as "if user owns photo, user is authorized. else if photo was taken by user, user is authorized", etc
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<relix> canton7 yeah I don't like the second method at all either
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<relix> canton7 linebreaks are ok, but I'm checking if there's like, some third option I've not thought of
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<canton7> nah, the first is pretty clear
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<relix> canton7 I guess :) thanks
<relix> let's hope code climate won't yell at me!
<canton7> if it does, hit it until it stops
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<relix> canton7 actually I found certain bad bugs in the code
<relix> if current_user is nil, it fails (because .admin? doesn't work), and if both photo.user and current_user is nil, it always returns true
<relix> so it'll be even more complicated
<canton7> might be better to do something like "return false if <condition fails>\n return false if <another condition fails> \n ... \n return true"
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<canton7> not entirely convinced that will be better, though
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<canton7> that works
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<relix> yeah looks neat enough
<relix> cheers
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<catphish> does anyone happen to know how to get a list of local ip addresses in ruby? i am looking to bind udp sockets to all local IPs, i guess it's probably OS specific though
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<catphish> even then, monitoring and binding sockets to each ip (and closing them again) is going to be a pain :(
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<Xeago> catphish: cna't you bind to 0.0.0.0?
<catphish> Xeago: you'd think so, but with UDP, you can't send replies from the right address
<Xeago> hmm
<catphish> (as far as i can figure out, anyway)
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<Xeago> hanmac: PING, you'll know that
<catphish> basically i have a host where IPs may be added and removed, i want to listen for udp requests on all of them and of course reply from the appropriate IP
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<catphish> but afaik you can't set the source address of a udp packet
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<catphish> it just picks the first one
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<Hanmac> Xeago, finding local ip adresses? i dont think that is easy possible … and if yes it is to 99% OS specific
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<catphish> that's what i need i think :)
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<chavezgu> $ rails _4.0.0_ --version
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<sie> Any suggestions how to simplify this a bit? http://sprunge.us/fIYK
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<sie> user258467, That doesn't seem like ruby.
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<canton7> java?
<user258467> sie oups
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<tobiasvl> sie: i don't likt the while loop. iterate over slices of indices instead?
<workmad3> sie: for starters, you can simplify this: '@indices.join('/').presence || nil'
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<workmad3> sie: .presence returns nil in the case of an empty array, blank string, etc
<sie> ups
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<sie> this damn old macro
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<sie> workmad3, How could I miss that... I must be really lost today.
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<workmad3> sie: and I think you could also do @columns = @indicies.each_with_object([]){|idx, columns| columns << [columns.last, idx].compact.join('/')}
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<workmad3> not sure if that's simpler though :)
<sie> looks more sane
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<sie> each_with_object == each+inject?
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<workmad3> hmm... @indicies[1..-1].each_with_object([indicies[0]]){|idx, columns| columns << [columns.last, idx].join("/")}
<workmad3> and not quite
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<workmad3> each_with_object doesn't care about the return value of the block, it always passes the provided object into the block
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<sie> oh, I see
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<workmad3> sie: essentially, each_with_object was introduced to stop the awful hacks of .inject to build hashes ;)
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<kraljev> Hey, does anbody think [:a, :b, :c].keys should respond with (0..2)
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<kraljev> And if not, why not?
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<sie> That would be interesting, certainly.
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<kraljev> 2. Hash#+ should be an alias for #merge
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<sie> s/should/could/
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<JRizzle> msg NickServ REGISTER chikabra1 skatlib1@aim.com
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<JRizzle> LoL
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<JRizzle> hi all
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<kraljev> hi
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<TorpedoSkyline> hey guys how do I set RACK_ENV? I'm using sinatra and using ruby index.rb -e development isn't doing it. On top of that, I can't find any good documentation about this.
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<TorpedoSkyline> is RACK_ENV a system variable or something that I set when I execute the app? I've got no clue.
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<hoelzro> don't you want to use rackup?
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<TorpedoSkyline> hoelzro probably… I want to use unicorn as my server. I'm a bit inexperienced here ;P
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<hoelzro> doesn't unicorn have a way to set RACK_ENV?
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<TorpedoSkyline> yeah, but I also want to set it for development
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<hoelzro> TorpedoSkyline: have you tried 'unicorn --help'?
<hoelzro> " -E, --env RACK_ENV use RACK_ENV for defaults (default: development)"
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<hoelzro> straight from the horse^Wunicorn's mouth.
<TorpedoSkyline> hoelzro I haven't install Unicorn quite yet, I'm just trying to set up the environment detection code on my dev machine first which is using thin. I'm starting the app using ruby index.rb -p 8080
<TorpedoSkyline> so I guess I need to set up rackup before I do anything
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<olivier_bK> i try to execute a query sql in my ruby script but i get nothing i dont understand why ?
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<sie> we don't know.
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<hoelzro> olivier_bK: would you mind pasting some code on a pastebin and sending us a link?
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<olivier_bK> thanks hoelzro
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<hoelzro> oh boy.
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<olivier_bK> yes
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<hoelzro> does flush-logs actually print anything?
<ericwood> lol
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<olivier_bK> yes it's true but i want to be shure everything it's okai
<olivier_bK> how i can get a return true
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<hoelzro> then don't use %x?
<hoelzro> use system instead and check the exit status
<TorpedoSkyline> ok where can I get some documentation on config.ru that's more detailed than this? https://github.com/rack/rack/wiki/(tutorial)-rackup-howto
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<olivier_bK> hoelzro, okai i goingto try thanks
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<TorpedoSkyline> btw got ENV["RACK_ENV"] set by using rackup ;)
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<sander^work> Anyone know how I can solve this problem: nokogiri requires Ruby version >= 1.9.2. ? I'm running ubuntu 12.04.
<sander^work> Does it exist an ubuntu apt respository with newer version of ruby?
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<Hanmac> sander^work: isnt the ruby1.9.1 package new enough?
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<sander^work> hanmac, I have ruby1.8
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<Hanmac> use "update-alternatives --config ruby" to switch that
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<sander^work> hanmac, There is only one alternative in link group ruby: /usr/bin/ruby1.8 Nothing to configure.
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<Hanmac> sander^work: i say: install the ruby1.9.1-full package and THEN use update-alternatives
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<olivier_bK> do you know why my variable are not interpreted ? https://gist.github.com/zyriuse75/bf5a42f2a5d7ef5726bb
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<sander^work> hanmac, it's still complaning about version 1.9.2 or higher.
<Hanmac> olivier_bK: its the ' use "
<Hanmac> sander^work: okay what does ruby -v shows you?
<olivier_bK> yes
<olivier_bK> thanks
<sander^work> hanmac, strange: 1.9.3p0
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<Hanmac> sander^work: use "update-alternatives —config gem" too
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<sander^work> hanmac, I did change to 1.9.1 for both gem and ruby.. still it's complaining about too low version.
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<sander^work> hanmac, http://pastebin.com/s65RBCFx
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<Hanmac> sander^work: bundler is the problem, you need to reinstall it
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<TorpedoSkyline> wasn't there a talk done at RailsConf 2012 (or 2013) about how unicorn works?
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<TorpedoSkyline> found it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rAoasxZKGU if anyone's interested
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<daxroc> Hey all
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<ShellFu> morning all. Those of you running automaton I just did a pretty decent upgrade on it over the weekend. You can upgrade and it will not break your current implementation.
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<ShellFu> Upgrade consists of fact interpolation, unlimited inheritance, cleaned up many methods etc.
<ShellFu> havent added anything to the readme. I shall do so before end of day
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<ShellFu> opps wrong channel
<ShellFu> well that was unfortunate
<ShellFu> Sorry folks :)
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<ShellFu> havent had coffee yet :D
<sander^work> hanmac, looks like it solved it. Had to install ruby-dev package too. I've waited for 5 minutes now.. and nokogiri is still waiting to be built. Is that right?
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<Hanmac> sander^work: if you install via bundler did you reinstall it too? because it was still pointing to the wrong ruby?
<sander^work> hanmac, Yes. I did. Works now after some waiting.
<bean> probably had to relaunch your shell
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<sander^work> Actually.. I didn't have to.
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<lessless> hey folks, have u seen an rubinius x project page?
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<lessless> what do you think about it?
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<soundboy> how do i run a ruby script from within ruby? I have a <Pathname>, and the file does not contain a class
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<slash_nick> Is there a more terse way of writing this: File.open(file).drop(1).reverse.drop(1).reverse.each do ... ?
<slash_nick> (Reading all but the first/last lines of a file)
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<Squarepy> I would hope so
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<onewheelskyward> what the
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<onewheelskyward> ah neat, I didn't know about drop.
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<Squarepy> do you need drop them?
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<onewheelskyward> flip it up, drop it and reverse it.
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<ShellFu> I cant. It hurts when I try
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<ShellFu> lol nvrmind. Ill keep the vulgarity out of the channel
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<Squarepy> why not just read it and index it?
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<_aeris_> hello :)
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<_aeris_> is there anybody here who know qtbindings ?
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<_aeris_> i have troubles with C++ overloaded methods :(
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<_aeris_> There is QSvgWidget::load(QString&) and GSvgWidget::load(QByteArray&) and i'm not able to call the QByteArray version from ruby :(
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<bitcycle> Hey all. Can someone advise me on how to install a package of type gem that requires ruby development header files when they're not at the default /usr/include directory? In RHEL 6.2 the include files end up at /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux.
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<fenak> bitcycle: are they on ldconf?
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<fenak> bitcycle: you could use --with-ruby-include=include/dir, but i don't know if it works for any gem.
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<CocoStorm> Hi, I can't seem to find a Head First Ruby book by O'reilly.. I have only found Head First Rails.. Does this assume you know Ruby? Also, is it a Ruby on Rails book or just Rails?
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<JRizzle> rails is built from ruby kind of like jquery is to jscript o.O
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<JRizzle> look at it as ruby on steroids
<bean> gotta say, i'm not a "read a book to learn programming" sort of guy.
<JRizzle> which is what rails is
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<CocoStorm> JRizzle: So can I just jump into rails?
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<CocoStorm> i.e should i get that book
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<JRizzle> i went straight to rails
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<CocoStorm> JRizzle: so you don't need to learn ruby?
<JRizzle> i learn best by modifying, not reading though
<bean> this is a ruby channel, but RoR questions should likely be asked in #rubyonrails ;)
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<JRizzle> yes CoCo /join #rubyonrails
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<CocoStorm> JRizzle: nobody is active there, but yeah I guess I can learn Ruby by learning ruby on rails huh?
<CocoStorm> Ruby on rails = rails?
<CocoStorm> *==
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<terrellt> We don't respond in 5 minutes over there.
<terrellt> Must be dead.
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<bean> CocoStorm: yes, Ruby on Rails is the full term
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<CocoStorm> bean: ah I see thanks
<CocoStorm> and I can learn ruby on rails and at the same time i'd pick up ruby?
* bean isn't a rails fan
<bean> so I don't know
<bean> :0
<bean> :)*
<bean> I usually recommend that people learn ruby, then do w/e they want with it
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<CocoStorm> I see
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<hTrevyn> Can anyone assist with this error?ActiveRecord::ConnectionTimeoutError: could not obtain a database connection within 60 seconds (waited 60.000153049 seconds). The max pool size is currently 5; consider increasing it.
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<bean> I
<bean> hTrevyn: i'd increase your pool size :)
<bean> I think there is also a timeout directive.
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<shevy> bean do you write web-related code?
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* bean is mostly a sysadmin / devops guy
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<bean> if i was gonna do web it's mostly Sinatra stuff
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<spinuplabs> Howdy
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<shevy> how much code is needed to make perfect projects...
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<MrZYX> shevy: just as much as needed
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<duncanm> b
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<duncanm> did the #filter method get removed in Ruby 2.0?
<duncanm> it used to be a synonym for #select
<duncanm> but map -> collect is still there
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<duncanm> wait
<duncanm> was filter ever there?
<duncanm> i'm so confused now
<bean> >> [1,2,3].filter {|x| x == 1}
<eval-in> bean => undefined method `filter' for [1, 2, 3]:Array (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/56597)
<bean> 19>> [1,2,3].filter {|x| x == 1}
<eval-in> bean => undefined method `filter' for [1, 2, 3]:Array (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/56598)
<bean> nope
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<duncanm> whoa
<duncanm> this is such a weird moment for me
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<thirdender> okay... I'm trying to install chruby on a CentOS/WHM server. How do I enable chruby for WHM created users? I'm having trouble telling where the chruby binary is... I'm assuming it's aliased to another command somehow?
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<thirdender> /etc/profile.d/chruby.sh is there... okay, cool. So I'm assuming it's something WHM specific that's making things nuts?
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<postmodern> thirdender, i don't have experience with WHM, so yes probably
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<ekarlso> /win 36
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<thirdender> postmodern: thanks :-p I was banging my head trying to figure out where this was... I knew it was working for root, but couldn't find the reference. Guess I should have read TFA :-p
<postmodern> thirdender, maybe try diffing the .bashrc/.bash_profile files?
<postmodern> thirdender, i assume the WHM created users have different shell configurations
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<postmodern> thirdender, or possibly are not using bash at all?
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<thirdender> GNU bash, version 4.1.2
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<thirdender> if I run `bash` as root, `chruby` is no longer available... curious.
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<glen> how do i check that path is regular file (not symlink, not dir)
<glen> manual says File.file? should do it (named file exists and is regular file), but reallity it says true also for symlinks on ruby 1.9 http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0.0/File.html#method-c-file-3F
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<shevy> glen, use File.symlink? instead
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<shevy> or a dual check
<shevy> first File.file?, then File.symlink?
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<shevy> glen a symlink would just be a pointer to the real target, either a file or a directory (or nothing, if the target does not exist?, however you could use File.ftype to check, in case the argument to it is a symlink, it would return a string called "link"
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<glen> .ftype is ruby2 thing?
<glen> $ ruby -e 'p File.ftype("nofile")'
<glen> -e:1:in `ftype': No such file or directory - nofile (Errno::ENOENT)
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<glen> ah, ftype did throw. nvm
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<guillaume__> hello
<guillaume__> i have a question
<guillaume__> i'm trying to work with rubyrep
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<guillaume__> rubyrep can make pretty good replications between postgresql server
<guillaume__> everything is fine, except with bytea fields
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<guillaume__> bytea are converted with escaped ascii values in destination table
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<guillaume__> rubyrep works with ruby 1.8
<guillaume__> and postgresql is 9.2
<guillaume__> i tried with bytea_output hex and escape
<guillaume__> no difference
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<guillaume__> when i read datas , in source db i have bytea like that : cnVieV9yfdfFdf etc...
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<guillaume__> in destination DB i read bytea value like that \43\156\126 etc
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<perlsyntax> hey
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<csffsc> hey
<perlsyntax> :)
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<csffsc> perlsyntax in a ruby room.. nice
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<csffsc> I interviewed at a perl company a couple months ago
<perlsyntax> cool
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<perlsyntax> Anyone try out ruby 2.0 yet?
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<Hanmac> perlsyntax: i think the question is a few month late, right? ;P
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<perlsyntax> Sorry i just found out about ruby 2.0
<csffsc> yeah 2.1 is upon is in a bit
<perlsyntax> cool
<perlsyntax> I just install fedora 19 with compiz and found out about ruby 2.0 it has:D
<csffsc> neat
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<perlsyntax> yep i hope it faster:D
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<Hanmac> i am suprised that centos does already have 1.8 ruby ;P
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<perlsyntax> wow
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<csffsc> yeah 1.8.7 is default for many operating systems..
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<perlsyntax> i know ubuntu has that.
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<Hanmac> perlsyntax: not anymore
<csffsc> yeah 13.04 changed that
<Hanmac> newer ubuntu has 1.9.3 as default
<csffsc> havent looked at 13.10
<perlsyntax> didn't know that.
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<andres833> hanmac, ruby-1.8.7.352-12.el6_4.x86_64
<perlsyntax> i was use linux mint 13 with mate maybe that why i didn't know.
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<andres833> hanmac, centos 6.4 have ruby-1.8.7.352-12.el6_4.x86_64
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<i8igmac> how would you set a limit to your threads before you start a new one?
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<Hanmac> andres833: thats why i am supirsed … i thought centos has OLDER ruby ;D
<i8igmac> var=10
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<CocoStorm> Hi I need to make a web app in Ruby that has an input box and a button. The data that is being inputted should be sent to a server, reversed and returned to a second page and displayed. Is this tricky for someone who is a Java developer? I need to learn Ruby and implement it within a week
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<CocoStorm> My friend claims it's not doable
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<andres833> hanmac, when you use SO for servers you need stable servers i think that the best way for make the server very stable
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<csffsc> CocoStorm: read; http://guides.rubyonrails.org/ and watch: www.railscasts.com
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<CocoStorm> csffsc: so I'm guessing it's not trivial :)
<guillaume__> hello, i don't know very well ruby, what kind of application to you do with ruby ??
<csffsc> if all you need to do is return data, and you're already a developer.. you should be able to do this in 2-3 days max
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<csffsc> basically you want a button press to respond with a hello world on a seperate page?
<Hanmac> yeah stable software, so stable it still runs on stone circles
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<CocoStorm> csffsc: I think so, they didn't specify what 'data'
<CocoStorm> csffsc: I guess it would make sense to learn ruby first and not jump straight into ruby on rails
<CocoStorm> ?
<csffsc> probably refering to an text input
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<CocoStorm> I suppose, so just reverse a string then
<CocoStorm> that doesn't sound too hard
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<CocoStorm> but I wouldn't know
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<csffsc> CocoStorm: just about every entrylevel rails tutorial you find will cover this topic
<CocoStorm> csffsc: I see, so you suggest going straight to rails tutorials?
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<csffsc> although most are building some type of basic crud a(create, read, update, delete) of database records
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<csffsc> You said you're a java programmer?
<guillaume__> CocoStorm: you can learn ruby finger in the noose !
<CocoStorm> csffsc: yeah
<guillaume__> but you may learn python, it is more smart language
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<csffsc> .. or go entirely off topic and go with python, as guillaume__ suggests
<CocoStorm> lol
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<CocoStorm> csffsc: I will start there, I suppose
<guillaume__> csffsc: no offence, but ruby is just a geek langugage ;)
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<csffsc> guillaume__: I use both, python & ruby.. they both have their uses
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<guillaume__> i dont knwo if it is because i use jruby or something else, but i found ruby quite slow (actually i only know ruby for one case, one project)
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<guillaume__> but the perf are, according to me, quite bad...
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<guillaume__> of course ruby has a smart syntax, but ...
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<csffsc> python benefits from it's wealth of academic/scientific libraries
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<guillaume__> i don't know a thing that ruby can do and python doesn't
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<CocoStorm> Thanks csffsc btw
<csffsc> CocoStorm: welcome, if you have any questions just ask..
<CocoStorm> sure :)
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<guillaume__> i have a question....
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<guillaume__> what the fuck with the bytea_escape function
<guillaume__> why such a method exists
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<guillaume__> it makes me loose last night
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<csffsc> heh
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<guillaume__> ok it's not ruby it's activerecord
<guillaume__> but ...
<guillaume__> very bad thing
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<csffsc> yeah I was looking at the ruby docs
<csffsc> byte_escape doesnt exist
<guillaume__> no it's in postgresql activerecord lib
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<guillaume__> if i could keep the man which write it
<guillaume__> it may be a woman
<guillaume__> lol
<guillaume__> ;)
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<guillaume__> can you build windows apps with ruby ? is there backport to gtk or else ?
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<aaj> does ruby on rails support on demand connections to mysql , what would be its disadvantages compared to using persistent connection ?
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<Hanmac> aaj #rubyonrails
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<aaj> hanmac: thanks
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<shevy> plan.rb:125:in `gsub!': invalid byte sequence in UTF-8 (ArgumentError)
<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> seems I solved it for now via .force_encoding('ASCII-8BIT')
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<Douglish> Hello everyone, I try to install rmagick gem, but I got stuck on ext configuration, mkmf have_header won't compile correctly, it says gomp library is missing (that's caused by openmp). And also have_header use clang for compiling instead of gcc and that's the problem I guess. I exported CC variable to gcc, but have_header still uses clang, any idea what can I do about it?
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<prsn> hey all, I'm trying to use the CSV class to parse some .csv files, and I'm having trouble finding any examples that don't just immediately iterate over the rows. I would like to do some processing based on the headers first, and I'm finding it frustrating to figure out the idiomatic way.
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<Nilium> There's an idiomatic way to do that?
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<prsn> Basically, I want to: a) c = CSV.new(file), b) h = c.headers, c) c.each { .. }
<prsn> but headers aren't populated until they have been read
<Nilium> .. What's the difference between a regular row and headers?
<prsn> so it seems like i have to call c.shift first? but then i have them so why would i call headers
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<prsn> it just seems like there's this structure there that is intended to be used in a clean way
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<prsn> but then it kind of undermines itself and makes me do it all myself
<prsn> and i'm trying to find an example of someone doing it "right"
<prsn> so i can see what i'm missing
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<Nilium> What's the difference between a row and headers?
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<Nilium> Listen, you're using CSV, you're already doing it wrong
<Nilium> There is no right way to use a terrible format
<Nilium> So dispense with the search for idiomatic use of a CSV thing and just do what works
<prsn> anyone else around who doesn't just want to be antagonistic?
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<Nilium> I'm not being antagonistic, I'm telling you to be pragmatic
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<prsn> you're making completely baseless assumptions about my operating environment. try giving people the basic respect of assuming that they want the answer to the question they asked, not a different one you'd rather answer