<z_eos>
havenwood: weird ... I just have noticed that date was wrong on the box I have the issue ... after ntpdate ruby builds ...
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<n_blownapart>
testtest
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<cHarNe2>
hi guys, im trying to create some simple xml-files with active_support/core_ext, but i cant seem to find how to set the name of the sub-nodes to "person" or something more relevant, any one know how to?
<axl_>
I didn't know you were working so hard on it
<axl_>
i just want to write a more readable intializer
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<xybre>
Eh, I get bored and write code for people. :)
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<axl_>
xybre: :) thanks
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<xybre>
I often learn stuff. Anyway, I am not able to figure out what the logic *should* do, and pretty much any bit of code is going to seriously domain specific, so its difficult to know how it should look when I don't know what its supposed to DO.
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<|jemc|>
so I've got a library that extends some core classes
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<|jemc|>
however, the methods added are not integral to the functioning of the library
<|jemc|>
they are for convenience
<|jemc|>
anybody know a good pattern for including them by default, but giving the user some opportunity to 'opt out'?
<|jemc|>
I've got a few ideas, but they all seem a little weird
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<|jemc|>
or rather, they all seem to have a problem or two when I think about the consequences or edge cases
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<jrobeson>
|jemc|, and the ideas are?
<jrobeson>
not that i will have a good response, but i think it might help other people get where you're trying to go with this
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<greenride>
Using the ruby debugger, is there a way to find a classes name if I have the id number?
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<onewheelskyward>
The id number?
<onewheelskyward>
What ruby debugger are you using?
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<greenride>
NameError Exception: undefined local variable or method `school_title' for #<#<Class:0x0000000c7fd580>:0x0000000c7f9458>.
<greenride>
onewheelskyward: That's my error message. I want to get more information about <Class:0x0000000c7fd580>.
<onewheelskyward>
yeah that's not a lot of info at all
<sevenseacat>
well if you have a debugger, cant you just reference that variable directly?
<sevenseacat>
assuming that object is in a variable
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<greenride>
sevenseacat: I get that error when calling a function.
<greenride>
from inside the debugger.
<sevenseacat>
and that function is....?
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<greenride>
It's a function in a Rails helper module.
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<sevenseacat>
youre not helping yourself here
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<greenride>
If the initial question I asked is not answerable, I need to create a simple piece of code illustrating the problem. I haven't done that.
<sevenseacat>
well your error is coming from you calling something like foo.school_title and foo not having the method school_title
<sevenseacat>
so just inspect foo and see what it is
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<greenride>
I get that error by putting <% debugger %> in my application.html.erb file. Then, when the debugger stops, I call the method school_title. This gives me the error.
<sevenseacat>
so you're calling school_title on self
<sevenseacat>
inspect self
<greenride>
thank you
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: well, one of the big decisions is I can't decide whether it is better to prevent the definitions from happening or to undo them later upon request
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<greenride>
sevenseacat: That was the answer I wanted. Thanks for figuring out the question and the answer.
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<sevenseacat>
np
<|jemc|>
jrobeson: for example, they could get defined when the user requires 'my_lib' and undefined when they require 'my_lib/clean'
<|jemc|>
jrobeson: but this is weird and a little scary
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: even if you take the care to alias existing methods before the define so that you could put them back in place later, it's still weird
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: the other option is that one would just require 'my_lib/clean' to start with, and it would load the 'clean' version of the lib
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: but then what is the defined behavior if later in the code 'my_lib' itself gets required? does it do nothing or does it load the extensions that weren't loaded before?
<jrobeson>
let's see.. you could use a factory
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: and what if 'my_lib' is required as a sub-require by some other lib that happens to get loaded before the user requires 'my_lib/clean'?
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<|jemc|>
jrobeson: use a factory to only include the extension methods in specific objects created through it?
<jrobeson>
well.. really.. without seeing the code. it's kinda hard for me to think it through.. since there are so many options
<|jemc|>
that particular approach won't work in this case, and defeats the 'convenience' of the extensions
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<jrobeson>
yeah.. it's pointless to ponder hypotheticals
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<jrobeson>
make it concrete please
<|jemc|>
sure
<jrobeson>
because otherwise i'll keep suggesting something.. and you'll say .. no i can't do that because X
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<|jemc|>
although its a hefty bit of context
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<|jemc|>
so, I originally had active_support/core_ext as a dependency, because I wanted to use the time syntax sugar they inject into Numeric
<|jemc|>
3.minutes.from_now
<|jemc|>
2.hours.ago
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<|jemc|>
but my lib has nothing to do with rails, and activesupport has a tendency to cause a bunch of other problems when not used in the environment it was created for
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<|jemc|>
by nature of it being so obtrusive
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<|jemc|>
(such as breaking use of the std json lib for many use cases)
<onewheelskyward>
yep.
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<onewheelskyward>
I've been running into that, too.
<s2013>
ruby sort method uses quicksort right?
<onewheelskyward>
I've been recreating the things that activesupport has but only the pieces of it I need.
<|jemc|>
and it's pretty difficult to untangle these time functions from the other parts of active_support/core_ext
<|jemc|>
yeah, exactly
<onewheelskyward>
For instance, titleize
<|jemc|>
I basically recreated the time methods in a lightweight way that stands alone
<|jemc|>
it's about 45 lines of code that only touches ::Time and ::Numeric
<onewheelskyward>
Yeah. Did you gem it?
<|jemc|>
no, I didn't
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<|jemc|>
I wasn't sure how much demand there would be
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<onewheelskyward>
You should do it. It's good practice. :)
<onewheelskyward>
Plus, should you need it on another project...
<|jemc|>
oh, I remember the other reason I didn't
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<|jemc|>
I actually built some other things into it that are only relevant to my lib
<onewheelskyward>
That's the other thing a gem would keep you from doing.
<onewheelskyward>
Build it generic.
<|jemc|>
well, if I did that, I'd end up overwriting the methods again for my lib
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<|jemc|>
basically, I made it so that ago/from_now/since/until will all accept an optional proc
<|jemc|>
which sends that proc into my event processing framework
<|jemc|>
giving syntax like '3.minutes.from_now do something_interesting end'
<onewheelskyward>
So make it a block and yield?
<|jemc|>
at which layer? and which problem are we trying to solve?
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<havenwood>
Just cherry-picking ActiveSupport's Time freedom patches is still too heavy?: require 'active_support/core_ext/numeric/time'
<|jemc|>
havenwood: unfortunately yes
<havenwood>
Oh, okay. I read on. >.> JSON breakage, kk.
<|jemc|>
even if it didn't, it's a big gem to have in your gemspec
<|jemc|>
anyway, my main issue is figuring out the cleanest way for a user to opt out of my core extensions
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<|jemc|>
especially because they duplicate (and probably cause problems with) these activesupport extensions
<havenwood>
make it a refinement and they can opt-in with `using`?
<|jemc|>
well, I'd rather make it an opt-out if possible, but I realize that that is the source of my real problems here
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<|jemc|>
I was hoping there was a common pattern for that sort of thing
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<|jemc|>
like perhaps setting a 'dont define those methods' flag
<|jemc|>
which could be wrapped inside of something like require 'my_lib/dont_touch_my_core'
<|jemc|>
then, as long as that's required before the main lib...
<|jemc|>
still weird though
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<|jemc|>
havenwood: thanks for the tip about refinements, though. hadn't encountered those yet and is good food for thought
<havenwood>
I like the idea of Clojure's `time` function for benchmarking. It evals the expr and prints the time it took, and returns the value of the expr.
<havenwood>
oh, it is PHP - then that makes sense!
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<havenwood>
?
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<beneggett>
2 PHP, one ruby, one random, haha
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<havenwood>
at least nothing lower than -1 stars
<havenwood>
here, i starred the Ruby one
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<havenwood>
now tomorrow it'll just be PHP :P
<havenwood>
aha, and unstarring it set it to 0
<havenwood>
now just three -1 starred repos on Github, my work for tonight is done... muahaha
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<|jemc|>
ha
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<|jemc|>
those poor repos
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<havenwood>
wonder how it happened?
<havenwood>
a mystery...
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<s2013>
anyone here?
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<sevenseacat>
no.
<onewheelskyward>
nope
<s2013>
ok cool. im just trying to practice some ruby programming so i was trying to do some math problems. im pasting one of the solutions i did but it looks way too big and inefficient so i was wondering if someone can tell me what i can do to make it better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6131278/
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<jrobeson>
s2013, why are you using for?
<jrobeson>
i think you sould reread the documention for methods like inject, select, and map
<s2013>
what should i use?
<s2013>
i mean it works. but im pretty sure its the shittiest way of doiong it
<jrobeson>
sounds like pretty well any ruby tutorial :)
<jrobeson>
exactly
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<jrobeson>
when i was picking up ruby myself, almost every tutorial recommended against using for() unless you have an actual reason to use it
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<sevenseacat>
i dont know why ruby has for tbh
<s2013>
yeah i didnt want to use for but im more comfortable with for cause of c++ so i rely back on it if i dont know what else to do
<jrobeson>
well if you do definintely want the scope outside of the for() .. then it's a comfortable way to use it
<s2013>
where is also while
<s2013>
there*
<jrobeson>
well go read more docs
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<s2013>
there is also 1..n-1.each do which i thought of using
<sevenseacat>
s2013: how about just n.times then ?
<krz>
how do i check if a date's day is a multiple of 3?
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<s2013>
yeah i forgot about that one. thats the one i was thinking about
<krz>
considering some months have 28 days
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<s2013>
so n.times do blah blah end right? i dont need to pass the |i| or whatever
<sevenseacat>
try it?
<s2013>
ok im going to try rewriting it and see how much more ruby like it gets.
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<sevenseacat>
yeah at the moment it isnt much like idiomatic ruby at all
<s2013>
as far as the converting summing all the digits, how would i do it different? i converted it to string, put them in an array and then converted them back into an integer. im pretty sure i messed up somewhere
* sevenseacat
trying to decide if its worth getting the MEAP of the 2nd ed of The Well-Grounded Rubyist
<radpanda>
ruby is the worst language ever
<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, so you liked the first one?
<radpanda>
what a piece of shit language
<radpanda>
>:[
<jrobeson>
oh noes.. not radpanda
<jrobeson>
he infected one of our other channels
<jrobeson>
we hadda ban him
<sevenseacat>
jrobeson: by the time i got it it was already out of date
<radpanda>
wat
<radpanda>
what channel did u ban me in
<jrobeson>
who cares
<s2013>
jrobeson: do you work as a ruby/rails dev?
<jrobeson>
s2013, uhmm.. that's hard to say
<radpanda>
i do
<radpanda>
that's why i asked
<jrobeson>
i am writing a rails app now.. for the first time.. because i got bored
<jrobeson>
well i dont'
<radpanda>
make sure ur mvc
<radpanda>
is appropiated to heroku
<radpanda>
and u r using git
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<radpanda>
OK BRO
<s2013>
oh.. i decided to finally look for a job after like 6 years. only to learn rails/ruby better. i got bunch of interviews which i passed the first round and now i got calls backs for the more technical interview and i have no idea what they will ask
<s2013>
i havent looked for a job in 6 years
<s2013>
and i forgot most of the basic cs stuff i learned back in college
<jrobeson>
s2013, i've worked as a web developer for many years though
<jrobeson>
and i've written apps for fun using sinatra
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<s2013>
i have about 5-6 years of experience with c++ and php but had a big gap where i ran my own company and stopped programming
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<jrobeson>
so i'm pretty familiar with reading ruby, and writing ruby.. just not as idiomatic as it could be
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<radpanda>
ur dumb
<jrobeson>
yep
<s2013>
i had to have a friend refresh some things such as sorting, data structures, etc. that i forgot about
<jrobeson>
well php sure does make hashes easy
<s2013>
but not sure what knid of questions they will ask. from mye xperience its usually questions that arent practical at all but more theoretical stuff
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<jrobeson>
s2013, perhaps you should run through the ruby koans
<jrobeson>
and rubymonk tutorial thingy
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<s2013>
yeah i should actualy do ruby koans. i did it partially when i started butnever did the whole thing
<jrobeson>
oh.. if you wanna learn about the more fancy stuff.. like seeing more examples lamdas, procs and blocks
<s2013>
there is also ruby tapas
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<jrobeson>
the codeschool ruby bits are pretty ok
<s2013>
yeah i think im going to go through the code school ruby stuff now. i did about half of it
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<s2013>
i met the guy who runs codeschool
<radpanda>
what code school ruby stuff?
<sevenseacat>
rubytapas is awesome.
<jrobeson>
go through part 1 and part 2 of ruby bits for sure s2013
<radpanda>
is that like a shitty code academy
<radpanda>
?
<s2013>
radpanda: its a bit diff
<s2013>
they teach you bits and pieces but some really solid tips
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<radpanda>
just the tips?
<s2013>
yes
<maasha>
Hey, if I in bash run a command 'script1.rb -e foo | script2rb -e bar' is there any way to catch that command from within script1.rb and script2.rb?
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<s2013>
anyone worked with ruby gtk?
<maasha>
One could get it from .bash_history
<maasha>
but I dont feel that is robust
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<s2013>
this company im interviewing for is a hardware company and they used ruby gtk to build the software that runs their hardware or something.
<jrobeson>
s2013, if i was doing stuff with gtk.. i wouldn't use ruby.. i'd use python
<jrobeson>
really? well tha'ts good to know that somebody is really using it in production
<s2013>
yeah he said they are going to switch it over to python as there were some issues
<s2013>
they used ruby gtk for their first version of the product
<jrobeson>
s2013, glad i wasn't incorrect about that
<maasha>
.bash_history is even buffered :o/
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<s2013>
whats pretty cool is that their entire gui is html5/js
<s2013>
for the touchscreen attached to their hardware
<jrobeson>
s2013, based on what i've seen and heard over the past 9 years when it comes to language bindings for toolkits
<jrobeson>
python is the one that is most active when it comes to the interprted languages
<jrobeson>
i likely run at least 4 or 5 of them daily that are based on pygtk
<jrobeson>
it's both actively maintained.. and put through the paces
<s2013>
i shouldve learned more python. i just learned enough to do some basic stuff but that was when i was choosing between django/rails
<s2013>
django didnt click with me
<sevenseacat>
python never clicked with me
<jrobeson>
redhat uses python a lot.. they tend to use python gtk for stuff they put in with gnome.. (if not straightt C)
<jrobeson>
which means lots of gnome stuff ends up being pygtk based (once again.. if not C)
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<s2013>
so someone asked me about scaling a rails app. what are some tips/tricks to do that? would it be like utilizing redis is one of the things to do?
<jrobeson>
i'd never personally use gtk myself.. if it wsn't about gnome
<jrobeson>
qt is just better
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<jrobeson>
if qt wouldn't have been so badly licensed in the beginning.. i bet that gtk wouldn't even exist like it does
<sevenseacat>
s2013: you do realize there are entire books on that subject right
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<sevenseacat>
its not just a 'heres a cool trick'
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<s2013>
yeah im sure
<s2013>
i didnt say one cool trick woul help scale an entire app. im just asking for some more common basic things
<s2013>
if there is any
<sevenseacat>
if you walked into an interview and answered the question like that, well
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<s2013>
and its more a curiosity thing. nah it wasnt part of an interview and i dont think anyone would ask me that.
<jrobeson>
there is a rails guide for caching
<jrobeson>
iirc
<s2013>
since i told everyone im a complete newb
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<jrobeson>
s2013, if you wanna learn about scaling.. i wouldn't recommend being restricted to rails
<jrobeson>
when searching
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<jrobeson>
most of the stuff you do applies to all of them
<s2013>
true
<jrobeson>
then look up the rails way to do it
<s2013>
i remember when i had an old site that was slowing down ridiculously. we had to just get more servers to handle the mysql db alone
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<jrobeson>
page caching, database query caching, memcached, redis, proxies, cdns.. asset caching, esi, the list is pretty huge
<s2013>
thanks. thats all i was looking for
<jrobeson>
the techniques , and the things you use to implement them.. are quite wide ranging..
<sevenseacat>
s2013: please credit jrobeson when you answer that one
<s2013>
well i dont think anyone will actually ask me that
<s2013>
and if they did ill tell them that they have the wrong person
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<jrobeson>
s2013, i mixed up implementation stuff with the overall thing.. i wouldn't really consider it a good answer
<s2013>
jrobeson: its fine dude. it was more of a curiosity thing than anything else
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<jrobeson>
s2013, just try not to be a rails dev if you can ..
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<jrobeson>
be a dev that can write rails apps :)
<sevenseacat>
nothing wrong with being a rails dev
<s2013>
to be honest im mainly learning rails so i can build my own apps for the future
<s2013>
i couldve written them in php but meh
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<s2013>
or i could get my employees to write it but i rather write stuff on my own
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<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, i'd prefer to hire somebody who wasn't just a php dev, or a ruby dev.. or a $framework dev .
<jrobeson>
just a dev who can do those things
<s2013>
yeah i agree jrobeson
<sevenseacat>
jrobeson: that doesnt mean thats the only frmaeowkr you can use
<sevenseacat>
*framework
<s2013>
once you get the basics down rest is just syntaxes and its not too hard to switch to another lang/framework
<sevenseacat>
i work as a rails dev
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<s2013>
does google have a big presence in australia?
<jrobeson>
ah i was suggesting that you're a dev who can do rails ..
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<jrobeson>
s2013, well as you can see.. you can certainly achieve something using the same techniques as in other languages (like using for()) before
<s2013>
what i find funny is that some companies who are just startups wants someone with 7+ years of rails experience...
<jrobeson>
i want 10000 years rails experience
<sevenseacat>
very few people out there have 7+ years of rails experience
<s2013>
i think there are a handful of people who have 7+ years of experience
<jrobeson>
i think if i hire a pereson to do rails ever.. i'm gonna ask them .. what's your opinion of the mvc architecture in rails
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<s2013>
what is yours?
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<jrobeson>
s2013, it works.. but i don't like it :)
<jrobeson>
it feels like php apps i wrote back in 2002
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<s2013>
does it?
<sevenseacat>
lolwat
<s2013>
well most php frameworks are based off rails
<jrobeson>
thinsg like the routing are more advanced obviously
<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, i said.. i wrote.. not everybody wrote :)
<jrobeson>
well me and my friends anyways
<jrobeson>
not what you saw in tutorials :)
<s2013>
did you use mysql()?
<jrobeson>
no
<s2013>
did they have pdo back then?
<s2013>
or some other orm
<sevenseacat>
you were writing code like rails back when php only had fledgeling and buggy OO support?
<jrobeson>
i mean .. we used the lib ..
<jrobeson>
but with a wrapper
<s2013>
i see
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<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, we only had an actual object for the db wrapper
<jrobeson>
it wasn't a proper ORM, but it did handle problems that people still have to deal with today
<sevenseacat>
so.. you really werent using anything like mvc at all
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<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, uhmm you can do mvc just fine without classes
<jrobeson>
i would say it was OO.. just not with classes..
<jrobeson>
in the same way glib is object oriented.. but in C
<sevenseacat>
i see
<sam113101>
using php structs and function pointers?
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<xybre>
Ruby is written in C...
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<jrobeson>
it was very convetnion based.. a single function per file like module/$modName/$apiType/$controllerAction with a function like $modname_$apiType_$action
<jrobeson>
quite verbose
<jrobeson>
but it did work
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<jrobeson>
the router would just determine the controller, and module based on query parameters and then call that function (sanitized and cleaned up)
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<jrobeson>
and that would return the view parameters that got passed to the template
<jrobeson>
that sounds mvc to me.
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<jrobeson>
if not such function existed, it would render the view as a standalone template if a file existed that followed the functions
<jrobeson>
followed that convention*
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<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, how is that not mvc?
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<jrobeson>
i skipped over the model part.. but it's basically just a table mapper to columns..
<jrobeson>
using a hash
<sevenseacat>
i didnt say it wasnt, but that also has zero resemblance to rails
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<jrobeson>
i didn't say it did
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<sevenseacat>
'mvc in rails feels like php apps i wrote in 2002'
<xybre>
Rails isn't actually MVC though
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<jrobeson>
sevenseacat, on my own.. apps at the time. when learning. i didn't keep such a tight reign on my view parameters
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<jrobeson>
and did something like how the instance variables were send to the controllers.. as rails does
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<jrobeson>
err sent from the controllers to the view*
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<jrobeson>
although using actual objects for it is certainly cleaner.. the equivalent without objects in php at the time was using globals with prefixes
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
how are my favorite people this eve... er.. morning?
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<r0bglees0n>
xybre: its not?
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<xybre>
r0bglees0n: No. Rails used to call it "web MVC". And I think its an itneresting pattern, but it leaves poor separation of concerns.
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<r0bglees0n>
xybre: go on
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<xybre>
What do you want to know?
<r0bglees0n>
what part of the mvc pattern does rails break?
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<r0bglees0n>
its obviously adjusted to the web
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<jrobeson>
r0bglees0n, i consider the controller instance vars being used in the views by default as broken
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<jrobeson>
obviously one can go other routes.. as per recent interest in stuff like draper and other presenters
<r0bglees0n>
jrobeson: not a requirement, you dont have to do that, you can pass local state
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<jrobeson>
r0bglees0n, i know the problem is that's not what people do :)
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<jrobeson>
perhaps it's better to say.. broken by default
<r0bglees0n>
it probably encourages that pattern, hardly a deal breaker though
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<jrobeson>
it's not a deal breaker.. after all i'm still using rails
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<jrobeson>
but it does breakt he separation of concerns
<jrobeson>
r0bglees0n, also the fact that the controller after_filter .. runs after the view
<jrobeson>
and there's no render_view filter
<xybre>
Well. All of them. Controllers only supposed to handle user input. Views are supposed to be objects that construct the data for user consumption while in Rails they are only templates and we had to start using a new word for the same concept (facade, draper, presenter). The models pack pretty much half a dozen different patterns into a single object that bears little similarity to a model in MVC or in the
<r0bglees0n>
the scopes aren't actually shared though
<xybre>
standard patterns catalog.
<jrobeson>
so it even enforces the brokeness that way
<r0bglees0n>
the instance variable state is copied into a view scope
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<jrobeson>
i know i was under the assumption that the controller after filter would in fact run after the controller, but before the view.. boy was i suprised when it didn't :(
<jrobeson>
even though it can be fixed by adding your own render_view filter.. it feels more broken that it works that way out of the box
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<jrobeson>
after_filter is more appropriately called .. after_view_filter or something
<jrobeson>
not good naming obviously there.
<r0bglees0n>
xybre: a pattern doesn't have to stay static, a controller is suppose to listen for events, in the context of rails that's a HTTP request. views render data for consumption by a *client*, not a user. you can't not adjust the pattern or expand on it as the world changes. also, it still does all of that, at a more abstract level. "user" is not defined so well. anyway, rails is not perfect, but i dont think its a
<r0bglees0n>
fair statement
<xybre>
Hey if you like it, thats fine.
<xybre>
Its jsut silly to call it MVC when its not.
<r0bglees0n>
i dont disagree that MVC was a well established pattern
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<r0bglees0n>
but we're discussing your opinion, i could read that article, but then im not talking to you
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<xybre>
I can redefine black as white if it suits me. If I start calling black white and get enough people to agree then it doesn't matter what people before me said, at least as long as I never talk to anyone outside of my clique.
<xybre>
The usefulness of language is having a common reference point.
<r0bglees0n>
well, actually, rails does everything you said it doesn't, except "user" is not defined as a person sitting on a chair interacting with a GUI, as MVC was described
<r0bglees0n>
so you have to adjust for the context(web)
<xybre>
If you think so, than thats fine.
<jrobeson>
i think that guys definition is more rigid than is used by any software i've used
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<jrobeson>
i think common parlance has won out over the strict/original definition here
<xybre>
If you ever communicate with people outside of the Ruby world, they will have different definitions for many of the terms you are familiar with.
<xybre>
And the Ruby community is wide, but not nearly as wide as all that.
<r0bglees0n>
uh, MVC in cocoa is not MVC in Rails is not MVC in Windows Mobile. the contexts are different.
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<r0bglees0n>
the abstract definitions are sound, though
<xybre>
Okay :)
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<geek998>
I'm having some trouble figuring out how to write regex for this http://pastebin.com/z4tqNEWi . I want to grab the email and the phone numbers from this tag
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<YaNakilon>
//
<YaNakilon>
should match
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<havenwood>
lessless_: There, monkey patched Array#+ to do what you were thinking. :P
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
do you guys use ruby for almost all of your scripting needs or do any of you still use sh? :x
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
shell syntax makes me want to stab my eyes out. But ruby is so purdy
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<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables I use ruby whenever possible
<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables on a freshly installed linux system, there may not be ruby installed, so I need shell scripts in order to bootstrap ruby with all my modifications, projects etc...
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
shevy: ever feel the need to use something more low-level like C?
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<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables I think so, in the long run I think one must combine ruby with something else, be it C C++ C# java
<shevy>
or perhaps rails :P
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
I'm working on improving my C along with my Ruby. The low-level C stuff is great if for no other reason than to show you how all this crazy stuff is implemented. Though I know most of it is different in ruby
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
It seems like so many people dive right into rails without really learning ruby and it's core library. I'd rather get that down first before I put even more stuff on my plate
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<jrhe>
I have never really needed anything else for scripting other than ruby after learning it. I don't really want to program in C or C++ again
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<rdark>
Suit_Of_Sables: bash for tiny glue things, ruby for most things, perl for certain edge cases
<rdark>
would like to get to know go a little better though
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<shevy>
when I invoke a method in ruby, can I name this doing a "method call"?
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<jrhe>
Don't bother with bash if you can. zsh is so much more palatable for scripting
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<jrhe>
shevy: Why not?
<rdark>
jrhe: bash v4 has 95% of the stuff that zsh does (associative arrays, more advanced string replacement) but agree that zsh is probably the superior shell
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<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables yeah, right now I wonder what to do ... C or rails ... or perhaps Java (yuck) ... or C++ .... thing is, with C I could start to help with ruby-gnome bindings, so it would benefit me when I extend my GUI things in ruby
<rdark>
but then again if you're doing that stuff in a shell language, you're probably doing it wrong
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<jrhe>
rdark: Agreed but bash have kinda hacked it on. Yup, probably doing it wrong.
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<shevy>
jrhe no, just curious. I am commenting my code, and there are things like: x = main_url ... and it is not instantly obvious that main_url is actually a "method call" main_url(), so I explained that, and why I use it. I just puzzled over my old comment there, that it is a "method call" (if that is the proper wording...)
<workmad3>
shevy: sounds like your method is too long, so you can't see what your local vars are :P
<Suit_Of_Sables>
shevy: My vote would be for C. I'm enjoying it more than java, and you can always move onto C++ after as it is (mostly) a superset of C.
<shevy>
workmad3 both methods have 3 lines content
<workmad3>
shevy: so you're in a context that it's instantly obvious has no 'main_url' local variable?
<shevy>
no, that is never the case, I always wonder when I see x = y stuff
<shevy>
I could use x = y() but that looks ugly
<workmad3>
shevy: hmm, I never find myself wondering unless it's a long method
<Suit_Of_Sables>
wouldn't just adding the much maligned parens make it obvious it was a method and take up less space then a comment? :p
<jrhe>
shevy: Method call is fine. Instances of the Method class have a call method so that wording makes perfect sense to me. The documentation of the Method#call method even uses the word invoke. I'd say they are interchangeable. http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0.0/Method.html#method-i-call
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<shevy>
workmad3 perhaps you have a much better brain :D
<workmad3>
shevy: I wouldn't comment it with # method call though
<workmad3>
shevy: as Suit_Of_Sables said, it would be less ugly in that case to just use ()
<shevy>
hmmmmm
<workmad3>
shevy: especially if you comment it with '# method call main_url()
<shevy>
true
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
sorry to be off topic with the scripting stuff but here is a dumb question for the books: Are bash, zsh, and shell all different languages? or are the first to just implementations of shell?
<Suit_Of_Sables>
I always see "oh use sh" but not bash or zsh specifically
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<geek998>
ahoi
<tobiasvl>
what's "shell"
<rdark>
Suit_Of_Sables: sh is the bourne shell
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<tobiasvl>
ah, sh
<geek998>
I'm having some trouble figuring out how to write regex for this http://pastebin.com/z4tqNEWi . I want to grab the email and the phone numbers from this tag
<Suit_Of_Sables>
rdark: ahh so they are all different languages
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: They have a common subset of features and then implement their own stuff on top.
<rdark>
bash and I think zsh has a lineage going back to bourne
<Suit_Of_Sables>
jrhe: ah, so they all build off of sh
<tobiasvl>
geek998: just from that specific tag? or do you want to be able to pick out any e-mail address
<rdark>
or maybe zsh comes from korn?
<tobiasvl>
that's not easy
<rdark>
but anyway, it's all unix history
<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables I think there are compatible up to a certain degree
<shevy>
*they
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Pretty much, which is why people say write in sh, as its portable
<Suit_Of_Sables>
ok, most books I'm seeing on "shell scripting" seem to actually be about bash scripting
<tobiasvl>
yes
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Yup. Or sh using bash…
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<shevy>
geek998 did you try with any regex so far? what you could first do is strip away all those html tags if you dont need them, the other part is to simply match after your keywords
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
I know all the super cool people who use, tmux, vim, and tiling windows managers use zsh as their shell. Trouble is most systems have bash built in. but I wanna be cool too....
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<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Then get zsh :p
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: With prezto
<rdark>
Suit_Of_Sables: apt-get install zsh?
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<shevy>
geek998, if it is always invariant, this gets Mobile x.scan(/Mobile - (.+) Email/)[0].first # => "+91 324 878 994" I am sure you can build up the other parts too using that regex
<Suit_Of_Sables>
all the girls at the bar will ignore me if they find out I use bash!
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<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables I use bash
<Suit_Of_Sables>
*sob*
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
I'm sure they are similar enough that using one gives you more than a head start on learning the other
<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables zsh does not seem to be like you need to use it, I use a shell mostly to navigate to directories (but I use my aliases for my own directories), or to invoke ruby scripts/methods anyway
<shevy>
Suit_Of_Sables most people start with bash
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Just grab zsh and don't look back. prezto will get you off to a flying start
<shevy>
the lazy ones stay with bash
<geek998>
shevy, well the thing is . this string is dynmic
<geek998>
its a like description
<jrhe>
worth it for the syntax highlighting alone
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<Suit_Of_Sables>
someone in my C class the other day asked "Why does the first item in that array have an index of 0?"... I wish there was a lever I could have pulled to drop him into a snake pit.
<rdark>
jrhe: pretzo looks interesting - might have to give it a spin
<geek998>
what ever in the the tag can be changed . so I want to grab the email and the phone numbers if they are in side the html tag
<shevy>
geek998 then you need a better regex I guess, so that you are able to match to all possibilities of the string. that is never too simple, what I would do is write a method, and pass the string through, and inside the method, handle all those corner cases
<shevy>
geek998 yep, sounds as if you must use a method
<jrhe>
rdark: Its a rewrite of oh-my-zsh but much more performant and better maintained
<geek998>
shevy, method is not my problem . my problem is the regex
<Suit_Of_Sables>
jrhe: I've already started using vim and it is amazing. but I'm having trouble getting tmux working on.. OSX....
<jrhe>
rdark: The plugins it gives you are epic. I wouldn't use anything else now. Although things do get slow sometimes (autocompleting rake on a big rails project for example)
<Suit_Of_Sables>
jrhe: I use macports to install it and that worked alright. But it crashes right after it starts... Hmm I should look into iTerm2. Looks like it comes with tmux installed....
<jrhe>
I have no probs with brew
<geek998>
even thats not right
<shevy>
geek998 what about my regex above?
<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Nah it doesn't
<shevy>
.scan(/Mobile - (.+) Email/)[0].first
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<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: It has support for it but I wouldnt recommend using its tmux support
<shevy>
geek998 btw
<shevy>
geek998 you use .gsub! on an assignment
<Suit_Of_Sables>
jrhe: *gasp* than nettuts lied to me!
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<shevy>
geek998 you know that methods with a ! at the end often change the reciever?
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<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: Seems stupid for your terminal emulator to be adding to your path too...
<shevy>
geek998 you also dont need the trailing ';' character
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<jrhe>
Suit_Of_Sables: This guy kinda has the same feelings as me to the integration
<shevy>
it did not? geek998 the array that results from your code is: ["91665865753", "324", "994"]
<workmad3>
geek998: or the non-mutating 'filtered_ary = ary.reject{...}' (block is the same)
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<workmad3>
shevy: look at the block in .each... he's trying to remove numbers that are < 10 digits in length ;)
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<shevy>
I cant make sense of it anyway
<workmad3>
deleting while iterating over an array is tricky
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
why does Array have #drop but no #drop!
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<geek998>
it worked workmad3 thanks
<workmad3>
shevy: it also has delete but not delete!... and probably for the same reason
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<workmad3>
shevy: because if you delete an item from an array, it doesn't really make sense for there to be 2 versions... so there's no need for a 'normal version' and a 'this version does some things differently, be careful' version
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<avril14th>
it it possible to define a unary operator (such as minus) that takes args?
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<tobiasvl>
of course. all unary operators take args (that is, ONE argument)
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<Veejay>
Hello everyone, how can I dynamically set a constant? i.e. after YAML.load'in a .yml file I end up with a KEY => value hash, and I'd like to create the constants for all the keys, associated to their values
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<Veejay>
If I do that inside a module, using const_set works just fine and creates the appropriate module constants. I just need to know how to do the same thing without the module part
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<avril14th>
anonymous Module then ?
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<Veejay>
avril14th: To be more precise (and maybe I should actually ask that question there) I call that code inside the context of a Rails initializer
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<CraftyCoder>
/join #couchdb
<Veejay>
And I'd like the constant to be defined inside the application itself
<CraftyCoder>
\join #couchdb
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<avril14th>
FAIL
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<Sp4rKy>
§wg #archlinux-fr
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<Rydekull>
Hmm, im looking for 'the way' to bundle ruby and required libs together in a nice .exe that I can spread onto other hosts. Any suggestions?
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<Rydekull>
is OCRA the way to go, or is there something that is better?
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<avril14th>
Veejay: Don't know about that (sorry afaik)
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<negaduck>
hi! i'm trying to install ruby 1.9.3 on rhel 5.9 without internet. I don't need rvm. Are ruby gems bundled with ruby?
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<shevy>
negaduck "gem" is a ruby script
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<shevy>
negaduck since ruby 1.9.x and upwards, it is by default "bundled" with the source tarball
<negaduck>
shevy: ok, thanks
<shevy>
negaduck so on a sane system, or if you self-compiled from source, "gem" on the commandline will work. some distributions might remove stuff though, so you can never be sure
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<shevy>
but I think, I am quite sure that rhel's ruby will come with gem installed
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<shevy>
if it has a live cd, I am sure you can test. "gem install rack" to install i.e. the rack gem should work etc.., good luck!
<negaduck>
how to get nokogiri installed? Is there an rpm or should i build it from source?
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<negaduck>
given dependencies (libxml2, libxslt) installed
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<sevenseacat>
gem install nokogiri? :)
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<negaduck>
sevenseacat: i don't have internet connection
<sevenseacat>
how are you here then?
<momomomomo>
~~~~~
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<negaduck>
i use mac and connect to the remote machine via ssh
<sevenseacat>
download the .gem file and scp it to your remote machine then
<Todd>
morning sirs
<Todd>
( and ladies? ) *duck*
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<momomomomo>
git clone locally, and negaduck - scp ./nokogiri user@MYIPADDRESS:~/install/
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* sevenseacat
nods at Todd
<negaduck>
ok, thanks
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<momomomomo>
morning Todd
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<pontiki>
i am not a lady duck
<pontiki>
just a lady mouse
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<Veejay>
avril14th: No worries, I'll probably find a solution, it's probably something trivial anyway
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<pontiki>
Veejay: if you want them in the "root", so to speak, you can do self.class.cons_set
<pontiki>
self.class should be Object
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<pontiki>
although it might be nicer to actually put them in a namespace
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<pontiki>
MyApp.cons_set, forexample
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<pontiki>
.const_set, sorry
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<Veejay>
pontiki: Yeah, that's what I'm doing
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<Veejay>
Defining a module Credentials; YAML.load_file(...).each {|k,v| self.const_set(k,v)}; end
<Veejay>
And that works fine
<Veejay>
But I was wondering if I could get away with not having the module Credentials there
<pontiki>
on one project, someone created a class with huge long method names that basically just returned constants loaded from a YAML file -- seemed a bit overwrought
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<rdark>
negaduck: or you could use bundler, if it's a specific thing you want to get working - like: bundle install --path /to/my/gems
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<pontiki>
you can use Object, as i said
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<pontiki>
or you can use you application module, which i thought was better
<rdark>
(presuming you have a Gemfile to work with)
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<Veejay>
Ah the Application module... Indeed, that seems like a good idea
<momomomomo>
rdark: You know negaduck 's issue stemmed from not having an internet connection, right?
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<momomomomo>
bundler could be used, if in the gemfile each gem directs to the local dir
<rdark>
momomomomo: I meant on the build machine, then move the libs over once installed to a dir
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<avril14th>
what's the stupidest way to count rub lines in a RoR project folders?
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<sevenseacat>
iterate through each of the files in the folder and count the newline characters? >_>
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<hoelzro>
ack --ruby -f | xargs wc -l?
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<godd2>
Okay first you hire a psychic.
<sevenseacat>
haha
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<godd2>
THen you commission them to put on an elephant circus
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<godd2>
Make sure the elephant watches you code, since they never forget
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<Veejay>
heh
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<lessless_>
will be attr_reader inhereted from the parent class?
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<hoelzro>
yes
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<grits>
I have a Module 'A' which has a submodule 'a'. I also have a module 'B' which has a submodule 'b'. I'm trying to access 'a' from 'b'. In 'b' I have required 'A::a' and included it as well. I reference it in the code by AA::aa.method However, when it runs I get 'Uninitialized constant AA::aa::BB::bb'. Can anyone help me figure out why it's adding the current name space?
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<MrZYX>
first of all modules should be assigned to constants and constants should start with an upper case character
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<MrZYX>
then please post a minimal example illustrating your problem to gist.github.com
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<mordocai>
Hello! I am using Open3.popen3 in order to run a system command. I think have a while loop with wait_thread.status as the condition. The issue we are running into is that if command ends up starting a service (debian linux, so an /etc/init.d/ script) then the thread just sleeps forever. It also appears that the loop blocks (i was printing out wait_thread.status every loop iteration and that stopped outputting).
<mordocai>
Any idea how to fix this kind of error?
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<mordocai>
s/I think have/I have/
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<wuest>
mordocai: have you considered making use of SIGCHLD? Unix daemons generally will fork the service and exit.
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<gour>
ruby noob here...i'd like to locally install few gems (sass/compass/...), but my 'gem env' show that /var/lib/gems takes precedence ovwer the local ~/.gem/ directory. what is the easiest way to override that without using rvm/rbenv etc.?
<gour>
should i set something in ~/.gemrc or just have to set some envars?
<burlyscudd>
gour: why are you avoiding RVM?
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<segfalt1>
honestly, use rvm.
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<segfalt1>
unless you have some excellent reason why not to
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<platzhirsch>
It is an urban myth that RVM is PITA
<gour>
burlyscudd: i use debian and there must be reason it's not packaged
<burlyscudd>
gour: bwahahahahahahahahahahah
<gour>
:-)
<burlyscudd>
you have just made my morning w/ your hilarious joke
<gour>
i'm glad to make you smile ;)
<burlyscudd>
gour: is it the same reason that Debian wouldn't package any Ruby > 1.8.6 for **years**?
<platzhirsch>
I heard the debian package requirements are PITA, too. So many just avoid it, but it's an interesting question anyway
<burlyscudd>
b/c I've been scratching my head about that for a long time
<segfalt>
gour: rvm is managed in your home directory, it's not typically installed system wide.
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<segfalt>
also debian.
<gour>
honestly, probably no need for many gems...just looking for some simple solution
<gour>
burlyscudd: gem install somegem gives: You don't have write permissions into the /var/lib/gems/1.9.1 directory., so i want to override that system dir with a user one
<havenwood>
gour: sudo
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<gour>
havenwood: i want to install gems locally, not system-wide
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<havenwood>
gour: Debian disagrees.
<burlyscudd>
gour: once again, RVM has you covered...
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<gour>
with python i'd just use virtualenv
<segfalt>
...
<segfalt>
virtualenv is to python as ____ is to ruby
<havenwood>
gour: And with Ruby you'd just use chruby... or RVM... or rbenv...
<gour>
you want to say that on debian one can't install gem locally?
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<gour>
havenwood: which one is the simplest one? i read some post about rvm --> rbenv...
<segfalt>
you can install a gem locally given a tool that sets the environment up properly. if you really feel adventurous you could download and extract the gem and set RUBYLIB
<burlyscudd>
gour: rvm is the simplest one
<havenwood>
burlyscudd: not really
<burlyscudd>
gour: you can install a gem anywhere you want
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<gour>
the machine serves for production as well as for dev, so i don't want to create too much mess...on fbsd, 'd simply use jail
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<burlyscudd>
gour: sounds like, you want something that sequesters the interpreter and the gems to YOUR user, which rvm does for you
<segfalt>
I don't know if ancient debian supports it, but check out Docker.
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<burlyscudd>
havenwood: idk chruby — i've tried rbenv when it first came out and didn't see the point, other than that it's 37Signals-originated so we must all fall to our knees and worship
<gour>
burlyscudd: well, interpreter is not critical, i can use system one, just to separate gems
<havenwood>
gour: RVM is the most feature-full, is friendly for beginners, and is quite a complex behemoth. The simplest is chruby, at ~100 lines of code to read and only doing the Ruby switching. If you ware a shim lover, rbenv.
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<Ox6abe>
Anyone have experience calling leiningen from a rakefile ?
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<havenwood>
Ox6abe: might try #clojure, maybe more have raked lein there?
<Ox6abe>
ok thanks havenwood
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<havenwood>
burlyscudd: hehe, yeah they came it with a lot of dramz with rbenv, then kinda faded away
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<havenwood>
burlyscudd: I guess rbenv shims are nice if you're using some weird shell outside of the bash/zsh/mksh family.
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<burlyscudd>
havenwood: that whle thing really pissed me off — wayne did a ton of awesome work on RVM and solved a problem that drove lots of people fucking crazy, then a bunch of Rubytards take to the internet to talk about how much RVM sucks…? what a bunch of ingrates.
<havenwood>
burlyscudd: There is a mksh branch of chruby, a fish fork, and zsh and bash are supported, so that covers my bases.
<burlyscudd>
havenwood: I care more about gemsets than anything else
<burlyscudd>
keeping deps sequestered == win for me
* gour
uses fish shell
<burlyscudd>
i don't use that many rubies, tbh
<havenwood>
burlyscudd: Yeah, that was lame. Awesome open source programmer with a much-loved and much-used tool getting flamed is sad.
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<mva>
hello there (again)!
<gour>
for now i just used: gem install -i and it did what i need(ed) :-)
<gour>
havenwood: thanks...have it opened in my ff tab
<havenwood>
gour: (Needed to be forked to port tests to fish.)
<burlyscudd>
havenwood: it's a sad thing w/ FOSS in general — a bunch of dbags take to Twitter to rip on a guy that gave something super-useful away for free.
<mva>
advice me, please, is it any examples how to migrate from rb_thread_select to rb_thread_fd_select (or whatever it should be)?
<burlyscudd>
this pattern happens too often, IMO
<havenwood>
burlyscudd: chruby has a really good relationship with RVM btw, heck RVM even support a chruby mini-mode: https://rvm.io/workflow/chruby
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<havenwood>
burlyscudd: and we share even a bit of code and brainshare :D
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<gour>
havenwood: so, no fish support atm?
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<havenwood>
gour: No fish support in chruby. Unfortunately fish is too different from posixy shells to be supported with the same code. The fish fork should support fish though.
<avril14th>
Hmmm. I have a class with a minus defined both as unary operator and binary operator. Things get mixed up, anything I can do ?!
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<gour>
havenwood: i'm just reading about fish & rvm...today i installed beta of ocaml' package manager which brings fish support, so it's nice to see that fisk is getting used more ;)
<MrZYX>
avril14th: minimal example reproducing your problem?
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<avril14th>
MrZYX: sure, let me gist
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<gour>
havenwood: is that 'fish fork' already in progress or just hypothetical?
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<avril14th>
so what is the relationship with - here?
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<bean>
can you pastebin the code
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<avril14th>
I'll crawl some more
<avril14th>
code is fat
<avril14th>
try to narrow it
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<bean>
yeah, i'm not convinced that it's dying where you think it is.
<avril14th>
well I breakpoint the .dup
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<moosya>
sorry for not posting in the appropriate forum but I'm not getting any responses in "#rvm". Anyway, I just tried to use "rvm install <blah>" and I noticed that it uses rpm and requires write access to /var/lib/rpm. Is it possible to avoid this? The last time I used rvm (approx 1 year ago) it did not seem to do this
<bean>
heh
<avril14th>
anyway, let me try some more
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<linduxed>
hey guys, i was wondering if there's a need to add "rescue nil" at the end of lines which might turn out to be nil?
<linduxed>
or well, under what circumstances might that be necessary?
<avril14th>
bean: I breakpoint the .dup and the next line. it gets to .dup and not to the next line :)
<bean>
so, since .dup does a shallow copy it's probably trying to reinstantiate the object.
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<bean>
is there something with - in your constructor
<avril14th>
linduxed: "lines" ? what are you trying to do, code returning nil?
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<avril14th>
bean: I have no constructor defined here. Price is a Mongoid::Document
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<avril14th>
linduxed: +handling
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<linduxed>
avril14th: i just figured it out on my own. it turns out that this method raises an exception when it returns a nil
<linduxed>
so that explains the situation
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<avril14th>
well, can it return and raise at the same time?
<avril14th>
(!)
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<apeiros>
a method can't return and raise, no
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* avril14th
thought so
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<apeiros>
raise doesn't hand control back to the calling site either.
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<apeiros>
so you couldn't "accept" a return value in case of raise anyway
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<avril14th>
bean: found the bug. I has an object of a wrong type being generated somewhere. Now, I still don't get why the breakpoint fails at .dup :/ but problem solved, thanks a lot it's friday evening, i need it :)
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<bean>
I'm just sitting at StrangeLoop listening to a talk :P
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<avril14th>
linduxed: this will raise RecordNotFound error
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<avril14th>
if rails is configured so and record can't be found
<linduxed>
yeah, that's probably the case
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<avril14th>
if you want to handle that you can put the find call in a begin / rescue block
<avril14th>
or play with a side method such as find_or_create or whatever
<avril14th>
depending on your need
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<linduxed>
ok thx
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<roob_noob>
Hello, guys I hate that I am asking such a simple question, but I cant figure out to how do a negative test. I want to check if params is not of type array... I know how to params.is_a? but cant figure out the syntax for !=
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<MrZYX>
unless params.is_a? Array or if !params.is_a? Array
<momomomomo>
if !params.is_a?(Array) roob_noob
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<roob_noob>
so just adding the bang to the front, I feel dumb
<roob_noob>
thanks
<MrZYX>
or using unless, yeah
<momomomomo>
roob_noob: don't feel dumb
<momomomomo>
you could also use 'and not'
<momomomomo>
gross
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<segfalt>
you can do something nice with unless that makes it very readable:
<|jemc|>
I'd just google around a bit; it's what I would do if I were trying to help you find a link. If you have specific questions you can ask them here as well.
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<BraddPitt>
yeah, found a pretty good explanation
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<BraddPitt>
if i have File A in my top level directory and File B in a subdir, should my require in File A look like ``require `/subdir/File_B'?
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<srji>
but i only get the first key
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<MrZYX>
BraddPitt: the most common pattern is to have lib as toplevel directory for all code beyond small scripts booting your application, then adding that to the load path. you'd then do require 'app' to load lib/app.rb and require 'app/foo' to load lib/app/foo.rb, regardless where you write the require
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<BraddPitt>
awesome, thank you MrZYX
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<MrZYX>
srji: data.events.each do |year, data| data.each do |name, race|
<Stalkr^>
Hey all, reading through 'Learn to Program' at the moment, great book. I want to get into some web development (sinatra in the beginning or maybe dive straight into RoR). What resources do you recommend after Learn to Program?
<Stalkr^>
Continue with Ruby or start web development?
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<MrZYX>
sinatra is simple enough to do both at the same time
<MrZYX>
the most important thing is to thing of a small project you'd like to solve
<srji>
ty MrZYX, i will try it
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<MrZYX>
Stalkr^: if you have a goal and the basics of the language learn what you need to achieve your goal
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<Stalkr^>
MrZYX: I have a simple CRUD idea
<Stalkr^>
Could always start with a todo list or something
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<|jemc|>
Stalkr^ is this your first language?
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<MrZYX>
Stalkr^: sure, ideally something you'd use regularly. if you have some receptive task you find to do often looking into writing a script to automate that at least partially usually yields nice to learn projects too
<Stalkr^>
|jemc|: kind of, I have a Java course at school
<Stalkr^>
That's my first I guess, but they are both pretty new to me. Less than 2 - 4 weeks
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<|jemc|>
my recommendation is to put off web development (or any UI development) until you have a firm grasp on programming for the shell/console
<Stalkr^>
So keep doing small Ruby stuff after reading the book?
<srji>
MrZYX: when i try data.each do |name, race| i got an "undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass"
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: I'm late to the convo, but if you're doing Java in class definitely check out JRuby. :)
<|jemc|>
if you want to go off an learn rails right now you probably could, but if you lack the fundamentals you would likely depend on rails as a crutch and never really be a "real" programmer
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<Stalkr^>
havenwood: Even though I dislike Java?
<|jemc|>
and that's okay for some people, if they only ever want to do rails
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<MrZYX>
srji: then data.events isn't the yaml structure you presented
<MrZYX>
or there are more alternations to it
<Stalkr^>
|jemc|: Definitely want to be a developer/programmer/coder etc, doing other stuff than Rails
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Well, you could write your class code in JRuby and make jars to turn in for your Java classes. >.>
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<Stalkr^>
havenwood: Is JRuby just Ruby that compiles into Java?
<havenwood>
Red Bridge is pretty nifty with JRuby too.
<|jemc|>
yeah, so ad MrZYX said, try to work on scripts that make your life easier
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Ruby that runs on the JVM. Really nice implementation.
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<MrZYX>
Stalkr^: |jemc| I see no problem with starting out with something minimalistic such as sinatra, it's more important to be passionate about your project
<|jemc|>
something you use often and have a real connection with rather than just 'excercises'
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: supports invokedynamic, etc
<|jemc|>
s/excer/exer
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Clojure could use to follow suit on invokedynamic.
<Stalkr^>
havenwood: I haven't touched that stuff yet. Just learned about HashMap, HashSet, TreeSet, ArrayList and such
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<Stalkr^>
No idea what Clojure and InvokeDynamic is
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Nice. Good stuff. Clojure is a Lisp on the JVM.
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<Stalkr^>
o:
<Stalkr^>
Sounds advanced
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<Stalkr^>
Do I need to know Java to use JRuby or is Ruby enough?
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Ruby I think actually prepares one pretty well for Clojure! Lots of nice functional paradigms in Ruby.
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Just Ruby.
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<Stalkr^>
We are only doing Java for 6 months, then it's C#, F# and some C
<Stalkr^>
So don't want to get too invested into Java, rather want some Ruby knowledg
<Stalkr^>
e
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: F# is the one like Clojure. Well, Clojure is dynamically typed like Ruby and other nice stuff.
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<Mon_Ouie>
F# is like OCaml
<havenwood>
But functional.
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<Stalkr^>
What is the use for JRuby? I mean, if it just Ruby, why JRuby?
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<Stalkr^>
Runs faster because of compiled code?
<Mon_Ouie>
Because it allows you to access Java libraries
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<wuest>
Stalkr^: run on top of the JVM. Obviates the GIL, among other things
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<MrZYX>
mainly because people can do it. Like building ruby on top of python. Or python on top of python
<wuest>
(Of course, IIRC, you lose fork() as a result of using the JVM)
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<Stalkr^>
Should I start using JRuby or just Ruby?
<Mon_Ouie>
And indeed, performance due to the JVM is one reason to choose it too (although nearly all implementations generate bytyecode for their respective VMs)
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<Morrolan>
Well, Python on top of Python is quite a bit faster than Python on top of C.
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Also JRuby doesn't have a GVL (global vm lock), so nice for threading.
<Morrolan>
Stalkr^: In many cases it's not too hard to make your application work on both implementations.
<havenwood>
aka GIL
<Mon_Ouie>
It doesn't matter which implementation you're using to learn the language, they all support the same core
<Morrolan>
And from the programmer's point of view it's just Ruby, after all. :D
<wuest>
Stalkr^: if you depend on forking, JRuby is probably not a great solution. It sounds like you're in a Windows shop, though
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: Some shops use only one of the other. But gives Ruby access to so many libraries, pick your poison.
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<Stalkr^>
wuest: Not sure if you ask if I am on a Windows
<Stalkr^>
What does fork do?
<wuest>
Stalkr^: then you aren't depending on fork(). :)
<srji>
MrZYX: when i do "#{data}" i got the complete hash as output.
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: There are other interesting Ruby implementations as well, like Topaz, MagLev, Rubinius, MRuby, etc.
<srji>
how can this be nil?
<Stalkr^>
D:
<Stalkr^>
I shouldn't have asked these questions, not yet
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: man fork
<MrZYX>
srji: can't tell, I'm not seeing your data
<wuest>
Oh! Then you can man fork. You might want to man 2 fork specifically (on my local machines an Awk extension called fork is the default hit for man fork)
<hoelzro>
I like Beej's guide
<hoelzro>
(guides)
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<wuest>
Whoa, I haven't heard the phrase "Beej's Guide" in a looooong time.
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<Stalkr^>
What's the general recommendation after reading 'Learn to Program'? Not quite sure if I got it right, I heard 'Well Grounded Rubyist' and 'Programming Ruby 1.9 & 2.0'
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: The Ruby Programming Language
<hoelzro>
TRPL++
<hoelzro>
great book
* hoelzro
whistles
<wuest>
_why ^_^
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<Mon_Ouie>
Or sort_by(&:status) for a generic collection
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: noo, i mean hoelzro's ++'s
<EspenA>
wuest: I mean sort by a specific order (like in my previous msg), not sort a-z
<Mon_Ouie>
If a status cannot be compared you can, for example, map them to integers
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<Stalkr^>
havenwood: Oh, The Ruby Programming Language ++.. Thought it was a new book
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<havenwood>
Stalkr^: nvm :P but Learn to Program followed by The Ruby Programming Language sounds like a fantastic plan to me
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<Stalkr^>
Sweet, TRPL got some good ratings too
<Stalkr^>
I always like that
<wuest>
Stalkr^: it sounds like you have a fair bit of other language experience
<EspenA>
Mon_Ouie: yeah that could be a solution
<havenwood>
I've heard good things aboud Well Grounded Rubyist but haven't read.
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<wuest>
Ruby Under a Microscope might be a good book for you. Explores the internals of the VM, so you understand a lot of the "why" behind Ruby's behavior/design.
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<hoelzro>
oooo
* hoelzro
wants to read that
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<wuest>
(Disclaimer: I haven't read it yet, but it _DOES_ get raving reviews from everyone who's read it)
<wuest>
hoelzro: I'm waiting for deadtree format
<Stalkr^>
wuest: I have picked up a little here and there, but never really did any development
<tjbiddle>
Hey guys - I'm trying to find some resources on packaging a rails / rack / sinatra app as a gem. Anyone have anything you could throw my way? :)
<wuest>
havenwood: I don't think english is needed since 1.9.x?
<wuest>
(For some value of x)
<havenwood>
tjbiddle: I like to use bundler to build the gem structure, then edit that, and use gem-release to version bump, tag, and push.
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<havenwood>
wuest: Very-well may be true, i actually dunno.
<havenwood>
or you looking for just rack-app packing instructions?
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<havenwood>
Like frankenjar but for a Gem not a JVM jar.
<havenwood>
frankengem
<havenwood>
dun think it exists
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<tjbiddle>
havenwood: Yes, being able to package a web app (Rack based is fine) as a gem, so I can include it into my Rails app, and then mount it so I can reach it at my_rails_app/my_rack_app
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<tjbiddle>
I found a few examples after searching for rack instead of rails. Haven't done anything outside of rails - can I deploy with a better web server than webrick? Or would it run behind whatever I have the parent rails app running as?
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<havenwood>
Rails does like its plugins.
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<MrZYX>
tjbiddle: the later
<tjbiddle>
MrZYX: Kick ass - So if I had the rails app running as passenger, mounted the rack app in config/routes, then the rack app would run under passenger as well?
<tjbiddle>
running under passenger*
<MrZYX>
yes
<tjbiddle>
MrZYX: Very cool Thanks :-) Thanks for the resources as well havenwood !
<MrZYX>
it's really just passing the rack request thingy to your app and the apps response back
<BraddPitt>
okay so when i load a separate class file Foo, i call it's methods like Foo.method_name
<BraddPitt>
right?
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<havenwood>
BraddPitt: if they are class methods
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<havenwood>
BraddPitt: dunno what you mean by 'load a separate' though
<BraddPitt>
1 sec let me diagram this
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<MrZYX>
BraddPitt: there's no concept of "class files" in ruby, just file. The first time your require a file it's evaluated like you passed it to the ruby command directly
<havenwood>
where does concept of 'class file' come from?
<Stalkr^>
havenwood: What's blockly?
<havenwood>
Stalkr^: A visual programming language by Google.
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<s2013>
a module is a class right? so is a module basically a collection of classes?
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<s2013>
i read the chapter on procs/lambdas as well as watched videos but it still confuses me to abit. but i guess with due time
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<wuest>
s2013: Just have to play with them a lot
<usgc>
Hello there, I have a question concerning modules and classes. I have a class (Klass) that creates an object of another class (Other). Now I want to extend the object I created from Klass (@obj) with a module that contains a modified version of Other. Is this not possible?
<s2013>
i wanted to make something very simple as a way to teach myself ruby.. it would be something like a tracking your rhythm/timing. so you keep pressing a key for 60 seconds and it tells you the bpm
<havenwood>
s2013: nice
<endash_>
lambdas are "methody"
<s2013>
since i play the piano, timing is very important so i figured its a way to see your timing. does that make sense?
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<MrZYX>
usgc: extend doesn't reinitialize an object. You'd normally also don't pass classes to it. Lastly using during the program flow is a performance killer
<s2013>
is that something that would be relatively straightforward havenwood ?
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<MrZYX>
usgc: make a module Other, and a class SpecialOther; include Extension::Other; end; end; if you don't want to change all Other's
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<wuest>
s2013: Nice idea. Be aware that getc doesn't return immediately as you might expect. I'd recommend invoking gets and just expecting someone to hit 'enter' in your loop, for maximum simplicity. Outside of something like curses, I don't know how to achieve an immediate return from getc/etc.
<MrZYX>
class SpecialOther < Other; include Extension::Other; end; of course. Then in Klass do SpecialOther.new
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<s2013>
wuest: oh ok ill look into it. thanks
<usgc>
MrZYX: That wouldn't work in my case. I want to have a class/object within an instance that can be extended by other modules at program launch.
<havenwood>
s2013: Not entirely straightforward due to #getc as wuest metnions. Maybe to get you started: require 'io/console'; beat = STDIN.getch
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<s2013>
oh ok
<usgc>
I. e. I want to create an instance of Klass and then add several "Others".
<MrZYX>
usgc: the real world use case for that is what?
<wuest>
havenwood: isn't io/console Unix-only?
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* wuest
has no Windows box to test, wasn't certain
<usgc>
MrZYX: It is a HTML rendering engine where different modules will provide their own rendering methods. Say I have @renderer, I want to add render_map, render_image, etc.
<havenwood>
wuest: Haven't tried or delved into the code, interesting question?
<wuest>
Fair enough, I'll trust nobu
<MrZYX>
usgc: still not sure why you have to make that decision in the objects lifetime and not beforehand
* wuest
assumed that Windows's non-ANSI console mucked things up
<havenwood>
wuest: yeah, looks like win compat
<MrZYX>
usgc: fact is extend won't rerun an overriden initialize and isn't intended to "convert your objects type"
<havenwood>
wuest: when /mswin/, /mingw/, /win32/...
<usgc>
MrZYX: Because there can be several "site" instances (they will contain @renderer). Each site can be extended with modules. And thus I also want the modules to be able to extend that @renderer object.
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<wuest>
havenwood: yupyup, nifty
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<MrZYX>
usgc: module SiteExtension; def renderer_type; BlaRenderer; end; end; class Site; include SiteExtension; def initialize; @renderer = renderer_type.new; end; end;
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<usgc>
MrZYX: But the rendering has to take place in its own object. That is why I need the nested class.
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<MrZYX>
? how is it now taking place outside BlaRenderer?
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<usgc>
MrZYX: Ah sorry, I was confused. But this way, it is still not going to work because not all site objects will need all extensions.
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<MrZYX>
I guess I'm giving up on your class design, sorry
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<s2013>
man do people even read resumes?
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<havenwood>
s2013: I haven't submitted or read a resume in a looong time. Github.
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<s2013>
i havent looked for a job in 6+ years. i finally decided to get an entry level/junior level job to increase my skills. and they all asked for resume since its a bit more junior
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<s2013>
but i have few years of c++ and php experience from years ago but i explicitly mentioned i am junior level when it comes to rails.. but most think i have few years of rails experience
<BraddPitt>
fake it till you make it
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<s2013>
and gets all excited to try to talk to me and when i tell them no i dont have that many years of experience they get sad :(
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<s2013>
tbh id even work for minimum wage. i dont care much about the $. i just want to be able to learn. so no point in faking it to try to get a job where i am stuck with things i dont know about
<shevy>
lol s2013
<shevy>
s2013 if you can't tell them a good rails story, tell them a good anecdote about C++ or PHP
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<s2013>
no its not about that. i want a true junior position where i work in a team with senior devs.
<s2013>
and i had a 4-5 year break in between programming
<s2013>
so im rusy on a lot of the most basic things
<s2013>
they talk about things i learned back in college but hardly remember
<BraddPitt>
look for an intern position then
<s2013>
i did but its mostly for college students. ive been out o fcollege for a while.
<s2013>
they ask me what school am i currently in 99% of the time
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<havenwood>
s2013: just got to find a place with a good culture that matches what you want. Sure seems to be a lot of demand in LA right now.
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<s2013>
yeah i just got a call from a company in LA
<havenwood>
i've got more work than i can shake a stick at
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<s2013>
the lady was like "oh you have 5 years of rails experience? thats awesome" and i was thinking "oh God, not this again"
<havenwood>
startups here are using PHP because they can't find Rubyists
<havenwood>
>.>
<havenwood>
insanity...
<s2013>
im in nyc, same here
<s2013>
most of the places that i did get offers in, they wanted me to be the tech lead cause they cant find anyone else to work
<s2013>
and im like that kind of defeats the purpose
<havenwood>
aha, yeah NYC seem to be quite busy.
<havenwood>
right...
<havenwood>
ThoughtBot or something might be ideal.
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<s2013>
i saw a job last night. they wanted someone with 7+ years of rails experience. i was like uhh. thats a handful of people
<BraddPitt>
da fuck
<BraddPitt>
7+ years
<havenwood>
s2013: Maybe try Shopify? Wanna live in Canada?
<s2013>
yeah. for a startup
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<s2013>
havenwood: i rather drive a stake through my eye
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<havenwood>
s2013: They were trying to hire me for a developer tools spot, but yeah...
<momomomomo>
:O I like Canadia
<havenwood>
I was kinda tempted, love the people there.
<momomomomo>
I'm in Minnesota ;)
<havenwood>
At Shopify, not those silly Canadians.
<momomomomo>
haha
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<shevy>
what is wrong with canada
<shevy>
except for the snow
<momomomomo>
shevy: Nothing!
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<havenwood>
shevy: One nation under Canada!
<s2013>
shevy: canada is just like the new jersey of america
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<godd2>
s2013: New Jersey is already in America...
<s2013>
onlyplace in canada id consider though is Vancouver
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<havenwood>
As a Cascadian separatist, I look forward to a divided Canada. :P
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<s2013>
yes godd2 thats the point
<s2013>
canada is america's new jersey
<s2013>
as in new jersey is new yorks canad
<s2013>
canada
<s2013>
etc
<s2013>
aka neighbor no one likes/cares about
<BraddPitt>
what is the best/safest way to pass a class variable to a separate class file?
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<s2013>
momomomomo: how are ruby/rails position in MN?
<MrZYX>
BraddPitt: what's a class file?
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<s2013>
i saw one in montana which was interesting. id love to take that but i didnt get a call back
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<BraddPitt>
zzzz
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<shevy>
I guess a class file is a .rb file that has one class in it
<momomomomo>
s2013: One of my friends is trying to hire me at the moment, but other than that, there are a few startups. I'm actively looking at the moment, but focusing on the west coast
<BraddPitt>
im too used to java :<
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<s2013>
how many years experience you have?
<segfalt1>
BraddPitt: I am so sorry.
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<BraddPitt>
;/
<shevy>
momomomomo yeah, long live california!!! down with the east coast!
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<segfalt1>
shevy: I can afford to buy a house and pay it off in my lifetime.
<s2013>
shevy: hush
<BraddPitt>
okay let's rephase: safest/best way to pass a class variable to another class in a separate file
<BraddPitt>
better?
<momomomomo>
shevy: My sister and brother in law are moving out to San Diego, so figured I might like to be with my nieces while they're growing up
<s2013>
awwwww uncle momomomomo
<momomomomo>
shevy: Also importing my little brother from Sudan soon, so I'd like to see him as well
<shevy>
BraddPitt just pass through a method, or store in a second @@class_var
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* momomomomo
blushes
<BraddPitt>
er oops, its an instance variable actually
<shevy>
BraddPitt I'd really assign through a method
<s2013>
binary hash tree.. how do you deal with thati n ruby?
<BraddPitt>
okay
<BraddPitt>
ty
<MrZYX>
BraddPitt: if the second class should know about the first one, write a getter for it, if only the first class should know about the second pass it as parameter to new/initialize
<momomomomo>
one of the first results on google is a surprisingly timely domain haha
<s2013>
this brings me back to my college days
<momomomomo>
s2013: I got a D- on my only CS class in college
<s2013>
heh. i college level cs classes in hs
<s2013>
and in college i got A
<s2013>
but i dropped out after couple of semesters
<momomomomo>
s2013: It was "Solving computer problems" which had no syllabus, and ended up being us playing with Blender all semester
<momomomomo>
:p right on
<s2013>
i wanted to get into AI
<shevy>
s2013 why did you drop out? didnt like it anymore?
<s2013>
and was building games in c++
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<s2013>
shevy: family issues mostly and then i kind of fell out of it since i didnt like the theory much
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<s2013>
i switched to a different majro which i found more interesting
<s2013>
when i went back to school
<momomomomo>
nice - I finished with a business degree, went online and followed harvard's CS50, and a few math courses from University of Colorado Colorado Springs
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<momomomomo>
and lots o books :)
<s2013>
but i still programmed at that time to pay the bills. then started my own company and basically managed it past 5 years
<s2013>
so that 5 years i didnt program so i kind of forgot all those stuff
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<s2013>
but i kinda missed it so i started learning ruby and rails and ilike it and i figured i should get a job so i can learn faster.
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<shevy>
hehe
<s2013>
momomomomo: thats the beauty of programming. you can be self taught if you are a good learner
<atmosx>
s2013: sounds interesting story
<shevy>
I always liked ruby but it seems there is no way around rails
<s2013>
my school has a very awesome cs program though.
<atmosx>
I envy you USA guys jumping in and out of jobs so easily
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<s2013>
i wish i took advantage of it
<s2013>
atmosx: you are in czech republic?
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<momomomomo>
atmosx: I had worked at a radio network for 6 years, which gave me an easy intro to the ad agency world
<momomomomo>
atmosx: It's still tough to look around, though
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<s2013>
it depends.. but americans switch jobs more often than non americans from my experience
<momomomomo>
Maybe I need to build a portfolio or something
<s2013>
in other countries you are expected to be loyal to your company for life
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<atmosx>
s2013: yes
<atmosx>
s2013: Brno
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<shevy>
s2013 yeah but it works the other way too, you can safely work in a good job until retirement
<Guest12400>
opinions... is it ok to just support ODS and CSV, and tell everyone else to piss off
<s2013>
yeah it depends
<shevy>
at least... 20 years ago :P
<s2013>
if you care about money though best thing to do is stay in same industry but switch jobs
<s2013>
but im not the kidn of person that can work for anyone. the thought of looking for a job is making me vomit tbh
<shevy>
Guest12400 yes but only if you make sure everything else works perfectly well!
<segfalt>
I think american culture has shifted on both sides of the business. In Japan, the company CEO and share price would take a hit before they'd consider layoffs due to embarassment.
<s2013>
but i gotta do it. and stick with it for atleast few months
<Guest12400>
hnm now that is strange, xlsx works in Roo but xls doesn't O_O
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<Guest12400>
does anyone have a sample really simple xls sheet?
<s2013>
k anywyas nic etalkign to yall. gotta go. take care.
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<BraddPitt>
puts automatically puts a newline char at the end right?
<Guest12400>
i'm already using it
<BraddPitt>
unless you #chomp ?
<Guest12400>
it appears to be giving me an infinite loop on .xls files, at least those exported from soffice
<ReinH>
BraddPitt: chomping won't help
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<BraddPitt>
well
<BraddPitt>
the real question is, does puts place a newline char?
<ReinH>
BraddPitt: if you don't want the newline, use #print
<ReinH>
yes
<BraddPitt>
okay, cool
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<BraddPitt>
(i do want one)
<MrZYX>
unless there already is one
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<atmosx>
BraddPitt: sure it does
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<atmosx>
you can use printf("This is a line with a newline\n"); if it fits you better
<MrZYX>
atmosx: psssst :P
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<atmosx>
MrZYX: It's the only question I knew how to answer, it's only fair being an ass :-P
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<shevy>
sprintf - the ancient way to string print something
<shevy>
BraddPitt puts can be odd
<BraddPitt>
i'm beginnig to notice
<shevy>
puts "5"
<BraddPitt>
( ≖‿≖)
<shevy>
puts "5\n"
<wuest>
Can it? I haven't found any dark corners of puts.
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<shevy>
^^^ do you think these two lines are different BraddPitt
<wuest>
...That's a dark corner I've never noticed.
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<shevy>
well it surprised me when I first saw it, I added one \n programmatically and did not notice a newline
<apeiros>
`puts str` is like `print str.sub(/\n?\z/, "\n")`
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<ReinH>
puts merely ensures that the last printed char is a newline
<apeiros>
that is: it will append a newline unless there already is one
<ReinH>
there's nothing tricky about it
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<apeiros>
I agree with ReinH - nothing tricky or odd about it
<apeiros>
I also actually like ReinH's way of phrasing it better. "ensures a newline".
<ReinH>
apeiros: hi :)
<apeiros>
ho ReinH :)
<ReinH>
apeiros: I've been doing a lot of FP lately so maybe I'm thinking more declaratively :)
<apeiros>
I expect your tail to be optimized then…
<ReinH>
where I come from we don't have call stacks ;)
<wuest>
Sure you do! It's just a static size of 1. ;)
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<ReinH>
no, we literally don't have call stacks
<ReinH>
(Haskell does not have a call stack)
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<ReinH>
so tail calls are not as important as in some other languages
<ReinH>
it matters more whether your recursions are productive
<ReinH>
aaanyway
<yxhuvud>
what does it have instead? magic smoke?
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<ReinH>
a pattern matching stack
<ReinH>
or a thunk stack
<ReinH>
whatever you want to call it
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<shevy>
a monad stack
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<yxhuvud>
hmm.
<shevy>
it's where you put a monad after use
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<ReinH>
nope
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<atmosx>
Haskell
<atmosx>
what is it good for?
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<hoelzro>
it'll change the way you think, man...
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<atmosx>
hoelzro: everybody says that for Haskell and Lisp
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<MrZYX>
I say that for functional programming in general
<ReinH>
hackeron_: programming stuff.
<hoelzro>
well, it *does* expose you to a completely different way of programming
<hoelzro>
even if you don't use them everyday, I think you're better for learning them
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<shevy>
atmosx I think it is like a drug
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<atmosx>
shevy: hm
<atmosx>
a good one
<atmosx>
?
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<atmosx>
shevy: did you knew that small ORFs are finally found to play major role in some cells. I don't remember the exact link now. They produce proteins.
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<shevy>
how small is small?
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<shevy>
atmosx and isn't small RNAs the rage these days?
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<atmosx>
shevy: no idea
<atmosx>
slicing is fucking everything up immensely
<shevy>
hehe
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<shevy>
atmosx how far away are you in your studies now?
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<atmosx>
shevy: last year, if everything goes well..
<shevy>
*far ahead into
<shevy>
cool
<atmosx>
shevy: I'm taking classes of 3rd and 4th year… it's my actual 3rd year on the univ
<atmosx>
my thesis is to build a web framework that will find ORFs for prokaryotes
<atmosx>
which is fairly easy, I'm doing it on rails :-P
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<shevy>
cooool
<atmosx>
yes hehe our molecular biology teacher is awesome
<atmosx>
s/teacher/professor
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<graft>
why are oyu building a web framework to find ORFs?
<graft>
isn't that something to do with a small shell script?
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<godd2>
To make it interactive?
<graft>
why does it need to be interactive?
<godd2>
Oh I was just throwin spaggheti at the wall. I don't even know what an ORF is hah
<atmosx>
graft: already did that. My professor wants the program, I told him I could deliver any interface
<graft>
ORF = open reading frame, basically a gene
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<atmosx>
so he doesn't really give a shit about RoR or PHP or anything.
<graft>
atmosx: so you're really building a genome browser
<atmosx>
graft: it's a good way for me to elarn RoR.
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<shevy>
graft we'll get him to generate pdfs from that eventually including excel/openoffice diagrams
<shevy>
and all statistics output!
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<shevy>
all through rails too
<atmosx>
graft: kinda… they will load the DNA and then load the protein or perform random searchs for ORFs. Both is easy to implement although I should find an algorythm to do it faster… on hand onthe other hand runs pretty fast for E.Colli and other bacteria because they have small DNA sequences anyway. And at the univ will be using a CUDA so… I get it will be faster even without using the GPU.
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<atmosx>
shevy: hmmm that doesn't seem fun, but yes it can be done sure :-P
<graft>
atmosx: aha, so it's an interface for people to submit datasets?
<atmosx>
graft: exactly
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<shevy>
will your program search for ORFs on both dsDNA strands and in all 6 reading frames?
<atmosx>
graft: it's an interface to 'grep' if you wanna see it that way, with some bells and whistles
<graft>
heh
<atmosx>
shevy: sure
<atmosx>
shevy: is there any *other* way to do it?
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<atmosx>
shevy: I think I have the 1st script I wrot ehere wait...
<shevy>
atmosx dunno, none that is less basic I guess
<Eiam>
is there some way to find out the name of the method I'm inside of?
<Eiam>
I wanted to print all the parameters passed to me and didn't want to do method(:my_method).parameters (because that requires me to know the method name)
<shevy>
Eiam I think __method__
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<Eiam>
__method__.parameters?
* Eiam
tries
<shevy>
hmmm the params...
<shevy>
there was this way to get them...
<shevy>
arity? hmmmm
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<shevy>
I forgot what it was
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<Eiam>
method(__method__).parameters works
<Eiam>
a bit confusing
<Eiam>
hmm well it doesn't display the value
<Eiam>
damn
<Eiam>
just the names =p
<shevy>
atmosx I recall that AUG and GUG as start codon would be used in bacteria, but TTG as well?
<atmosx>
shevy: Yes, I found it at Wikipedia
<shevy>
Eiam cool, did not know that works, I will write that down :D
<shevy>
atmosx I see
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<graft>
atmosx: oohh, you don't have to worry about introns! man...
<shevy>
Eiam I get weird stuff when I use method(__method__).parameters
<shevy>
[[:req, :a], [:req, :b], [:req, :c]]
<graft>
atmosx: i'd worry about false-positives with those rare start codons
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<Eiam>
shevy: required parameter :a
<Eiam>
required parameter :b
<shevy>
atmosx seems as if graft digged through his share of pain as well already
<shevy>
Eiam oh I see
<atmosx>
graft: well, actually in my program you will be able to define the start codons yourself. Of course the defaul will only atg
<Eiam>
its just the names of the parameters and if they are required. trying to figure out how to get their values all in one swoop.
<shevy>
:req for required
<Eiam>
shevy: yup
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<atmosx>
shevy: yeah I figure that out from his initial interest in the conversation
<shevy>
atmosx from #bioruby there are some other ruby users... one in netherlands, and some like raoul from italy
<graft>
i can't believe i haven't been using this Bio-Ruby stuff
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<shevy>
bio-ruby is not easy for my poor old brain to handle
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<graft>
is it any good?
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<shevy>
it has some nice tidbits, like rare codon tables of some organisms, and some things like parsers for some deep sequence machines I have never even heard of
<graft>
i have a whole bunch of stuff i rolled myself (GTF/Fasta/VCF), i feel like i probably wasted a bunch of time on work other people already did
<shevy>
but I just can't get my brain to grasp it :(
<atmosx>
graft: I didn't use it, but they have written some rails bindings etc.
<shevy>
graft yeah I feel like that too
<shevy>
oh yeah there they are atmosx http://www.bioruby.org/ "Naohisa Goto, Pjotr Prins, Mitsuteru Nakao, Raoul Bonnal, Jan Aerts and Toshiaki Katayama"
<atmosx>
shevy: I'm subscribed on the mailing list actually :-_P
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<graft>
you seem to be using their Sequence class, atmosx
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<shevy>
atmosx ah hehe...
<shevy>
I can't deal with mailing lists either :(
<shevy>
the good thing with IRC is ... I forget everything after like 3 hours
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<atmosx>
graft: sure, I trust they are better than me in this. Althugh I'm not sure if they use every possible stop codon
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<atmosx>
but yes anyway
<atmosx>
shevy: lol
<atmosx>
graft: what do you do? study or work?
<Eiam>
shevy: okay thick I got it hang on lemme write it out
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<graft>
atmosx: cancer
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<atmosx>
graft: Harvard? wow
<atmosx>
and MIT
<atmosx>
impressive
<graft>
err... that was creepy
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<atmosx>
molecular lessions that drive tumor?
<atmosx>
cool
<graft>
where'd you get that from?
<atmosx>
graft: NSA
<graft>
yeah, lots of analysis of next-gen sequencing from tumors
<atmosx>
graft: now, that would be creepy.
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<graft>
oh wait, i have my name on this thing, heh, never mind
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<atmosx>
graft: oh you didn't knew? heh sorry if I scared you.
<atmosx>
I just googled your name
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<v0n>
why do I get a syntax error with: exit if nil.nil?
<graft>
hmm, they don't seem to have an interval-trees type thing in bioruby, shucks
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<graft>
v0n: what's the context? works in irb...
<wuest>
v0n: what's the syntax error? That's valid; might be something preceding it that's messing up?
<v0n>
I'm using pry and it doesn't work
<v0n>
works in irb, that's true
<v0n>
wuest: unexpected end-of-input, expecting keyword_then or ';' or '\n'
* Eiam
shevy: here we go... somewhat lazy. local_variables.inject(method(__method__).parameters.map!{|a,b| b}){ |sum,val|
<Eiam>
fffff
<Mon_Ouie>
v0n: It seems related to the fact that exit in pry is a command
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<MrZYX>
Eiam: why map! ?
<wuest>
v0n: what precedes it? Can you give a pastebin dump?
<wuest>
Oh, or perhaps if you're using pry apparently...
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<Stalkr_>
graft: Thanks, got it working
<Stalkr_>
I guess it's no problem if I choose not to use '~'?
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<Stalkr_>
Just /Users/Me/this/folder instead of ~/this/folder?
<apeiros>
Stalkr_: correct. ~ is not really a directory name.
<apeiros>
your shell expands it
<Stalkr_>
Thanks
<apeiros>
and in ruby, you need to expand it yourself (using File.expand_path, as graft showed you)
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<Stalkr^>
What's the easiest way to execute a Ruby script? First line is '#!/usr/bin/env ruby' so it can execute itself, but is there something like .sh so I can just double-click on it?
<Stalkr^>
Compile .rb to .sh, .command or something so it runs directly in Terminal from Finder would be neat
<popl>
Stalkr^: What OS?
<Stalkr^>
OS X
<MrZYX>
at least on linux it doesn't run because it's .sh but because it has the executable bit set and a shebang
<Lewix>
apeiros: just read what i asked over and read the link I provided, you'll notice I was quoting that person and I didnt understand what he was saying. It's not about haml. we're wasting time for nothing
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<Lewix>
apeiros: my fault. I clearly didn't read it myself -) I misread it, for some reason i was reading it like this ' a single equals interpolates ruby code in ruby'. sometimes I should just shut it
* Lewix
needs a break
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