<eam>
I have automation that gives me all rubygems, cpan modules, and many others at cutting edge versions
<eam>
it's more or less a solved problem
<ged>
I guess I'd be glad if someone did the work to make distributing via arbitrary package formats as easy as packaging a gem, but until that happens, I'm glad there's gems instead of the 10 different setup.rb/install.rb/mkrf.rb/whatever there was before Rubygems.
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<RubyPanther>
Sure, but it is downstream, software isn't packaged for each distro during development, it is packaged after it has been chosen to be in the stable distro version. Then it makes it into the unstable version. At this point the software is already fairly old, or at least, the dependencies are no longer the latest dev version
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<RubyPanther>
that is why there are language-specific tools for maintaining your dev environment, and then package manager ones for dependencies. Looking over the fence at Perl they do the same thing, you develop against CPAN and then things that make it into a distro there will be a distro version of each dependency
<eam>
on the contrary, many products produce distro packages at every cycle
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<eam>
I'm well aware Perl has made the same mistake, though to be fair CPAN predates the distro architectures we have today
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<eam>
gem does not
<RubyPanther>
Nonsense, a very small number of things that are mostly not developer tools maintain distro versions, things like flash plugin, or google chrome
<eam>
RubyPanther: yes *because* that effort goes into a langauge specific packaging platform
<eam>
which is unnecessary
<eam>
and cumbersome
<eam>
it's not the end of the world because it can be adapted to a distro target
<eam>
but remember, this conversation started because someone complained that ruby libraries ought not exist in distro packages at all
<RubyPanther>
Sure, sure, everybody else is wrong, developers suck, your idea is better, blah blah blah, not
<eam>
which is entirely backwards
<RubyPanther>
Well, they ought not exist in distro packages at all, excepting for the fact that in a good distro the only ones that are there are the ones that have something in the distro that has them as a requirement
<eam>
RubyPanther: clearly everybody isn't wrong -- there are many people working to make distro platforms effective and useful
<eam>
the issue is that there are many unaware developers
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<eam>
(many more people than which work on ruby specific packaging, I might add)
<RubyPanther>
It is clearly true that packages shouldn't be in the distro _unless_. But, "unless" comes up often enough that there are enough distro packages around to lead poor folks like yourself astray.
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<eam>
no, that's incorrect. Packages belong in the distro -- otherwise dependencies cannot be properly satisfied in an automatic fashion
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<eam>
mixing your underlying distro packaging (deb, rpm, etc) with gem leads to a crappy UX involving manual monkeying around
<eam>
this is a well understood issue I hope
<RubyPanther>
eam: You should put more effort into understanding why it is done the way it is, because you're missing the claimed benefits and then making wrong assertions about the duplication of effort
<eam>
one of us should put more effort in, certainly
<eam>
how many packaging systems have you created?
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<RubyPanther>
Well, if I am supporting the existing Ruby way, the effort of understanding has already been put in by others. It is a much lower bar to learn how things are done and why than it is to claim that things are being done wrong.
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<eam>
RubyPanther: I might s/ruby/distro/ and make the same point -- except my point would apply to the foundational undertaking in creating gem in the first place
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<RubyPanther>
"derp, derp, how many did you invent from raw photons on your home-built bicycle-powered CPU"
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<eam>
RubyPanther: you raised the issue of relevent experience, not me
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<eam>
please don't complain
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<RubyPanther>
You can invest seventeen thousand three hundred and sixty four ways of package management, you will still see "everybody" using language-specific tools for development, even where what they are developing will eventually make its way into distros where the prereqs will be distro packages
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<eam>
I agree, and I propose it's because 1) most developers don't understand the tools which already exist and 2) Because NIH is a widespread phenomena
<eam>
I'm not *surprised* at the state of things -- I'm merely noting that it's unfortunate
<RubyPanther>
You don't need to create anything, all you have to do is picture in your head the problem... you have Ruby-based product Foo, and the author uses distro Pony. But some other contributors use distro Donkey. Users use any of 42 different distros. Using the language-specific package manager, there is one package to manage. Using distro-specific package managers there are 42 different packages to manage, 40 of which currently have no (know
<RubyPanther>
n) users.
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<RubyPanther>
You are wrong^42*n
<eam>
yes it appears you don't see the difference between a build toolchain and a packaging toolchain, and how they might be interfaced in a generic fashion
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<shevy>
there are not so many package managers
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<eam>
shevy: when you ignore language specific ones, that is :^)
<RubyPanther>
Perhaps I cannot comprehend the difference. Or, perhaps we have a single easy one-step process instead of crufty two step process where the second step has to be replicated for every known and unknown distro
<shevy>
dpkg uses perl, emerge uses python. not sure what else can be used... some like sourcemage use shell scripts, then there is this replacement for emerge written in C++ I think. pacman is written in C... hmm
<Eiam>
whats that thing in ruby method parameters where its like def fun(a,b, *c)
<Eiam>
the *c part where it takes everything else
<shevy>
eam: do you count machomebrew as package manager?
<shevy>
Eiam splat operator
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<shevy>
hmm rpm written in C
<shevy>
quite none in ruby which is sad
<shevy>
:(
<Eiam>
shevy: ah right. is there a way to use the splat with rake tasks? =)
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<RubyPanther>
one is O(0) the other is O(2n)
<shevy>
no idea, dont use rake tasks myself
<shevy>
but rake uses ruby code
<shevy>
so everything that works in ruby should work in rake as well
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<Eiam>
args are a bit wonky for rake tasks unfortunately
<eam>
shevy: generally speaking they're all implemented in C or C++
<Eiam>
think maybe ill just read in a file instead
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<jamesaxl>
hello
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<jamesaxl>
i hope that when you update Ruby, keep the old modulles work with it, as in perl and python
<jamesaxl>
many modules won't run with new ruby :(
<mdszy>
Which ones in particular, jamesaxl?
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<jamesaxl>
mdszy, webkit for example
<mdszy>
Ah.
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<SYNTActiX>
should i learn ruby or python
<SYNTActiX>
or perl
<mdszy>
Ruby!
<SYNTActiX>
what benefits does it have,(note i am coming from java)
<ged>
shevy: the ports tools on FreeBSD use Ruby.
<SYNTActiX>
of the three, is ruby best at OOP?
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<ged>
SYNTActiX: That's a highly subjective question. Perhaps if you gave some indication as to what you considered the critical features of "OOP"...?
<ged>
And in general, all three are pretty much equivalent in their functionality.
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<SYNTActiX>
i want to use a language, instead of java, to simulate baseball games, involving parsing data and setting game states
<ged>
You should pick a simple task, learn enough of all of them to implement it, then judge based on which you find more pleasing.
<SYNTActiX>
thanks, that sounds like a good idea
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<ged>
And try out some other fun ones like io and Lua, too.
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<mjb2k>
ged: I think that's great advice, it's exactly what I did to choose between Python and Ruby
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<banisterfiend`>
williamherry: if oyu really need that put 'nil' by itself on a line
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<bnagy>
or # do nothing
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<bnagy>
cause, you know, doing nothing is kind of built into computers
<banisterfiend`>
boobah: i really dont think a 'sleep' is teh right approach here... :P
<hackingoff>
Ruby seems kind of high level to be needing an explicit no-op. I'm used to that being used to burn a fixed # of cycles in asm.
<boobah>
banisterfiend`: yeah, it's kind of difficult to guess at what he wants
<hackingoff>
Just having a line with nothing but "true" on it would also do nothing (assuming it's not in danger of being returned), but the real question is what your goal is.
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<bnagy>
williamherry: when is pass used in python? As in, why do they need an explicit statement to not do anything?
<bnagy>
We have Thread.pass in ruby as well, but it's a hint to the scheduler that's only really relevant in multithreaded apps
<hackingoff>
"pass is a null operation -- when it is executed, nothing happens. It is useful as a placeholder when a statement is required syntactically, but no code needs to be executed..."
<hackingoff>
The only thing I could think of on that level of stubbing is passing an empty block.
<bnagy>
oic.. needs to compensate for not having def...end and if ...end
<banisterfiend`>
bnagy: they need it to create like emtpy class/method deifnitions
<banisterfiend`>
iirc
<williamherry>
python use pass because it not use end, i think, i just find out, in ruby just not write any thing mean do nothing
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<hackingoff>
You can just do if x; end or class Y; end and be fine.
<hackingoff>
pass might be a vestige of python's whitespace-sensitivity.
<bnagy>
... yes that's what everyone just said :)
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<bnagy>
banisterfiend`: you know how I don't click on shortened URLs? That goes double when they're from you :D
<bnagy>
srsly though, I hate zenburn
<hackingoff>
bnagy: Was trying to give him the direct syntax.
<banisterfiend`>
bnagy: haha ok
<hackingoff>
monokai ftw
<hackingoff>
Tried solarized; couldn't stick to it.
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<bnagy>
solarized dark is an abortion
<hackingoff>
I can't use light themes.
<any-key>
I don't mind it sometimes, I love the light one for when I have my brightness down
<any-key>
Solarized light is the only light theme I can use
<bnagy>
"I'ma put some muddy blues and greens on this murky blue background, and then, maybe, have like BRIGHT FUCKING EYESTAB RED for quotation marks"
<ggreer>
it probably depends on your monitor
<ggreer>
solarized dark doesn't look good on my laptop screen, but on my main monitor it's nice
<bnagy>
I use solarized light when I am working outside in the sun, same reason as any-key probably
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<bnagy>
I'm on a modified monokai now
<ggreer>
I like the django theme
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<any-key>
bnagy: pretty much
<bnagy>
ST2 highlighting for interpolated strings is a bit broken, by default
<bnagy>
also ivars
<hackingoff>
Bonus: monokai goes well with the Sublime Text chrome.
<ggreer>
in what language are quotes red in solarized dark? I'm only seeing light gray quotes
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<ggreer>
"def" is red tohugh
<bnagy>
in sublime text 2 for ruby
<ggreer>
ah. I'm using textmate
<bnagy>
yeah, they messed up the colours I think
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<ggreer>
sublime text can use textmate themes, right?
<hackingoff>
ggreer: Was about to say that.
<ggreer>
maybe grab the textmate solarized theme and try it out in st2?
<ggreer>
great lemmings think alike
<bnagy>
but I just spent ages making monokai better :(
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<passbe>
why would NET::HTTP on a post request not use zlib to gzip / deflate the response, looking at the code a get request does deflate the response ?
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<fowl>
denstark, the original pickaxe is still good
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<denstark>
fowl: is that the 1.8 book?
<fowl>
denstark, it might be good to run into the differences
<fowl>
hit them like a wall
<fowl>
feel them
<denstark>
haha
<denstark>
ok
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<dekz>
Is there a way to 'parse' a sinatra app file and list the routes it has defined, similar to rake -T?
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<manhunter>
Hi, i don't like the inherit syntax of ruby, can you change it?
<manhunter>
class a < Core
<manhunter>
Can you change/make it to class a extends Core ?
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<Hanmac>
vectorshelve one way would be replace " with \" or use %r{^I should see "([^"]*)"$}
<Hanmac>
vectorshelve ... sorry the first is wrong
<Hanmac>
its only an error in the pastie parser ... (i think)
<vectorshelve>
Hanmac: so what could be line 9 correctly ?
<vectorshelve>
Then /^I should see "([^"]*)"$/ do |greeting| Hanmac this is it as of now so the below lines are becoming comments
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<Hanmac>
as i say ... your like is currect, only the pastie parser is to dump
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<vectorshelve>
Hanmac: I didnt get you.. how can I correct it ? :)
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<Hanmac>
you cant, pastie has no error reporting :D
<Axsuul>
I have an array of about 4,500 integers, and I need to check if a specific integer is in the array. What is the most performant way of doing this? Should I be making a hash with the key being each integer and checking if the key exists? Or is .include? fine
<bnagy>
you could use a Set
<bnagy>
which is more or less what you suggested (it uses Hash)
<bfig>
Axsuul, i don't know if your question pertains ruby specifically but i'd suggest amortizing the cost of doing that search and make ordered inserts
<Axsuul>
Yep, this is a ruby question
<Axsuul>
Cool, looks like Set is what I want
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<bnagy>
even if you keepa sorted array you'd still have to binary search or something
<Axsuul>
thanks bnagy
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<bnagy>
if entries are unique Set is dfefinitely better
<Axsuul>
aye, they are unique
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<bnagy>
I actually do a lot of stuff with large sets of integeers, so I got some assorted libs for compression, serialisation etc
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<Axsuul>
Ah neat
<Axsuul>
4,500 isnt considered large right? :p
<bnagy>
not so much, no
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<zeroXten>
so, what is the best way to do stuff with IP addresses in ruby? ipaddr seems reasonable, except that it doesn't seem to be able to just return a mask (i'd have to substring or something) and it certainly doesn't easily return CIDR notation
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<zeroXten>
ok, so ipaddr is amazingly useless
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<burgestrand>
It’s awesome for testing ip ranges
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<burgestrand>
inclusion in ip ranges, that is
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<burgestrand>
Paradox: ah, yes, URI.escape only escapes values to make the URI valid, but it does not escape characters that ought to be escaped when it comes to keys and values in query strings (e.g. ?, =, &)
<Paradox>
ah
<Paradox>
yeah
<Paradox>
URI.escape is for YOUR dealing with urls
<Paradox>
such as with Net::HTTP and craps
* burgestrand
nods
<burgestrand>
Not confusing at all
* burgestrand
coughs
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<banisterfiend>
Paradox: ping
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<banisterfiend>
Paradox: can u show me a screenshot of your theme including ivars
<apeiros_>
a paradox banisterping
<banisterfiend>
:))
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<the-newsman>
what does that mean "class Metasploit3 < Msf::Exploit::Remote" ?
<the-newsman>
can u kindly explain it to me ?
<hoelzro>
the-newsman: Metasploit3 is a subclass of Msf::Exploit::Remote
<the-newsman>
hoelzro what is Msf ?
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<the-newsman>
module ?
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<sepp2k>
the-newsman: Either that or a class.
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<hoelzro>
the-newsman: I have no idea
<hoelzro>
I've never seen it
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<Jackneill>
what does it mean? i have a class "Irc", and a variable @tcpsocket, i want to use it in another class, so i did Irc.new, but i got that error message
<Jackneill>
the Irc class already has an instance
<Jackneill>
that will be the second.
<bnagy>
Jackneill: usually means you've got recursion that's too deep, but it can also be nested objects
<ccooke>
Jackneill: stack level too deep means that your code is recursing, probably forever
<bnagy>
impossible to tell without the code
<Jackneill>
ok i will paste it.
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<bnagy>
so the program won't exit until all those threads finish, if ever
<bnagy>
or until it's killed etc
<the-newsman>
shevy
<shevy>
the-newsman: hmm the problem is, you are trying to use a program written by others here, right?
<the-newsman>
no
<the-newsman>
did u look at the page ?
<shevy>
yup. a very large and complex project it is
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<the-newsman>
nice
<the-newsman>
now remote is class. right ?
<shevy>
I do not know, I have not written it and I don't see the source. It could be a module too, Msf::Exploit::Remote, but you can find out anyway by doing .class on it, Msf::Exploit::Remote.class
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<shevy>
if it is a class, you can call .new on it
<shevy>
ah
<shevy>
it has <
<shevy>
so yes, it is a class
<the-newsman>
now. there r many modules in this page
<the-newsman>
they r very different of course
<shevy>
just as in any other project too
<the-newsman>
does this class have the defintion for those modules ?
<shevy>
Msf::Exploit::Remote -> module Msf; module Explit; class Remote
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<shevy>
depends on how the author layouted the structure
<shevy>
usually, you would split things up
<the-newsman>
man
<shevy>
I write one class for one .rb file usually
<the-newsman>
bnagy do u say class=module and vice versa ?
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<bnagy>
banisterfiend: I can still code, depending on where I cut myself
<spirat>
Hello, I am experiencing problems with redmine, I don't know much about ruby so i'm a little lost and can't figure out how to debug... Can someone look at this backtrace and point me in the right direction? http://dpaste.org/8NMFX/
<bnagy>
and how much :|
<bnagy>
the-newsman: I say a Class is a kind of Module .. kind of
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<bnagy>
Module is a bit special
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<bnagy>
go use google and become enlightened
<the-newsman>
bnagy module is just wrapper. not real class
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<the-newsman>
my q is, how can class have some modules inside
<banisterfiend>
the-newsman: u prob shouldn't correct bnagy when he's a veteran and you're still a tourist from noobcity ;)
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<the-newsman>
correct me banisterfiend please
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<banisterfiend>
the-newsman: buy a book
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<shevy>
the-newsman: class Foo; module Bla; end; end
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<shevy>
the-newsman: you can use a class just like you can use a module too when it comes to namespacing
<shevy>
the-newsman: as long as you dont understand it, so long will you just run in circles here
<the-newsman>
shevy thanx
<the-newsman>
shevy some in here r worethelss. thanx again shevy
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<shevy>
Namespace access is always done via :: no matter if it is a class or module. Foo::Bla could both be a class or a module, one would have to use .class to find out for sure, or look at the source. I dont think there is any other way to know, just by looking at "Foo::Bla" alone, that does not seem to have sufficient information in itself to deduce.
<bnagy>
I feel so worethelss. How will I go on?
<shevy>
bnagy: it's ok. google likes you.
<bnagy>
shutupshutupshutup
<shevy>
I want to be friends on google+ with you bnagy!!!
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<bnagy>
ok, you create an account and wait for me there
<bnagy>
I'll be along right after I set up the twitter, facebook and linkedin I don't have
<shevy>
:(
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<shevy>
I tried to use twitter... then I realized, my true nature is to be lazy
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<banisterfiend>
Mon_Ouie: u here?
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
do I have to do anything special when wanting to distribute some yaml files in a gem project?
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<mdszy>
shevy: I think you just have to make sure they're recognized as files in the gemspec
<JustinCampbell>
shevy: more context?
<JustinCampbell>
^
<mdszy>
make sure they're in the gem.files array
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<mdszy>
if you're using git, and the YAML files are in the repo, you can use this to make sure everything in git is in the gem:
<mdszy>
gem.files = `git ls-files`.split($\)
<mdszy>
(not my code, that's in the default gemspec that `bundle gem` creates)
<shevy>
JustinCampbell: yeah, not sure yet... I never made a gem so far with yaml files, so I am not sure what I have to do or whether I have to do anything special :)
<shevy>
hmm ok mdszy
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<mdszy>
shevy: yeah, you don't have to do anything special except making sure that somehow the yaml files are showing up in the gem.files array
<JustinCampbell>
do you have any ruby code in the gem?
<shevy>
ok mdszy, cool
<shevy>
JustinCampbell: yeah, the .rb files will make use of the yaml files in that gem
<JustinCampbell>
i mean, are you trying to just package and distribute data as a gem, or is there ruby code in the gem that accesses the data as a proxy
<rking>
I do weird things to my configs, so I'm not sure if it's in the ballpark. Actually now that I think about it I think my keyword-yellow is very brown relative to the normal one.
<hoelzro>
rking: depends on your colorscheme, but it doesn't look out of the ordinary
<rambda>
thanks man, I'm pretty new to ruby to please excuse my ignorance, what do the hashes do there?
<offby1>
string interpolation
<offby1>
i.e., they do what you hope they do.
<offby1>
"three plus two is #{3 + 2}" => "three plus two is 5"
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<offby1>
if there were a ruby bot in this channel it'd be easy to demonstrate
<rambda>
cool thanks
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<shevy>
what do you guys use when wanting to output coloured text in a sentence, to the user?
<shevy>
like, it makes use of more than one colour in the same sentence
<rambda>
why doesn't ruby just accept the variables without the hashes and brackets? When I first started learning, I could do simple things like puts variablename and my output would be whatever the variable had been assigned to
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<shevy>
rambda you can use + too
<shevy>
puts var1+' '+var2+' '+var3
<Hanmac>
no ... "text" + number does fail
<shevy>
and print should use , ... print var1,' ',var2,' ',"\n"
<shevy>
fine, here we go then puts var1.to_s+' '+var2.to_s+' '+var3.to_s
<rambda>
that's basically what I had tried, putting variables to a socket in that way threw that error
<cakehero>
I have an app loaded into memory with unicorn - at some point unicorn workers start dying because of OOM errors. Is there a way to debug the application so I can see where the memory leak is?
<canton7>
obviously, replace line 8 with your instance_eval
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<lexy0202>
canton7: thanks
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<Travis-42>
I'm having some trouble understanding the splat operator I think. Can someone help me understand why this gives "unexpected tSTAR, expecting ')'": https://gist.github.com/3671502c850573f09f69
<canton7>
lexy0202, pastie updated
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<wmoxam>
Travis-42: you want to pass args
<wmoxam>
not *args
<Travis-42>
wmoxam: wouldn't passing args alone just pass an array as a single argument?
<canton7>
Travis-42, I suspect you might need curly braces around lines 4-7?
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<wmoxam>
Travis-42: I guess it depends on what args search_tank takes :p
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<Synthead>
mjb2k: there we go :) thanks!
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<evenix>
hey all
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<TrahDivad_>
I'm fairly new to ruby and I'm trying to decide on a ORM to use with padrino. Can somebody point me to an article that discuses the pros and cons of the major ruby ORMs?
<itz>
PING
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<mjb2k>
TrahDivad_: in case you're entirety unaware, I'm going to let you know that is a terrible question
<TrahDivad_>
mjb2k: why's that?
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<Eiam>
alright, I need a quick sanity check here. if I make a request to a server, and it gives me a response with some cookies, its generally accepted that my next response is going to include those cookies, correct?
<mjb2k>
you're not even asking the opinion of experience of any one here, what you're asking for is provided by any one of numerous search engines
<Eiam>
as in, almost every http library is going to do that automatically (include domain cookies with future requests)
<mjb2k>
Eiam, no
<mjb2k>
dont expect that to happen automatically
<mjb2k>
but yes, it should be done, which means you have to do it
<Eiam>
if the response has a set-cookie:blah
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<Eiam>
right, it should be done
<mjb2k>
you read the set-cookie header and send it back in a header
<Eiam>
mjb2k: nah, I *AM* doing it, the server is saying 'uhm, don't send this cookie back to me'
<Eiam>
and im saying 'uh, you sent me the cookie, of course im going to send it back to you'
<TrahDivad_>
mjb2k: I've searched Google before coming here and I'm having a hard time finding the kind of article I'm asking for. That's why I was hoping that somebody had a bookmark to one.
<gift>
[ "foo", { :bar => "baz", :baz => "foo" }, "bar", { :baz => "foo", :bar => "baz" } ] --- How can I get that array to look like this: [ [ "foo", { :bar => "baz", :baz => "foo" } ], [ "bar", { :baz => "foo", :bar => "baz" } ] ]
<mjb2k>
Eiam: ah ok, not sure then would need more specifics, how are you sending the cookie data and what exactly is the server responding with?
<gift>
every other element in the array should be paired and pushed onto a higher array with the following element. 2 x 2 x 2, etc
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<Eiam>
mjb2k: don't think we need to dig further, its literally their fault. I make 20 async requests, but the time the 6th request is sent, I get back my first response.. 7th request goes out with the cookies they set, and it fails. all requests that go out with their cookies set fail
<Eiam>
and they are saying 'oh don't send those cookies back to us'
<Eiam>
then don't send me the cookie dummies!
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<mjb2k>
Eiam: lol, ok then. I don't get the point of cookies that never go back to the server, that is what they're supposed to do
<Eiam>
mjb2k: right, exactly. I honestly wanted a sanity check before tearing into them =)
<Eiam>
I hit up google, read some stuff, figured i'd get a final confirmation
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<mjb2k>
yes, the entire point of a cookie is for the server to store data on the client for later retrieval
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<apeiros_>
mjb2k: not that it'd make much sense, but you can read cookies using js too. (it doesn't make much sense since you have to be on the right domain to do that…)
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<tds>
if I have a class A::B::C, is there a method I can call on C that will give me its namespace (i.e. A::B)?
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<Eiam>
mjb2k: thanks
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<evenix>
Hey guys anyone played with paypal express checkout recently?
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<mjb2k>
apeiros_: yes I do tend to forget that since I more commonly work with HTTP only cookies, for security reasons.
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<shevy>
tds: hmm not sure. try .ancestors
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<apeiros_>
tds: since C could be referenced by X::Y::C just as well - no
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<apeiros_>
tds: you can use C.name and parse that
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<tds>
apeiros_: for your first point, do you mean if I did Y.const_set(:C, A::B::C)
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<tds>
or sorry X::Y.const_set(:C, A::B::C)
<apeiros_>
tds: module X; module Y; C = A::B::C; end; end
<tds>
right
<apeiros_>
X::Y::C == A::B::C
<tds>
that's a much easier way ;)
<tds>
little tired this morning
<apeiros_>
assuming X::Y exists already, then a plain X::Y::C = A::B::C is sufficient even
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<tds>
yeah
<tds>
so I guess the somewhat naive but only practicable way of determining this is just parsing C.name
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<shevy>
I have two files like http://pastie.org/4194457 - the problem I have is with __FILE__ right now.
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<shevy>
it outputs "From ./file2.rb" right now, but I'd like to output the filename of whatever .rb file calls that method instead
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<shevy>
hmm guess I'll use caller
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<Synthead>
is there a way to shorten x = x / 5?
<Synthead>
could I do something like x +/ 5?
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<cirwin>
x /= 5
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<Synthead>
niiiiiceeee
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<Synthead>
cirwin: thank you!
<xclite>
curious about that leap of logic, though =p
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<warlock_handler>
can I directly execute GIMP filters (image manipulation filters) in ruby? there is a GIMP lib in ruby... but thats to create ruby plugins for gimp
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<shevy>
now he didnt stay long :P
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<rambda>
so I'm looping through a file I've opened, line by line and performing a socket connection based on that input from the file...now I want to take output gained from the socket connection and append it to the end of the line the loop has finished with...can someone point me in the right direction?
<blazes816>
rambda: just throwing this out there (never worked with sockets in ruby), but do you want to map instead of iterate?
<blazes816>
unless you're lazy loading
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<rambda>
blazes816: let me read up on map and the rest of what you mentioned there :D
<rambda>
thanks
<blazes816>
lol
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<rambda>
(yeah, I'm almost completely new to all this..)
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<blazes816>
I assume you're doing something like file.each do |line|. map is just like each, but the element is replaced with whatever you return from inside.
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<blazes816>
it took me a while to understand the functional type methods (map/inject/etc)
<mjb2k>
I'd kinda like to see if that would actually work, file.lines.map!{ |line| line << socket_method(line) }
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<blazes816>
as long as they're synchronous
<blazes816>
i think it should work
<apeiros_>
mjb2k: you realize that using the bang method there is somewhat pointless?
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<apeiros_>
you could even use each…
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<blazes816>
apeiros_, if it was ! it wouldn't set files.lines
<apeiros_>
blazes816: it doesn't need to
<apeiros_>
he mutates the lines
<mjb2k>
aperios_: no I really didnt put much thought into, just a ballpark methodology
<apeiros_>
mjb2k: tab completion ftw.
<blazes816>
he mutates the line
<blazes816>
not the collection
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<mjb2k>
apeiros_: lol
<apeiros_>
blazes816: and of what do you think the collection consists?
<blazes816>
but if strings are immutable, how does it work that way?
<apeiros_>
*if*
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<apeiros_>
I said in his case
<blazes816>
interesting
<apeiros_>
I didn't make any speculative musings
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<blazes816>
I thought strings in ruby were always immutable
<apeiros_>
hu?
<apeiros_>
I have no idea from where you've got that idea
<apeiros_>
immutable strings are quite the exception in ruby
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<blazes816>
hmm. idk were i got that idea from either.
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<blazes816>
too much language switching I guess
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<Synthead>
with PTY.spawn in a block, is there a way I can wait for all child processes to exit?
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<Synthead>
and keep the block open until then?
<shevy>
blazes816: think of strings are objects that respond to methods and whose main data is stored in self, which can be changed, even with replace()
<shevy>
*as
<blazes816>
I think i'm thinking of R_STRING or whatever
<rambda>
went AFK, but reading up on the discussion...does map mean that it will replace each line I'm looping over with output from the socket?
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<blazes816>
the under the hood. but again, I could be completely wrong
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<blazes816>
rambda: yes, but as pointed out you don't need map in this case.
<rambda>
blazes816: ok, still reading...
<blazes816>
you can do line << socket_operation(line)
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<blazes816>
but don't ask me why ;)
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<rambda>
lol
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<shevy>
rambda: think of .map as .apply_on_each_line or on_each_element
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<monvillalon>
I need a y Ruby tidbit for a Chef recipe that saves the response of an url into a variable, can some body help
<Synthead>
any thoughts about PTY.spawn?
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* offby1
watches the tumbleweeds skitter down Main St
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<mjb2k>
monvillalon: take a look at OpenURI in the Ruby Std-Lib
<monvillalon>
mjb2k: thanks
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<monvillalon>
mjb2k: it seems to be what I need, but since I don't know ruby I don't know how to import it?
<Ionic`>
does ruby use pass by value or by reference?
<Ionic`>
(i.e. can I safely alter parameters passed to my function without worrying about it changing outside stuff?)
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<Ionic`>
ah, by value
<Ionic`>
hm, no, by reference
<any-key>
I prefer to pass by dereference
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<Ionic`>
any-key: don't make me unwrap you
<any-key>
>.>
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<yxhuvud>
Ionic`: neither. It passes the reference by value. This differs from pass by reference in that some values are stored in the reference itself.
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<monvillalon>
mjb2k: thanks, i was trying module and somehow in irb output stopped working
<mjb2k>
unless you're using ruby 1.8.x, then you may need to find the 1.8.x version of the docs
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<any-key>
...then punch yourself in the face for still using 1.8.x
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<Tasser>
and install 1.9
<rambda>
starting to think it would be easier to simply pull my columns out of the csv file and just create a new file with those variables + the output from the loop
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<cakehero>
I have unicorn processes w/a preloaded app that are running out of memory (can't spawn new workers) - any smart ways for me to profile the setup to debug this?
<Tasser>
cakehero, #rubyonrails might have more expirience with that kind of fun
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<cakehero>
okay cool, it happens to not be rails but I can ask there
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<cakehero>
Same difference I'm sure
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<mjb2k>
what is a unicorn process?
<any-key>
it involves rainbows
<Tasser>
and their processing to shitty rainbows
<havenn>
mjb2k: when enough raindrops form, unicorns appear
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<tintin>
Can i suggest to change feature/syntax or something of ruby here? Is this channel to say this?
<any-key>
mimay: first things first, try condensing that regex...
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<any-key>
or break that up into multiple lines and use gsub! and sub!
<any-key>
assuming sub! is a function :P
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<mjb2k>
Ionic`: convert your matchdata to an array with .to_a, then you can use .each ( I think (
<any-key>
that .each {} deserves to be on multiple lines, use "do" instead of curlies
<any-key>
mjb2k: you are correct
<havenn>
tintin: This is the IRC for the American documentary style reality television series on the Style Network about an overweight Southerner. You probably want #ruby-lang
<tintin>
So please remove this sign (<) and add extends to indicate inheritance
<mimay>
can someone improve it on the pastie?
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<tintin>
class a extends Core
<tintin>
The < is a special arithmatic/comparison operator
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<Ionic`>
mjb2k: ah, yeah, that may be an idea
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<Ionic`>
yeah, but I want to go through it... or... well...
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<any-key>
to_a.each will work
<Ionic`>
sure, it does
<Tasser>
so is your code, the only thing we'll ever see of you
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<any-key>
hehehe
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<Ionic`>
Tasser: hm? :p
<shevy>
now I want to see pics from any-key
<any-key>
nope
<any-key>
I prefer anonyminity
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<Ionic`>
any-key is a hot redhead
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<amh345>
im trying to clean up a phone number field. is phone_number.delete('^0-9') the best way to ensure that only numbers are saved? it looks like .delete('^0-9') removed hyphens and spaces without issue. i just want ti make sure there arent any gotchas
<Ionic`>
like adam (savage)
<Tasser>
any-key, fitting, there was just a part in the track where the singer kind of puked in the micro...
<shevy>
there are no girls here
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<keppy>
I have a noob active record questions the #rails people wont help me with. If anyone is interested...
<shevy>
keppy: activerecord is too tightly coupled to rails, I dont know many who use it without also using rails
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<any-key>
it's not unheard of but rails people know it much better
<amh345>
any-key: ill check out that link.
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<any-key>
it's just a tool for trying out regex
<shevy>
it's like a big octopus that grows... rails
<amh345>
keppy: out of curiosity, what is the question?
<Tasser>
amh345, don't feed the troll!!
<amh345>
oh. it's a troll?
<amh345>
oppps
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<keppy>
nope
<tintin>
havenn: What is many things
<shevy>
that is a philosophical question
<shevy>
:D
<keppy>
amh345: my spec is giving me an undefined method 'proposition' for #<User:xxxxxxxxx> when I try to do this: https://gist.github.com/3042484
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<keppy>
amh345: Propositions and Oppositions both belong_to :debate, but a User has_many :propositions and has_many :oppositions. Anyway this is only my 2nd rails project and I am most likely being retarded so feel free to flame me if you have the answers. Will take flaming for answers
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<Ionic`>
mh nah I don't even need to iterate through the matchdata object, sorry
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<keppy>
seattle.rb tonight? anyone going?
<havenn>
tintin: Ruby uses the same character in difference context for different meanings. The '<' character has many meanings in different contexts.
<tintin>
havenn: Yes, that's why i suggest to use 'extends' keyword to indicate inheritance
<tintin>
So change the rule/grammer/syntax
<havenn>
tintin: Mixins!
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<havenn>
Isn't it just Rails who even use the This < That these days? =P
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<havenn>
tintin: There is an extends btw.
<amh345>
keppy, so it fails on line 11?
<tintin>
No, that is extend, not extends
<keppy>
amh345: yes
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<tintin>
So if the grammer changes, so you have to re-write a lot of ruby program/code including rails and rails app, right?
<codeAdmiral>
Alright, i'm a freshman who has writen Java for a couple of years, and i am just starting Ruby. Does anybody have any suggestions on a good starting place?
<mjb2k>
hmm, i just noticed this: "You have “mixin’s” instead of interfaces." on that page, I think that is a bit of a stretch, there are significant differences between ruby mixins and java interfaces
<Ionic`>
hmm, ruby's String class lacks mid/left/right? :/
<Tasser>
Ionic`, what would they do?
<Ionic`>
well... you could emulate it with [] I guess
<tintin>
They would re-write rails , so what's wrong?
<amh345>
^0-9. why no detect spaces/hyphens?
<tintin>
havenn: They would re-write rails replacing < to extends , so what's wrong?
<Ionic`>
indeed, [1..-0] SHOULD work, if life was perfect :(
<Ionic`>
but ruby returns "", oh well
<apeiros_>
amh345: because you want [^0-9]
<apeiros_>
just ^0-9 means match "start of string", "0", "-", "9"
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<amh345>
oh FFS
<tintin>
havenn: ?
<amh345>
apeiros_: thanks dude
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<tintin>
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<Tasser>
Ionic`, [1..-1]
<Ionic`>
Tasser: uh... why is it -1?
<havenn>
tintin: Ruby core will not break thousands of Ruby apps, when the '<' used as such isn't really ambiguous.
<Tasser>
Ionic`, because -0 doesn't work
<Ionic`>
Tasser: yeah, but... hm
<Ionic`>
shouldn't -1 stop before the last char?
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<havenn>
tintin: No apps are broken because people thing Rails is greater than Activerecord. But backwards compatibility is really important.
<tintin>
havenn: If they re-write apps, would it be broken, replaing < to other keyword should not be a hard way
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<amh345>
interesting. in console >> "12-4 555".de lete('^0-9') removes anything not 0-9 . in rubular i have to use [^0-9] to make it function. but using brackets[^0-9] in console "12-4 555".de lete('[^0-9]') actually returns "- " . it mist be something in the delete method.
<Ionic`>
oh well...
<Tasser>
Ionic`, 0..-1 is the whole string
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<Ionic`>
Tasser: yep, I get that
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<Ionic`>
Tasser: I wonder why they use -1 instead of -0 though
<Tasser>
because -0 => 0.@- => 0
<Ionic`>
0.@?
<Tasser>
try it. 0.send(:@-)
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<Ionic`>
that's giving me a parse error
<tintin>
havenn: Is re-writing/replacing < to other keyword a hard way?
<Tasser>
Ionic`, 0.send("@-")
<Ionic`>
ah
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<Ionic`>
undefined method @- for FixNum
<Ionic`>
letssee what the fixnum doc says
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<Ionic`>
ok
<havenn>
tintin: It would require tens of thousands of lines of code to change. I think the question is, why? Is it worth it? Is it even something we want to be doing?
<Ionic`>
0.send("-@") == 0
<Tasser>
fuck
<Ionic`>
well... ook
<Tasser>
well, you see the point
<Ionic`>
that explains it
<Ionic`>
sure
<apeiros_>
0.send(:-@)
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<havenn>
tintin: if you'd like to extends, it is trivial to alias it
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<tintin>
havenn: Yes, but you will just replace with a IDE like eclipse or netbeans , just one command and wait
<apeiros_>
and you can actually even call it by 0.-@()
<Ionic`>
0, too, yeah
<apeiros_>
irb doesn't seem to like it, though
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<Ionic`>
apeiros_: likes it for me
<mjb2k>
or you could spend your time doing something useful
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<apeiros_>
Ionic`: my irb fails to print the return value for it
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<Ionic`>
apeiros_: 1.9.3 doesn't
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<Ionic`>
err
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<Ionic`>
irb 0.9.6 v/ ruby 1.9.3
<Tasser>
apeiros_, works in pry
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<tintin>
Tasser: calm down and watch your language
<deryl>
oh no, its tintin again
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<Tasser>
tintin, speed up with your comments, they're a screen behind
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<thyagu>
my cap deploy is not producing files in the releases sub directory in the server, any pointers what went wrong?
<havenn>
<- troll food
<tintin>
lol
<Hanmac>
Information: "-0" is a number, "- 0" is a method call
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<tintin>
lol food
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<Ionic`>
hrm
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<keppy>
I'm writing a book on ruby called "What Went Wrong"
<Ionic`>
I hate writing parsers
<havenn>
You had me at NetBeans.
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<wmoxam>
keppy: Chapter 1: Rails
<Tasser>
Ionic`, lex/yac ?
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<keppy>
Chapter 2: JavaScript
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<Ionic`>
Tasser: I'm trying it with ruby, though probably not the most intelligent way
<wmoxam>
Chapter 3: Hipsters
<keppy>
lol
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<the_jeebster>
lmao
<amh345>
Chapter 4: Dongs
<the_jeebster>
definitely hipsters
<wmoxam>
Chapter 5: Zed Shaw
<the_jeebster>
can't knock ruby :o
<Tasser>
would explain the 90% apple coverage at ruby conferences :-)
<keppy>
but can knock Zed Shaw's hipster dong
<the_jeebster>
yup
<deryl>
dong gone wrong
<anothervenue>
hipster...dong?
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<amh345>
holla at yo dong
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<keppy>
i went to seattle.rb once and was scared away by hipsters. trying again tonight
<keppy>
i felt so uncool that I lied and blurted out "I'm developing an iphone app" :(
<Tasser>
keppy, just grab a huge joint and you're ok
<mjb2k>
Ionic`: I got it to expand just fine: al = "[a-z]"; num = "[0-9]"; regex = /#{al}+#{num}+/
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<Ionic`>
mjb2k: yes, but I don't want it to escape :)
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<Ionic`>
imagine num was just "("
<Hanmac>
why not using \w and \d ?
<shevy>
the last one to have called me hipster is no longer alive
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<keppy>
shevy: your ex wife?
<shevy>
no
<Ionic`>
lol
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<anothervenue>
shevy: Are you running Haiku or Menuet as your main OS?
<shevy>
hmm no... linux :(
<shevy>
haiku is nice as idea, but they are too slowly evolving
<anothervenue>
shevy: Pshhhh, you can't wear the scarf then
<anothervenue>
:D
<Ionic`>
they are evolving?
<shevy>
I dont think ruby works on haikus out of the box
<anothervenue>
Glacier pace
<mjb2k>
Ionic`: like this: s = "("; e = ")"; r = /\w#{s}\d+#{e}\w/ ?
<Ionic`>
mjb2k: this will work, but I want to match a literal s
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<Ionic`>
so Regexp.escape it is
<mjb2k>
I got this resulting regex: /\w(\d+)\w/
<Ionic`>
yeah... but again, not what I wanna do :)
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<shevy>
we need a language to replace C
<keppy>
Ionic & mjb2k, pair regex programmers 4 life
<Ionic`>
shevy: C++ :p
<mjb2k>
so you want to expand the var, but not let it interpret what ever character is might be as a special char
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<Ionic`>
mjb2k: yep
<mjb2k>
i wonder if you could use \\
<Ionic`>
nope
<Ionic`>
this won't expand #{foo}
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<shevy>
Ionic`: well that is not really a substantial improve IMO :\
<Ionic`>
shevy: good enough, I'd say?
<Ionic`>
then again, I have no idea what you need
<shevy>
C++ vs C, I don't feel it can really take the edge
<shevy>
Ionic`: one language to rule them all!
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<shevy>
one language to bind them and in the darkness spank them
<Ionic`>
lol
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<shevy>
ruby is unfortunately too slow :(
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<mjb2k>
seems that \\#{foo} gives the same result as Rexep.escape, but maybe I'm missing something else, oh well, I now understand the problem but I've lost interest in solving it, lol
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<Ionic`>
hehe :p
<Ionic`>
Regexp.escape *is* the resolution
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<mjb2k>
yes i see that, it just didn't appear to be the only solution, I was a little confused when you said \\#{foo} didn't work when it appeared to work to me
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<Ionic`>
oh
<Ionic`>
\\#{foo} does work
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<Ionic`>
but then \\ is not "expanded" to a single \
<mjb2k>
r = "^(.*)\\#{i}(.*)"; if (a =~ /#{r}/); p "yay"; else p "nay"; end
<mjb2k>
that works
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<Ionic`>
mjb2k: ah, yeah, cause \\ is then expanded to \
<mjb2k>
maybe not a better solution, but an explanation to the inconsistency I was seeing
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<the_jeebster>
I have a variable that holds an arel query. is it possible to pass an argument to that variable or can I only pass args in a method?
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<bandu>
hey all.
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<friskd>
Hey guys i'm looking for some terms to google for as i'm new to this space. We have a database of products. fields: name, description i want to start building something that would allow for users to type say "Toilet" and get Toilet Paper as the first result. Not Toilet Bowl etc.
<friskd>
What is that called?
<friskd>
What do i need to learn about to build a system that can bring relavent and related data to my users.
<blazes816>
the_jeebster: you can't pass things to the variable directly. what are you trying to do?
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<bandu>
friskd: fuzzy logic?
<blazes816>
friskd: why not Toilet Bowl?
<the_jeebster>
I'm trying to loop through an array and pass each items attribute to the query
<friskd>
ok. ill add that to my list.
<the_jeebster>
blazes816: I'm trying to loop through an array and pass each items attribute to the query
<friskd>
blazes816: because when people are on my site, they are more likely looking for toilet paper than toilet bowls
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<blazes816>
friskd, gotcha
<friskd>
like go to amazon, type in toilet
<friskd>
it suggest toilet paper first.
<friskd>
out of all the possible things.
<bandu>
interesting.
<blazes816>
friskd: you do that by tracking what people search for, and ranking results accordingly
<bandu>
search IS important. i'm sure there's a field of study for that alone.
<blazes816>
friskd: if everyone search for toilet bowls and not toilet paper, they'd come up
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<blazes816>
the_jeebster: you can pastie or gist your code? I don't quite get what you mean
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<Stumilowy>
i prefer more specific tutorials
<Stumilowy>
that one is too generic
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<mjb2k>
Do you mean it's too basic? click the Documentation link on that page and there are plenty more to choose from
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<offby1>
banisterfiend: is there a way that I can run "pry" so that it can see all the stuff my tests would see, if I were running my tests via "rspec"?
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<workmad3>
Ionic`: ^ <-- only matches start of string... wouldn't surprise me if that's what's failing
<Ionic`>
indeed... what the hell?
<Ionic`>
uhm, actually... that doesn't even what I intended it to do
<Ionic`>
*sigh*
<Ionic`>
even more manual work
<blazes816>
workmad3: surely that's a bug, right?
<blazes816>
if it is in fact the issue
<Ionic`>
blazes816: it is the issue
<mjb2k>
(.+?), isn't that 2 quantifiers in a row?
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<Ionic`>
and even more, match(bla, 1) returns o kenizr...
<Ionic`>
mjb2k: non-greedy match
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<blazes816>
mjb2K: match any character, once or more, greedily
<mjb2k>
oh, ok
<workmad3>
blazes816: is it? should the regex matcher create a new substring when you tell it you want to start matching at the second character of the string?
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<blazes816>
workmad3: perhaps it's intentional. but I feel like if you're specifying to start matching in a different place, then THAT should be considered the beginning of the search string.
<Ionic`>
I'd expect it to no create a new substring but ignore everything up to pos
<blazes816>
but perhaps others disagree.
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<Ionic`>
instead, match creates a new substring or something
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<shevy>
wish the ruby bindings to qt and gtk would be better and more uptodate
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<mjb2k>
whoo hooo!! Emerging from JAXB hell, going home to work on one of my Ruby projects now!!! ( sorry for the digression, just had to share my elation )
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<shevy>
what ruby projects
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<mjb2k>
favorite one right now is a "Enterprise Ready" password manager
<mjb2k>
rails app
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<mjb2k>
I'm hoping to use it to replace the pile of crap we're using now and be the first app in the door in my long term goal of pushing php out and ruby in
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<mjb2k>
unfortunately it's nothing I will be releasing public any time soon, due to employment agreements. I do plan to ask for ownership of the app at some point though. Then I would definitely release it
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<shevy>
oh railsy
<shevy>
closed source railsy
<shevy>
:D
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<shevy>
I'd wish .cgi wouldn't be so annoying to use
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<Tasser>
shevy, rails needs AGPL ;-)
<Ionic`>
shevy: .cgi is ok, .fcgi is worse
<mjb2k>
2nd place personal project is a GUI in ruby / GTK2 for a media server front end, but I'm still unsure if it's going to stay on ruby/GTK or move to java/swing
<shevy>
what is AGPL?
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<atmosx>
good night everyone
<shevy>
atmosx!!! dont leave us!!!!!
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<Ionic`>
though generally... I have no idea how to debug cgi stuff
<shevy>
yeah Ionic`
<Ionic`>
that's a pain in the (are we PG?)
<atmosx>
shevy: I know that ruby's future depends on my heavily, but I have to get some sleep :-P I'm working at the pharmacy tomorrow
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<shevy>
hehe ok cya atmosx
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<atmosx>
shevy: do you want me to kill someone by supplying the wrong drug? :-P
<atmosx>
hahaha
<atmosx>
good night ppl :-)
<Ionic`>
atmosx: I'd like to have some drugs, please
<Ionic`>
pain relief ones, preferably
<atmosx>
Ionic` sure, you can pay via paypal and mail me the address
<atmosx>
I can send you a natural drugs that requires no prescription
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<atmosx>
i'ts a sort of painkiller
<atmosx>
with a sort of natural narcotic
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<Ionic`>
urgh, no thanks, I like me chemical stuff ;P
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<atmosx>
hahaha
<mjb2k>
like some vicodin
<atmosx>
ask shevy I'm sure he knows how to prepare cocaine ;-)
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<graspee>
vicodin sucks because it has paracetemol in it
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<mjb2k>
i actually had vicodin prescribed and it did great for me, but when my wife had it for back problems and didn't do anything for her
<blazes816>
mjb2k: I got vicodin prescribed once and it just made my heart race really bad. my mother eats the stuff like candy
<shevy>
atmosx: I am more interested in designing new biomolecular machines (enzymes), not so much in classical chemistry
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<fowl>
shevy, machines that wil massage your synapses to release dopamine and induce euphoria
<mjb2k>
(whoa, deleted overly political comment), servlet fixed, now I'm really leaving, I'll miss you shevy... ( tear )
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<Paradox>
particularly
<Paradox>
i'm looking for coolline's config on OS X
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<tramm>
can anybody advise me where i should put my "require 'i18n'" in a ruby application like octopress... ?
<Paradox>
sigh octopress
* Paradox
hides
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<residentwhackjob>
\o
<tramm>
i manage to get my test application work, but without any real knowledge of ruby it's hard to understand how the whole application with all the gems runs together and where i should define this requirement.
<tramm>
Paradox, what's so scary about octopu... press?
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<Paradox>
tramm, its just a giant nightmare to work with if you want to do anything non-standard
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<Paradox>
since its built atop jekyll, nothing quite works right
<Paradox>
like…try using haml templates with it
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<gloriaC991>
hey, is there a build-in way to convert a escape a string the way it would be escaped if it were a unix filename? example: filename".txt becomes "filename\".txt" (all quotes included)
<gloriaC991>
built-in*
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<gloriaC991>
wow let me rewrite that message entirely
<gloriaC991>
hey, is there a built-in way to escape a string the way it would be escaped if it were a unix filename? example: filename".txt becomes "filename\".txt" (all quotes included)
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<shadoi>
gloriaC991: that has nothing to do with unix filenames and everything to do with how your shell handles certain characters in filenames.
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<gloriaC991>
shadoi: yep i know. i'm just trying to duplicate the algorithm
<shadoi>
And the answer is no. :)
<gloriaC991>
actually
<gloriaC991>
inspect/dump do the right thing
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<shadoi>
This works as you'd expect: 'filename".txt'
<gloriaC991>
they just don't do it intelligently
<shadoi>
But it may not mirror every case for shells and filenames.
<gloriaC991>
(they do it even if there are no special chars)
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<tramm>
i suppose i have to put my require in the Rakefile or something to make it work...
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