#ruby on 2012-01-27 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:01 <sdferfx> Can someone translate this for me? t = bg 'ruby -e"sleep 4; puts ARGF.read"', 0=>stdin, 1=>stdout, 2=>stderr ? It doesn't seem to work in Ruby 1.9.3 and I would like to have the functionality it shows is possible (getting the handles for stdx from a background thread)

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00:07 <Boohbah> robert_: https://gist.github.com/1686025

00:08 <robert_> oh, sweet.

00:08 <Boohbah> i don't think it will work for ipv6, though :)

00:09 <robert_> yeah, ip6 isn't dotted :p

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00:16 <sdferfx> what would be a ruby equivalent of Python's if not?

00:17 <heftig> sdferfx: if not works

00:17 <heftig> unless is the idiomatic one

00:17 <heftig> if ! is there, too

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00:18 <Boohbah> unless comes from perl

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00:28 <sdferfx> experimenting here in ruby. this closure syntax is not working: http://dpaste.com/693752/ . anyone know what I am doing wrong?

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00:28 <psye> is this real? -> http://adf.ly/50eZt

00:28 <sdferfx> also, thanks heftig ;)

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00:37 <abetterlie> quick question. I'm trying to do some string interpolation inside 2 nested quotes, but I'm getting a syntax error, unexpected tIDENTIFIER, expecting $end

00:37 <abetterlie> the string looks like this

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00:38 <abetterlie> conn.bind("uid = #{UserName}, ou=people, dc=inc, dc=com","#{CurrentPassword}")

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00:39 <abetterlie> any ideas?

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00:40 <heftig> sdferfx: need to call the lambda using time_over[20] or time_over.call(20)

00:40 <sdferfx> thanks heftig, got it :)

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00:48 <abetterlie> anyone... please?

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00:50 <abetterlie> nm

00:50 <abetterlie> cheers

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00:51 <sdferfx> I am using open4::background to spawn a process. I want to print its stdout as it is being written. I don't know how to do this -- it seems I can only print one line at a time or have to entirely wait on the process. Any advice?

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00:58 <sdferfx> looks like I just need to use a type that automatically aggregates all data instead of string. Is there one of these in stdlib?

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01:19 <gogo_it> newbie question; Why do I get this? http://pastie.org/3260348

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01:21 <zetsubo> you need the method before it's used

01:21 <zetsubo> like, it's not defined, when it's encountered

01:22 <gogo_it> thank you!

01:22 <zetsubo> np

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01:28 <evanesco> I read somewhere that I should install something called "rvm" to manage ruby installations -- does this sound right?

01:29 <canton7> if you want multiple versions of ruby installed at once, sure

01:29 <evanesco> ah, don't want that :) so I can just install the current version and not worry about it?

01:29 <canton7> yup, no problem there

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01:30 <evanesco> great. and as for sinatra, do I just ruby -rubygems whatever.rb and let it do its thing, or is there a more "official" way to set up ruby+sinatra to work as a nice background/server process?

01:30 <evanesco> (totally new to this and sorry for the noobish questions)

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01:32 <canton7> if you've got ruby 1.9, you don't need -rubygems

01:32 <evanesco> ah

01:33 <deploy> what does this mean?

01:33 <evanesco> but what's the best way to keep this running as a system service? I'm used to Apache + PHP where it's all just kind of set up to automatically run at boot and such

01:33 <canton7> then "ruby whatever.rb", "rackup", "thin start", etc, are fine for development. For running a proper server, thin can handle config files for multiple processes, or you can use foreman

01:33 <deploy> Object <= User #=> false

01:33 <canton7> or passenger + apache, if that floats your boat

01:33 <evanesco> ah, foreman. I'll look into that, thanks

01:34 <evanesco> nah, forget Apache :) I'm going all Ruby :)

01:34 <deploy> the Object class doesn't inherit from the User class?

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01:34 <banisterfiend> deploy: yes

01:35 <deploy> ic cool thanks

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01:37 <deploy> anyone know where that's documented?

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01:38 <deploy> i see BasicObject#==

01:38 <deploy> but can't find <=

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01:39 <jlogsdon> deploy: http://ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Module.html#method-i-3C-3D

01:40 <deploy> awesome

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01:52 <CannedCorn> hey guys when you include a module it doesn't run the methods that are included right?

01:52 <banisterfiend> CannedCorn: no

01:52 <nwonknu> Fiend of banisters.

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01:53 <shevy> onku of nwon

01:53 <nwonknu> Clever.

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01:55 <CannedCorn> hrm

01:55 <frosty1313> is there any way to make irb NOT print out every return value from a ruby script?

01:56 <banisterfiend> frosty1313: use pry instead http://pry.github.com (shameless self promotion, as usual :P)

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01:57 <gogo_it> can someone point me in the direction of reading lines from a CSV and editing those lines, one by one?

01:57 <frosty1313> banisterfiend: reading ... reading ...

01:57 <jlogsdon> gogo_it: http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.2/libdoc/csv/rdoc/CSV.html

01:57 <jlogsdon> google 'ruby csv'

01:57 <frosty1313> looks interesting, I'm still wondering why the problem popped up initially

01:57 <banisterfiend> frosty1313: anyway in pry you just have to use: puts "hi";

01:58 <frosty1313> it wasn't happeneing before

01:58 <banisterfiend> frosty1313: the ending semi-colon prevents the return value showing

01:58 <jlogsdon> banisterfiend: i <3 pry. thank you so much for making it

01:58 <banisterfiend> jlogsdon: np

01:58 <frosty1313> ok wierd, I could've sworn that my scripts weren't doing that 2 months ago when I last touched ruby

01:58 <frosty1313> thanks though

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01:59 <banisterfiend> jlogsdon: released a new version yesterday

01:59 <gogo_it> jlogsdon: I read is, but is all seems like you can not edit a single line. It's either writing to a file, or reading from it and if you write to a file, it deletes the file, does not edit

01:59 <banisterfiend> jlogsdon: update it, then go gem install pry-coolline :)

01:59 <banisterfiend> for live syntax highlighting

02:00 <jlogsdon> banisterfiend: :O

02:00 <jlogsdon> thats insanely cool

02:00 <CannedCorn> are you guys sure including a module doesn't make class methods run

02:01 <banisterfiend> CannedCorn: it depends on the module, some people can make it do that

02:02 <banisterfiend> if the module has hooks defined, etc

02:02 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: You don't do much C any more, I suppose.

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02:02 <banisterfiend> nwonknu: yes i do

02:02 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: Ah right.

02:02 <banisterfiend> nwonknu: https://github.com/banister/binding_of_caller

02:02 <banisterfiend> nwonknu: how do oyu know me?

02:02 <gogo_it> is it even possible to edit a CSV file?

02:03 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: ##C

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02:03 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: Probably years prior to pry.

02:03 <banisterfiend> nwonknu: ah ok, what was your nickname there?

02:03 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: parser.

02:03 <banisterfiend> oh ok

02:04 <nwonknu> Used to come here + #ruby-pro. Haven't for a long time.

02:04 <banisterfiend> nwonknu: most of my C is confined to messing with ruby internals though :)

02:04 <nwonknu> banisterfiend: Ah.

02:04 <nwonknu> Less Zhivago in your life then.

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02:05 <banisterfiend> hehe i didnt mind him too much

02:05 <banisterfiend> i was banned by pragma_ anyway

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02:09 <nwonknu> I wouldn't worry about it, his "claim2fame" was a bot anyway.

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02:14 <banisterfiend> hehe

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03:32 <plato> hey guys! I'm new to ruby

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03:32 <plato> I would like to do something if an array does not include a particular object

03:32 <plato> how can I negate this? if nyms.include?(thislink.source)

03:33 <plato> i.e. i want it to return true if nyms doesn't include thislink.source so I can add it to nyms

03:33 <plato> if its already there, i want to do something different

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03:36 <plato> oh poop its actually more complicated than that...

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03:38 <plato> hm. i was building an array of hashes but i think it's extraneous and i might be able to get away with just the hash

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03:40 <plato> is there a way to add to hashes, other than hash.merge

03:41 <banisterfiend> plato: how do u want to add them

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03:43 <plato> banisterfiend: i have a list of Nyms, during my method I will be incrementing or decrementing a score for each nym

03:43 <celestius> hey all - lets say i have a script that is reading stuff from ARGF, but i want to periodically ask the user if we should continue. i can't do STDIN.gets, cause that will just read from whatever file has been piped/redirected to ARGF. what do?

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03:44 <plato> for now, I just want to return a hash of {Nym => int}

03:44 <banisterfiend> plato: "Nym" ?

03:44 <plato> banisterfiend: a class I defined

03:44 <plato> short for pseudonym

03:45 <tectonic> celestius: I guess you could print to STDERR "Continue? Hit control-c" and then add an interrupt handler.

03:45 <tectonic> celestius: ugly, though

03:45 <celestius> hm

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03:50 <sdwrage> with FileUtils, is there a method to copy one file over to another folder even if that folder doesn't exist?

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03:51 <sdwrage> example: photos/user_id/5/33551/photo_34234234234.jpg to avatars/5/photo_355556666.jpg

03:51 <sdwrage> and it would create avatars and 5 if it doesn't exist

03:51 <sdwrage> and copies the file

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03:53 <plato> ok guys all I really need to know is, is there a way to negate an expression

03:53 <plato> like thislink.is_a(Link).!

03:53 <plato> or something

03:53 <banisterfiend> plato: boolean negate?

03:53 <plato> or an "if not" statement or something

03:54 <plato> yes, all i need is a boolean negate for now

03:54 <banisterfiend> plato: then it's the same as in any other language :P

03:54 <banisterfiend> plato: !

03:54 <banisterfiend> plato: !expr

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03:55 <plato> banisterfiend: ok, thanks

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03:58 <sdwrage> Hey guys. I tried using this: FileUtils.mkdir_p(File.dirname(@user.avatar.path))

03:59 <sdwrage> and it says that "avatar" already exists

03:59 <sdwrage> is there a way for it to skip that folder if it does exist and create the sub folders?

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03:59 <sdwrage> The output of the file.dirname output is "/Users/sdwrage/Work/rails/projecttwo/public/avatars/13/131210"

04:00 <sdwrage> it is getting hung up on the first folder and halting.

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04:05 <plato> sdwrage: what's @user.avatar.path returning?

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04:05 <sdwrage> nvm I found out why… someone decided it was a smart idea to put a symlink there

04:05 <sdwrage> :P

04:05 <plato> ha

04:05 <sdwrage> I didn't see it in textmate

04:05 <plato> problem = solved

04:06 <sdwrage> yep

04:06 <sdwrage> :)

04:06 <plato> isnt it awesome when its a simple solution

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04:08 <smtp__> hey

04:08 <smtp__> When I'm inputting text, how can I save any newlines that are in the input? Right now I lose them and they just show up as a space. I'm doing this: %p = f.text_area :description, :class => 'text-input large-input', :rows => 12

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04:11 <Phrogz> smtp__: This is #rubyonrails you are asking about?

04:12 <smtp__> yep

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04:12 <Phrogz> smtp__: Perhaps try that channel :)

04:12 <robyurkowski> smtp__: you need to use, at a minimum, the simple_format helper to turn \ns into <br>s

04:13 <robyurkowski> but do ask in #rubyonrails

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04:13 <Phrogz> smtp__: HTML <textarea> are delimited by \r\n when submitted, IIRC?

04:13 <shevy> are they??

04:13 <shevy> though

04:13 <shevy> I think you may be right

04:14 <smtp__> I believe so

04:14 <shevy> I remember in good old ruby cgi I appended "\r\n"

04:14 <shevy> :)

04:14 <robyurkowski> smtp__: http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActionView/Helpers/TextHelper.html#method-i-simple_format

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04:14 <shevy> one day I should learn ruby on rails, get a ruby on rails related job and get real filthy rich

04:14 <robyurkowski> haha

04:15 <robyurkowski> rails doesn't get you filthy rich

04:15 <robyurkowski> being a great programmer does

04:15 <smtp__> reading that, thank you!

04:15 <Phrogz> Yes, but in comparison to so many Ruby on Rails programmers, even shevy appears great.

04:15 <robyurkowski> but there's no time like the present

04:15 * Phrogz ducks

04:15 <robyurkowski> lol

04:15 <robyurkowski> it's true, in the sense that any hot skill will have its share of posers

04:16 <robyurkowski> i think we can all thank our lucky stars it's not PHP though

04:16 <Boohbah> *poseurs

04:16 <robyurkowski> or else we'd have even more mediocrity at hand

04:16 <shevy> Phrogz I just wanna make a lot of money!

04:16 <shevy> and spend it on beautiful beaches

04:17 <shevy> with chocolate rum, bacardi and a lot of sun

04:17 <Boohbah> s/ea/it/

04:17 <robyurkowski> nah

04:17 <smtp__> do you know the syntax for incorporating the simple_format helper into my line of code...?

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04:18 <Phrogz> shevy: The beautiful beaches don't want you to spend your money on them.

04:18 <Phrogz> smtp__: Definitely a #rubyonrails question.

04:18 <smtp__> ok thanks

04:18 <robyurkowski> smtp__: when you're echoing the stuff, do something like '= simple_format h(@YOUR_TEXT_FIELD_HERE)'

04:18 <shevy> Phrogz man! what else is there to do with lots of money...

04:18 <robyurkowski> but seriously, ask in #rubyonrails

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04:21 <sdwrage> Does anyone know of a solution with paperclip for copying one file attachment in a model to another model taking into account settings for each attachments save paths?

04:23 <__null> I'm running the latest rails with passenger. In my routes.rb I have root :to => 'home#index' (which points to the correct controller + etc.. but when i go to http://stateofblackasheville.org/ i don't see the routing happening

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04:23 <__null> i've done touch tmp/restart.txt and still nothing

04:24 <__null> am i missing something?

04:24 <__null> my .htaccess should have the correct settings, too

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04:24 <__null> cross that, it doesn't!

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04:25 <shadoi> __null: try #rubyonrails

04:26 <shadoi> I haven't used rails in ages, but it sounds like a route for home#index would point to http://domain/home

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04:27 <__null> thanks shadoi, i'll try that channel. but it's taking the root folder and handling it to the home#index page

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04:28 <smtp__> it works. thanks again!!!!!!!

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04:37 <plato> is super() called automatically from my child's initialize method or am I responsible for that

04:38 <plato> and, if I define an initialize method in my child, will I still have access to the (differently named) instance variables I defined in the parent's initialize method?

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04:43 <Hanmac1> plato you need to call super

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04:44 <shadoi> and you need to come out of your cave.

04:44 <[[thufir]]> lol. a good greek classics reference is always funny.

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04:47 <plato> i am trying to do x={:a=>1,:b=>2} ; x[a]++ to increment a's value from 1 to 2

04:47 <banisterfiend> plato: stop doing that and pls read a book on ruby :)

04:47 <plato> it gives me an unhelpful syntax error when i try and run my tests and fails silently in irb

04:47 <shadoi> x[a] += 1

04:47 <banisterfiend> plato: buy a book and read it before you start guessing syntax ;) pls.

04:47 <plato> banisterfiend: i spent the last two days reading books on ruby...

04:48 <plato> banisterfiend: this is the first day i am coding, you cant expect me to remember it all

04:48 <plato> but ty for the help guys

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04:52 <brownies> two days, whoa

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04:57 <plato> yep i read matz's tutorial and why's poignant guide to ruby

04:57 <robyurkowski> keep going :)

04:57 <robyurkowski> practice will help a ton

04:57 <plato> its too much fun to just code it

04:58 <robyurkowski> keep reading good code

04:58 <banisterfiend> plato: dont believe robyurkowski

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04:58 <banisterfiend> plato: the best way to learn ruby is to take a psychedelic drug (like peyote) and meditate with an open ruby book, when you go to sleep and wake up the next day you'll know everything

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05:08 <Hanmac> i would say that learning ruby IS the psycgedelic drug

05:09 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: yeah i've been mainlining it for a while now ;)

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05:18 <shevy> my drug is called youtube

05:19 <banisterfiend> shevy: i thoguth your drug of choice was heroin

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05:20 <shevy> nah

05:20 <shevy> youtube is cheapest

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05:23 <js__> Any recommendations for the best ruby book for a newbie?

05:23 <banisterfiend> js__: new to programming or just ruby?

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05:24 <js__> New to ruby, sorry been doing c, java, abap for 10+ yrs

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05:26 <November> js__: Programming Ruby 1.9 (The PickAxe) worked for me.

05:28 <js__> Yep looking at the Pickaxe one but thinking the Matz one would be good too: (the ruby programming language)

05:28 <shevy> js__ work through this here as quickly as possible at least once http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/?Chapter=00

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05:29 <banisterfiend> js__: then you'll probably be fine with 'eloquent ruby'

05:30 <Boohbah> a =*('a'..'z');b =*('A'..'Z');c =*('0'..'9');a = a + b + c

05:30 <Boohbah> what is the right way to do this?

05:30 <banisterfiend> Boohbah: what are oyu trying to do

05:31 <Boohbah> make an array with a-zA-Z0-9

05:31 <banisterfiend> Boohbah: what ruby version?

05:31 <Boohbah> 1.9

05:32 <banisterfiend> Boohbah: [*('a'..'z'), *('A'..'Z'), *('0'..'9')]

05:33 <Boohbah> banisterfiend: thanks :)

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05:46 <rippa> http://1d4chan.org/images/7/7d/Bear_lore.png

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05:49 <plato> i saw something in a tutorial that dealt with passing in multiple parameters, something like def initialize(*params)

05:50 <plato> now i can't find anything further. is there a name for that construct

05:50 <plato> i'm trying to pass the parameters on to another instance method from within initialize

05:50 <plato> i'm doing this because I would like it to be able to handle either one or multiple objects being passed in

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05:52 <shevy> yeah * just gathers all arguments

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05:52 <shevy> def initialize(*args)

05:52 <shevy> pp args

05:52 <shevy> end

05:53 <plato> are the args in an array?

05:53 <plato> are they also in an array if there is only one arg?

05:53 <shevy> yeah, automatically

05:53 <shevy> yeah

05:53 <shevy> just test it with pp args in test code

05:53 <shevy> :)

05:53 <shevy> it's the "splat operator" i think, you can probably google for "ruby splat"

05:53 <plato> thanks

05:54 <shevy> http://raflabs.com/blogs/silence-is-foo/2010/08/07/ruby-idioms-what-is-the-splatunary-operator-useful-for/

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05:54 <shevy> though those examples are a bit more complicated than ought to be

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05:55 <a_a_g> plato: this will combine multiple arguments into an array when they are explicitly passed as multiple arguments

05:55 <shevy> plato, http://pastie.org/3261384

05:56 <a_a_g> the best way to work with args would be [*args].each ...

05:57 <plato> ahhh that might be it. i did args.each

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06:02 <michaelgamble> hello

06:03 <michaelgamble> anyone know how i might get stomp server running?

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06:06 <plato> a_a_g: nope. the problem is that I am trying to pass an array as a single parameter, and the splat operator is putting it inside another array

06:06 <plato> i think

06:07 <shevy> array.flatten.each do

06:07 <shevy> args.flatten.each do

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06:07 <shevy> but please upload your code somewhere, it's not easy to debug without the code at hand

06:07 <plato> wow! cool

06:07 <plato> yeah i can pastebin

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06:10 <plato> http://codepad.org/jPg0G3FS the problem was occuring after I built test data in a Dashboard.new(), then passed it to Web.new in the last line of Dashboard

06:11 <michaelgamble> no advice on stomp?

06:11 <michaelgamble> i just get a failure when i try to run it command line

06:13 <shevy> hmm that's a lot of code plato

06:14 <plato> shevy: this is my first ruby program

06:14 <shevy> quite advanced

06:14 <plato> refactoring tips appreciated

06:14 <plato> ty

06:14 <shevy> dunno, my brain tries to keep things very simple

06:15 <shevy> you should align case when on the same indent level though

06:15 <shevy> case var

06:15 <shevy> when "foo"

06:15 <shevy> oh I see

06:15 <shevy> def initialize(*mylinks)

06:15 <shevy> @links=[]

06:15 <shevy> self.addLinks(*mylinks)

06:15 <shevy> end

06:16 <shevy> the second *mylinks is wrong I guess

06:16 <shevy> (mylinks)

06:16 <shevy> or, in addLinks

06:16 <shevy> a .flatten on your array should work

06:16 <plato> yeah i am trying to test that and my urxvt/screen decided to hang

06:16 <shevy> [ %w( abc def ghi ) ] # => [["abc", "def", "ghi"]]

06:16 <plato> what's the %w

06:16 <shevy> [ %w( abc def ghi ) ].flatten # => ["abc", "def", "ghi"]

06:16 <shevy> see the different?

06:16 <shevy> a shortcut to make Arrays

06:16 <shevy> is the same as

06:16 <shevy> ["abc","def","ghi"]

06:16 <plato> rgr

06:16 <shevy> but you dont have to type the "

06:17 <shevy> you can use %w[] too if you like instead. I just like the () with %w

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06:19 <plato> yes that fixed it

06:19 <plato> fuck yeah

06:19 <plato> thanks

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06:32 <shevy> cool

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06:42 <mxweas> is there a gem that will make puts auto indent it's output depending on how many levels deep my code is?

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06:43 <mxweas> ie if it's being run in an instance method it has 2 spaces. 4 spaces if it's in a function being run inside an instance method

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06:46 <burgestrand> mxweas: not as far as I’m aware; I can‘t see it working with non-saved files or C extensions but it’s probably doable otherwise

06:46 <mxweas> too lazy to write it at the moment lol

06:46 <mxweas> maybe in the future

06:47 <burgestrand> you could parse out the file and line from caller and then determine the indent from there; also it won’t work very well if you change the source files during runtime :)

06:48 <shevy> mxweas pry has something that does that, ask banisterfiend

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06:49 <mxweas> too bad I can't look at anything that resembles a stack frame

06:49 <mxweas> although recursive functions would barf indentation then

06:49 <mxweas> burgestrand: ideally it would be based on how many functions deep you are vs line #

06:50 <mxweas> so that way you can call a function from anywhere and the indentation is correct

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06:51 <burgestrand> mxweas: ah, so calling a method within a method would increase the indent as well?

06:51 <mxweas> yes

06:51 <mxweas> keeps the output nice and purdy

06:51 <banisterfiend> mxweas: rails stack traces are sometimes 300 frames deep ;) gooduck with 600 space indent

06:52 <mxweas> not using rails :P

06:52 <mxweas> not working on a rails project at all tbh :P

06:52 <shevy> install pry and play with it mxweas ... gem install pry

06:53 <banisterfiend> shevy: pry doenst have a feature like that

06:53 <shevy> what!

06:53 <banisterfiend> but it does let you explore the stack with the pry-stack_explorer gem

06:53 <shevy> but it indents!

06:53 <banisterfiend> shevy: he's not just tlaking about auto-indenting code

06:53 <shevy> hmm

06:54 <shevy> yeah ok I dunno, he wants some superman indent

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07:13 <davidcelis> who wants to help me name a helper methoddddd

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07:14 <Boohbah> puts "SGVsbG8gd29ybGQh".unpack("m").first

07:15 <davidcelis> ok, that was cool, but not quite what i was looking for

07:15 <davidcelis> but still... cool

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07:15 <Boohbah> def helper_method;end

07:16 <davidcelis> the method is already written, i just need input on whether i can get a better name for it

07:17 <davidcelis> essentially i have a gem to make a recommendation engine going. the objects that can be recommended to a User object declare `acts_as_recommendable` in them. all I can come up with to put in the User class is `acts_as_rater`, or shit that's too long (acts_as_recommendation_receiver, acts_as_recommended_to, etc)

07:17 <davidcelis> just hoping to get some potentially better ideas

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07:18 <davidcelis> maybe acts_as_recommended_to is fine

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07:50 <waxjar> does someone have a handy page bookmarked with licensing stuff?

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08:10 <[[thufir]]> how is if (File.directory? RootCA && http.use_ssl?) different from if (File.directory?(RootCA) && http.use_ssl?)

08:10 <[[thufir]]> what does putting RooCA inside parens do?

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08:11 <shevy> hmm I wanna create a method called '?'

08:12 <shevy> [[thufir]], the second variant is explicit

08:12 <shevy> I would use the second version

08:12 <shevy> the first one could assume that both is part of the argument

08:12 <waxjar> my guess is that && is evaluated first (so you'll get File.directory true)

08:12 <waxjar> or false

08:12 <shevy> consider: (File.directory?(RootCA && http.use_ssl?))

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08:13 <[[thufir]]> first version gives error of `directory?': can't convert true into String (TypeError)

08:13 <plato> mxweas: if you did class Object; def puts; could you count the number of times self.superclass takes to hit nil?

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08:14 <mxweas> I'd like it to work based on function depth though

08:14 <mxweas> ie how many functions deep execution is at the time puts is being called

08:14 <plato> oh my

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08:15 <plato> including if class A calls class B calls class A agian?

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08:15 <plato> perhaps if you overrode whatever method is used to call functions

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08:15 <shevy> [[thufir]] did you read what waxjar wrote

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08:17 <[[thufir]]> yes, read it... The first version, if (File.directory? RootCA && http.use_ssl?) , is ambigious? which "true" can't be converted into a string? RootCA && http.use_ssl is, let's assume, true. that true value can't be converted to string?

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08:17 <shevy> true can be converted to string

08:17 <shevy> but you must make it explicit

08:17 <shevy> true.to_s

08:17 <shevy> or "some #{boolean_value_here}"

08:17 <shevy> in the second variant it gets converted into true

08:18 <shevy> but you should use proper () man

08:18 <shevy> in the second variant it gets *automatically converted into "true"

08:18 <shevy> (String)

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08:18 <[[thufir]]> ok, why would want a String rather than Boolean? or is that flawed question, maybe.

08:19 <waxjar> RootCA && http.use_ssl is considered the argument there

08:20 <waxjar> and RootCA && http.use_ssl translates to true (Boolean)

08:20 <[[thufir]]> good, that makes sense.

08:20 <waxjar> File.directory? expects a path String

08:20 <[[thufir]]> ahhhhhhh.

08:21 <shevy> yeah the file path

08:21 <shevy> puts 'Yup, /tmp is a directory.' if File.directory? '/tmp'

08:21 <[[thufir]]> ok, lack of API knowledge. thanks, shevy and waxjar

08:21 <waxjar> :)

08:22 <shevy> well, don't worry, after a while you will instantly recognize errors like TypeError. It usually happens when a coercion is tried

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08:22 <[[thufir]]> when I read that error I thought "well, I don't want a string anyhow. nonsensical error."

08:23 <[[thufir]]> however, I *did* want a String, because, File.directory? expects a String. which is intuitive, but slipped by me. oh well. thanks again.

08:23 <trave> im new to ruby, just got rbenv set up with todo deploying a simple blog through heroku... but im snagged on a markdown itch thats bugging me. is this the right channel to ask, or is there a more appropriate place?

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08:24 <[[thufir]]> there's #heroku, but your question intrigues this newbie :)

08:25 <trave> its just adding this mysterious "<" char at the bottom of one of the pages for no apparent reason

08:25 <trave> the markdown is just paragraphs of text, nothing fancy

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08:25 <trave> other pages it doesnt happen on

08:26 <trave> er, i shouldnt say pages, i meant one page in particular

08:26 <[[thufir]]> pastie relevant code

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08:27 <trave> the page is long, I'll just try chopping of paragraphs and see if i can track down the culprit

08:27 <trave> the url is: pinpoint.needle.com, the article is the only one so far :]

08:29 <[[thufir]]> err, no ruby code there. huh?

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08:48 <[[thufir]]> that wasn't even remotely ruby related. oh well.

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08:49 <rippa> http://1d4chan.org/images/1/1e/Oh_shit_the_batmarines_by_sonicbrew-d2z88fe.jpg

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09:10 <Johnnus_> i'm having some problems that i suspect are related to ruby more than sinatra (which is what i'm using), maybe i'm not understanding namespacing correctly? could anyone have a look? http://pastie.org/private/mk47bz7kksid6vzromin2a

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09:18 <aquarian_198> this is my first time on irc

09:19 <wallerdev> welcome

09:19 <aquarian_198> thanks

09:19 <aquarian_198> i'm trying to make a file encryptor for carrierwave

09:19 <aquarian_198> so that i store encrypted files on S3

09:19 <aquarian_198> i think i just make a processor

09:19 <aquarian_198> but how do I make it so the file streams through my rails app to the client as a decrypted file?

09:20 <wallerdev> might want to ask in #rubyonrails

09:20 <wallerdev> I've never used carrierwave sorry

09:21 <wallerdev> i imagine you could create your own controller that handles that

09:21 <wallerdev> like DecryptedFilesController

09:21 <wallerdev> and when you send a request there it downloads it from S3 and decrypts it and serves it

09:23 <aquarian_198> ok

09:24 <aquarian_198> thanks for the help

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09:40 <senthil> Anyone here free to help me test out: https://github.com/senthilnambi/OpenAuth2. The last time I used OAuth2 it was a headache, mostly because of lack of examples, so I figured I'll ease some of that pain.

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10:07 <[[thufir]]> Johnnus_: you still there?

10:08 <Johnnus_> [[thufir]]: yeah, oh, and i figured out what was wrong :)

10:08 <[[thufir]]> what was prob?

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10:11 <Johnnus_> Sloppy coding :) I named the module User and the model class was also named User, so it tried calling methods in the module instead

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10:46 <Tasser> what's the correct job description for 'coder' ?

10:46 <banisterfiend> Tasser: computer programmer

10:47 <banisterfiend> or "code monkey"

10:48 <Hanmac> programmer are also IO-Objects ... coffee goes in, source code goes out

10:49 <waxjar> or more general: nerds

10:50 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: you dont drink coffee, you subsist entirely on sweets

10:50 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: you drink liquid honey from crystal goblet with long black tongue

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10:51 <Hanmac> no i feed from monitor radiation

10:53 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: hey do u have a gitub account?

10:53 <banisterfiend> github

10:53 <Hanmac> yeah and a bitbucket

10:54 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: link

10:54 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: why bother with both bitbucket and github btw?

10:55 <Hanmac> because i need an Hg acc for cegui development

10:55 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: name is hanmac on both?

10:56 <Hanmac> yeah

10:57 <banisterfiend> Hanmac: kewl

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11:14 <senthil> Is there a Module#method like there's an Object#method, so I can grab the method as an object and call it?

11:14 <banisterfiend> senthil: yes

11:15 <banisterfiend> senthil: Module#instance_method

11:15 <banisterfiend> but you have to bind it first

11:17 <senthil> banisterfiend: like m = name.instance_method(:method); m.call ?

11:17 <banisterfiend> no

11:17 <banisterfiend> senthil: i dont know what 'name' is there

11:17 <banisterfiend> but

11:17 <senthil> name of the module

11:18 <banisterfiend> MyModule.instance_method(:my_method).bind(my_instance).call

11:18 <senthil> oh!

11:18 <senthil> banisterfiend: so 'bind' means drop the method into object's list of methods?

11:18 <banisterfiend> senthil: but you can only bind to an object that has the module in its ancestor chain

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11:19 <senthil> banisterfiend: isn't that pointless? wouldn't the method already be available then?

11:20 <banisterfiend> senthil: no if it's overriden by a subclass

11:20 <banisterfiend> senthil: the normal use case is for decorating a method

11:20 <banisterfiend> without using god awful aliases

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11:21 <senthil> banisterfiend: how about class methods? can they be used them anywhere?

11:21 <banisterfiend> i dont know what u mean

11:22 <senthil> module Post; def self.class; 'name'; end; end; a = Post.method(:name); a.call

11:22 <senthil> that seems to work

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11:30 <Rubyfan> Guys it is possible to create easy to install windows application in ruby?

11:30 <Rubyfan> sorry for my ignorance about this topic

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11:35 <Tasser> Rubyfan, you want to create an installer for your ruby application?

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11:43 <senthil> banisterfiend: thanks for you help, i'm off

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11:48 <Jeffurson> hi

11:49 <Jeffurson> I need info on deploying a ruby on rails program to apache webserver. The OS is windows

11:50 <Jeffurson> I have to mention that I'm totally new to ruby, so please apologise any misconceptions ... ^^

11:51 <Jeffurson> The application used to run with a ruby development server which ran as a service

11:51 <Hanmac> for rails questions exist an #rubyonrails channel

11:52 <Jeffurson> ok ...

11:53 <Rubyfan> Tasser: I want to create program un Ruby but for desktop and I am courious if that affect user att all for example by making him install something on his PC

11:53 <Rubyfan> I know that for example for java you can automaticly install JRE ,,behind the curtains" so user don't see it.

11:54 <Hanmac> IMO build the exe with Ocra, and then use an external program to make an installer ... (or use 7z-selfextractor)

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12:01 <Rubyfan> Hanmac: will check that are there drawbacks or problem with using ruby for desktop app? I am java programmer and I want to create desktop app but no with java (boring language) ruby seems like fun though :) and I can't program IN C++(c#)etc

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12:02 <relix> hey guys, I updated my rubygems (Mac OS X) and now *all* the gems are generating "invalid date format" in gemspec error

12:02 <relix> I found on stackoverflow that you're "just supposed to edit the gemspec manually" but there are too many gems to do that manually

12:04 <Hanmac> Rubyfan: with windowframeworks like QT and gtk there is no problem. there exist ruby bindings for them

12:04 <Rubyfan> ok so nothing too complicated...

12:05 <relix> anything I can do to fix this? would be great :)

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12:08 <Hanmac> relix does it also happens when you install new gems?

12:08 <relix> Hanmac: I think it only happens for gems installed before rubygems update

12:08 <relix> they run fine, it's just throwing warnings about them all the time I run anything using gem

12:09 <Hanmac> hm maybe remove the gems and reinstall them again?

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12:09 <relix> Hanmac: I think that'll be the only solution

12:09 <relix> a shame though, there are a lot of them ;)

12:10 <Hanmac> sorry if i can not find a better solution ... i never "touch"ed an OSX systen

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12:10 <relix> np, thanks anyway :)

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12:35 <addisaden> hi @all

12:36 <addisaden> is anybody coding music / soundsynthesis with ruby?

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12:37 <addisaden> or has any experience in this?

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12:43 <PaulIIIIIIII> what do yo think when in the forest meets mans grownup triplets width man who have one testicle

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12:44 <Freelancify> good morning folks

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12:45 <addisaden> good morning ;)

12:47 <Freelancify> good morning

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12:47 <Freelancify> addisaden: do you happen to be on Hacker News? I just posted a story telling how I learned Rails in 12 weeks

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13:00 <Hanmac> XD the vlc build on lunchpad use many deprecated functions ... sometimes defined in its own header (declared at ../../../include/vlc_objects.h:51) [-Wdeprecated-declarations]

13:00 <Hanmac> ups wrong channel *fool me*

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13:12 <`brendan> good morning guys & gals

13:13 <Hanmac> it depends on your localtime and daycycle :P

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13:39 <relix> so I removed all of my gems, reinstalled them, and now my stuff isn't working so well anymore and I still get invalid gemspec errors

13:39 <relix> *sigh*

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13:39 <arturaz> Hey folks. Anybody played with celluloid? http://groups.google.com/group/celluloid-ruby/browse_thread/thread/7d468095aa5e587b#

13:39 * Hanmac feels sorry :(

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13:43 <canton7> relix, rubygems up to date? gem update --system

13:43 <Hanmac> canton7 his problems ARE because he do this (was i rembering correct?)

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13:44 <canton7> ah, I don't have any of the backlog

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13:46 <relix> Hanmac: don't worry about it, I was going to do so anyway ;)

13:46 <relix> canton7: yeah it's up to date

13:47 <relix> so, my dev system is now completely fucked

13:47 <relix> argh which bastard pushed that commit to gems anyway

13:47 <relix> can I uninstall rubygems, remove all the files, and install it again? sounds risky

13:47 <Hanmac> maybe it was the Author of Bumblebee?

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14:00 <relix> well I think I fucked things up completely now

14:00 <relix> bundle install installs all the necessary gems

14:00 <relix> then when I try to start rails it doesn't find it and suggests to run bundle install

14:00 <relix> rrrage

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14:03 <Freelancify> relix: I ran into that prob once.. not sure it's the same situation, but I found out what was happening was the bundle install put up the current/latest version for a gem instead of what I was using before and it messed things up

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14:06 <relix> Freelancify: thanks but I don't think that's the problem here, since I removed them all :)

14:06 <Freelancify> ah,,...

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14:14 <cirbri> Hm what do you suppose would be the quickest way of checking whether something is a valid IPv4 address? I notice Resolv has a regexp for doing just that -- but I dunno how I'd go about using it in, say an if statement

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14:14 <catphish> when using net/http set_form_data in 1.8.7 is there anything i can do to make it encode UTF8 correctly?

14:15 <emocakes> should i feed my dog chocolate?

14:15 <catphish> specifically i'm seeing

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14:15 <cirbri> No, don't do that, emocakes.

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14:16 <cirbri> You can buy chocolate specifically for dogs, that stuff is fine.

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14:16 <catphish> cirbri: /^0*([1-9]?\d|1\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.0*([1-9]?\d|1\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.0*([1-9]?\d|1\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.0*([1-9]?\d|1\d\d|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])$/

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14:16 <catphish> emocakes: if you're being serious, no you shouldn't

14:16 <catphish> it be poisonous for them

14:17 <cirbri> catphish: Yea, I could define a regexp explicitly, sure.

14:17 <cirbri> Don't feed them milk, either.

14:17 <catphish> cirbri: there are other options like an ip address class you can use

14:17 <catphish> which will process it and do other things with it

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14:18 <emocakes> ok, thanks guys

14:18 <emocakes> always can get help in #ruby

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14:18 <cirbri> catphish: That's perfect, the .ipv4? method oughta work good.

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14:18 <catphish> :)

14:19 <emocakes> did you make that regex just then catphish?

14:19 <catphish> no, i googled it like a sane person might

14:20 <emocakes> :p

14:20 <michaeltomer> Anyone know how to write a UTF-8 encoded file in 1.9.2-p290 without a byte order mark? Been trying since yesterday without luck, and Google isn't helping.

14:20 <catphish> now i need to figure out how to rfc2279 encode my UTF8 post data :(

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14:21 <catphish> michaeltomer: what's the problem exactly? file.write(string) should just write the daya

14:21 <catphish> *data

14:21 <michaeltomer> It's getting a byte order mark at the beginning, which is tripping up the Postgres data import utility.

14:22 <michaeltomer> It doesn't seem to happen in older versions of 1.9.2, but it does in p290.

14:22 <rippa> change encoding to binary

14:22 <michaeltomer> You may have to use a text editor to be able to see the BOM at the beginning of the file.

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14:23 <catphish> i'm going to test it now because i don't believe you :)

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14:24 <michaeltomer> Sorry, hex editor, not text editor.

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14:25 <michaeltomer> Writing just as binary still causes a BOM.

14:25 <catphish> http://paste.codebasehq.com/pastes/o2t5os1xcnvwnikp9z

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14:25 <catphish> doesn't happen to me :|

14:25 <michaeltomer> You need to use binread.

14:25 <catphish> huh?

14:25 <michaeltomer> You're reading it as text, not binary.

14:26 <catphish> i wrote a 2-byte character to a file

14:26 <catphish> the resulting file was 2 bytes long

14:26 <catphish> therefore no BOM

14:26 <michaeltomer> Fair enough.

14:26 <catphish> see my 'ls'

14:26 <catphish> more likely the BOM is already in your string

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14:27 <michaeltomer> It's being created by FasterCSV from standard lib.

14:28 <catphish> ok, well that's almost certainly what's doing it then

14:28 <michaeltomer> I find it to be unlikely that CSV is responsible for it, but I suppose it's not impossible.

14:28 <catphish> CSV probably requires a BOM in some standards

14:28 <catphish> either way, it's not ruby's file writing as i just demonstrated

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14:28 <catphish> why not inspect the string that comes from your CSV generation

14:28 <catphish> and check

14:28 <michaeltomer> Okay, that's useful information. It doesn't solve my problem, but it might lead me in the right direction. Thanks.

14:29 <catphish> no problem

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14:38 <Johnnus_> do i need to include something special in ruby 1.9 to use minitest? when trying to do a get '/' in a spec i get ArgumentError: tried to create Proc object without a block, i guess it's trying to use the sinatra method?

14:39 <CannedCorn> guys when you are runing rake tests with test::unit how do you run something at the end of a set of tests

14:39 <CannedCorn> when a class is finshed

14:40 <CannedCorn> err rake test::task

14:40 <CannedCorn> at the end of each file i want something to happen

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14:54 <CannedCorn> guys?

14:54 <thomasfedb> omnomnom corn

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14:55 <CannedCorn> hahaha

14:55 <CannedCorn> so setup and teardown let you specify what happens at the start of each unit test

14:56 <thomasfedb> i don't use test::unit

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14:56 <thomasfedb> sorry

14:56 <CannedCorn> ugh, im stuck, we have three years of tests in here

14:56 <CannedCorn> until i can fix it i'm going to have to have to work with it for a bit

14:56 <CannedCorn> i just want to know how i could get something to run at the start of each file

14:57 <CannedCorn> or TestCase class rather

14:57 <CannedCorn> overriding the initialize method didn't work for me

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14:59 <CannedCorn> found the answer here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/255969/in-rubys-testunittestcase-how-do-i-override-the-initialize-method

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15:00 <Freelancify> I actually shouted you guys out in my blog post today about how I learned Rails in 12 weeks to launch my MVP

15:00 <Freelancify> it's on Hacker News right now.. I think #7 ish

15:01 <Freelancify> spent many hours on this channel!

15:02 <thomasfedb> Freelancify, link me

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15:14 <JonSchuff> Awesome Freelancify, I love seeing finished projects like that, it's a great source of motivation : D

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15:16 <Freelancify> thanks!

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15:30 <thomasfedb> Freelancify, why are you not in #rubyonrails ?

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15:33 <Companion> moarning all

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15:34 <catphish> does anyone know why 1.8.7's set_form_data doesn't encode 8-byte characters properly? or how to make it use multibyte form encoding?

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15:40 <Companion> 1.8.7?

15:40 <Companion> 1.9.3 is out already o.0

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15:44 <Phrogz> catphish: What do you meay by "properly"? And what is this set_form_data? Is this a rails helper?

15:44 <diago> I have a hash of str => value pairs that I pass into a Foo.new; how do I make that hash attrs of the foo instance?

15:44 <Phrogz> catphish: If so, you may have better luck asking in #rubyonrails

15:44 <diago> method_missing will not work in this case

15:44 <diago> *my case

15:44 <catphish> Phrogz: it's a method on net::http::request

15:45 <Phrogz> diago: def initialize( opts={} ); opts.each{ |k,v| instance_variable_set :"@#{k}", v }; end

15:45 <catphish> specifically i'm seeing

15:45 <Phrogz> catphish: You're thinking Unicode? 1.8.x is not Unicode-friendly.

15:46 <catphish> i know

15:46 <catphish> but i'm still hoping the problem can be worked around

15:46 <Phrogz> catphish: So why do you expect multi-byte strings?

15:46 <diago> nice, thanks Phrogz

15:46 <Phrogz> diago: You're welcome.

15:46 <catphish> this is an old app that makes heavy use of Iconv to handle character encodings properly

15:47 <Phrogz> Ah; I know nothing of 1.8x and special encodings; sorry.

15:47 <catphish> sadly net::http's form encoding doesn't handle it well

15:48 <catphish> to be honest i'm not totally sure if

15:48 <catphish> it's 0xed

15:48 <catphish> which would fit in one byte or 2 i suppose

15:50 <Phrogz> catphish: The character í (latin lower case i with acute accent) can be represented by any variety of binary representations, depending on the character encoding.

15:50 <catphish> in utf-8 it should be c3 ad right?

15:50 <Phrogz> It's not in ASCII, it would be different in ISO-8559-1 versus MacRoman

15:51 <Phrogz> catphish: In UTF-8, yes: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/ed/index.htm

15:51 <catphish> so maybe my code is mistakenly representing it as ed

15:51 <Phrogz> catphish: But it's 0x00ED in UTF-16

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15:52 <catphish> thanks, i'll look into why it's becoming 0xed

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15:52 <Phrogz> It's also 0xed in ISO-8559-1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1

15:52 <catphish> though i think it may only be the net::http form encoding that's making the error

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15:52 <catphish> yeah, i think i'm getting latin1 here for some reason :(

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15:54 <catphish> i miss 1.9.3 :(

15:54 <Phrogz> (Amusingly, 0xed in MacRoman is Ì, the opposite accent and case :)

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15:54 <catphish> "

15:55 <catphish> sadly it will take considerably longer to rewrite this app properly using 1.9 than it will to fix this reasonable minor bug

15:55 <catphish> *reasonably

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16:11 <coccia73> mission impossibol

16:11 <koala_man> I have an indented xml file. how can I add a formatted node to it without reformatting the entire document with rexml?

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16:21 <catphish> looks like using ruby 1.8 and the mysql gem, UTF8 doesn't seem to work correctly

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16:34 <asteve> what's wrong with this statement: `return unless File.open(file, 'r').each_line { |l| l != "string" }`

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16:47 <catphish> asteve: File.open(file, 'r').each_line { |l| l != "string" } returns a file

16:47 <catphish> and is therefore always true

16:48 <catphish> you probably need to set a variable in that loop, then use that to determine whether to return

16:49 <catphish> it's not even clear to me what you're trying to achieve

16:49 <catphish> combining unless with != in a loop is bound to confuse humans

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16:50 <asteve> ya, i just want to ensure that a string isn't inside of a file

16:50 <catphish> you want to return if you find the string?

16:50 <asteve> correct

16:51 <catphish> in that case it's easy: File.open(file, 'r').each_line { |l| return if l == "string" }

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16:57 <koala_man> I'm adding a text node to a rexml node with four spaces, but when written out, it just has one space. how do I make it not mangle my text nodes?

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17:07 <koala_man> you have to use Text.new(" ", true)

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17:16 <CannedCorn> where is the documentation for Unit::TEST

17:16 <CannedCorn> would like to override the initialize method

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17:20 <catphish> are regex matches $1 etc threadsafe?

17:20 <asteve> are returns in functions not frowned on?

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17:20 <catphish> asteve: no

17:21 <catphish> asteve: return is put there for you to use :)

17:22 <catphish> returning from inside a block isn't the neatest thing in the world, but in most cases its fine

17:22 <catphish> what is frowned upon is that that is difficult for someone else to understand

17:22 <catphish> if you find it complicated, comment it :)

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18:05 <jeffsmykil> I am getting an undefined method .push for this: namesBoolean[pick].push(true)

18:05 <jeffsmykil> any idea why>

18:05 <Squarepy> what kind of data struct?

18:06 <jeffsmykil> namesBoolean is an array

18:06 <LiquidInsect> an array of booleans?

18:06 <jeffsmykil> yes

18:06 <LiquidInsect> so namesBoolean[pick] is a boolean

18:06 <jeffsmykil> yup

18:06 <Squarepy> ok you're pushing on one element from the array

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18:07 <jeffsmykil> i gues i want to replace

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18:07 <Squarepy> why not assign it then

18:08 <jeffsmykil> how would I go about doing that?

18:08 <LiquidInsect> =

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18:09 <jeffsmykil> oh duh

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18:09 <jeffsmykil> lol

18:11 <Squarepy> good

18:11 <jeffsmykil> thanks guys, sorry for being dense

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18:15 <Squarepy> jeffsmykil, doing the variable.methods, helps with such a throwback

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18:42 <kyb> hi

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18:45 <Phrogz> Hello, kyb.

18:45 <kyb> hi

18:45 <kyb> can u tell me if my slideshow works?

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18:47 <Phrogz> kyb: Only if your slideshow is on a publicly accessible webpage and you give me the URL.

18:47 <Phrogz> And describe what "works" means.

18:47 <kyb> http://99.14.26.190/gangbangmeetmarket/slideshow/

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18:47 <kyb> i mean do u see images?

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18:48 <kyb> ?

18:48 <kyb> it doesnt work on my phone

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18:48 <patrick99e99> can anyone tell me why this doesn't work? http://pastie.org/3264935

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18:48 <kyb> patrick

18:49 <patrick99e99> I get: syntax error, unexpected tAMPER (SyntaxError) :to => (&default_to_address)

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18:49 <kyb> yes

18:49 <kyb> patrick

18:49 <kyb> i cna help

18:49 <patrick99e99> yes?

18:49 <kyb> can u tell me if my sight is running tho?

18:49 <kyb> http://99.14.26.190/gangbangmeetmarket/slideshow/

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18:49 <patrick99e99> does someone here need to boot kyb?

18:50 <kyb> omg

18:50 <kyb> i just need a striaght answer

18:50 <patrick99e99> I am not going to a url with that name

18:50 <kyb> ok fine

18:50 <kyb> i just help someone else then

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18:52 <Phrogz> kyb: No, no images.

18:52 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: You might have more luck asking that question in #rubyonrails; I'm not personally familiar with ActionMailer. Further, you might want to elaborate on what you mean by "doesn't work"

18:53 <Phrogz> kyb: It's trying to load images like http://99.14.26.190/image which are 404

18:53 <kyb> wierd

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18:56 <patrick99e99> Phrogz: well ActionMailer really isn't the relevant to my question.. I am just trying to pass a block into a hash.. def self.foo; lambda { "lol" }; end; .. and then on the class level blah(:to => &foo)

18:56 <patrick99e99> but it's complaining that & cant be there...

18:56 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: Let me look at your code again.

18:56 <kyb> ok is it workin now?

18:56 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: You can either pass a lambda as a param to a method (or make it the value of a hash), or you can pass it as a block. Which do you want?

18:57 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: It should be either default &default_to_address or default to:default_to_address

18:57 <patrick99e99> hmm neither of those seem to work....

18:57 <kyb> ok

18:57 <kyb> works on my phone now

18:58 <patrick99e99> the &default_to_address gives an error unepected &

18:58 <patrick99e99> the default to:default_address gives no error, but the behavior is wrong

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18:59 <patrick99e99> Phrogz: I am trying to use this lambda to access instance variables that are defined later by instance methods

18:59 <patrick99e99> it works fine if I do default :to => lambda { @my_var }

18:59 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: So it would work if you did: default{ @user.email if @user; @deputy.email if @deputy } ?

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19:00 <patrick99e99> Phrogz: yeah that works, but I have lots of conditions and it starts to look real ugly inline like that

19:00 <Phrogz> OK, so you don't want to pass a black to the 'default' method, you do want to pass a hash.

19:00 <patrick99e99> so I wanted to put it in a separate method

19:00 <sdferfx> Hi. I want to want a String class that makes every write to the string append instead of overwrite my previous string. Can anyone here help me do that?

19:00 <patrick99e99> Phrogz: but I have to pass a hash, because there are many options that can be defaults.. :to, :subject, :from, etc are all valid keys that can be values or procs

19:00 <Phrogz> sdferfx: You mean you want to make a class that makes all mutating methods not mutate, but return a new string? So that gsub! doesn't mutate, for example?

19:01 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: OK, then your answer to my previous question was a lie.

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19:01 <patrick99e99> I'm sorry I don't mean to be a liar

19:01 <Phrogz> :)

19:01 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: Let me test something for a second.

19:01 <adac> what is the easiest way to remove duplicates from an array?

19:01 <patrick99e99> adac: .uniq

19:01 <adac> patrick99e99, oh thanks! :)

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19:02 <sdferfx> Phrogz, no, I mean that I want a class that adds the new value for the string to the old value and display them both, a class that turns all replacements into concats

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19:02 <Phrogz> sdferfx: What's your problem/question, then?

19:02 <sdferfx> Phrogz, I don't know how to do that

19:03 <sdferfx> Phrogz, See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9038508/string-based-class-that-converts-all-replacements-to-concats-in-ruby

19:04 <Phrogz> patrick99e99: http://pastie.org/3265024 Works for me.

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19:06 <Phrogz> sdferfx: I still don't understand, either from here or that description. Please modify your s/o question to put in some sample code that you'd like to run and the results that you'd like to see.

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19:06 <patrick99e99> Phrogz: hmmmmm.... ok ill try again on my end in a min

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19:08 <adac> hmm I have this array: http://pastebin.com/wENZX03K. Now you can see different items, digitalcamera is two times within the array the other only one single time. Now to every different string in that array I would need to add an additional "version". In this example I would need to add: digitalcamera_I000003, pdm-camcorder_I000002, pdm-blurayplayer_I000003. any ideas how to do that?

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19:09 <sts> Hello folks. Can anybody help me a bit? I'd like to generate a crypt() compatible SHA256 salted hash string. how would i do that with Digest::SHA256?

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19:10 <adac> sorry: pdm-blurayplayer_I000002 of course

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19:10 <sdferfx> Phrogz, edited on SO

19:11 <sdferfx> I don't know if that assignment of a certain class is correct Ruby syntax or not, but I hope it gets the idea across

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19:13 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Reading.

19:13 <Phrogz> sdferfx: That's not possible using variable assignment. It's only possible if you're calling a method, like app_str = AppStr.new; app_str<<"jeff"; app_str<<"walls"; Is that OK?

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19:15 <sdferfx> Phrogz, I don't know really, I don't think so. The thing is, open4::background allows me to use anything that impelments one of those listed functions as the handle to stdout. I want to collect the entire stdout for my process. How can I do that with open4::background without writing it to a file?

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19:15 <Phrogz> sdferfx: You want a StringIO object.

19:16 <Phrogz> sdferfx: http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.3/libdoc/stringio/rdoc/index.html

19:16 <Phrogz> Make a new StringIO, hand that over as your stdout, and it will pretend to be a file and accumulate all your output as a string.

19:16 <sdferfx> Phrogz, OK. Have you used that with open4::background before?

19:17 <Phrogz> sdferfx: No, but that's exactly the use case that StringIO is meant for.

19:17 <sdferfx> Phrogz, I see, that is exactly what I want. However, I am not sure if open4::background is doing it that way or if it is doing assignment on write.

19:17 <Phrogz> sdferfx: There's no way it is using assignment; that wouldn't work with stdout, either.

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19:20 <sdferfx> Phrogz, OK, thanks. I appreciate it.

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19:27 <sdferfx> OK, one more question. Is it possible to dump the output of StringIO as it's written? Is there a way I can "listen" for the write event and puts at that point?

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19:29 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Good question; if there's not, we can monkeypatch it in easily enough

19:30 <Phrogz> For example: class LoudStringIO < StringIO; def <<(*a); super.tap{ puts self }; end; end

19:30 <Phrogz> (Untested.)

19:30 <sdferfx> Phrogz, OK. Can you help step me through that? As I said, I am new. OK, thanks for the example. What does the *a mean in Ruby syntax?

19:31 <sdferfx> Don't see a tap option on StringIO; where is that inherited from?

19:31 <Phrogz> *a says "I don't care how many arguments you call this method with, collect them into an array"

19:32 <Phrogz> super (without parentheses after it) invokes the superclass method passing along whatever was passed to the method.

19:33 <Phrogz> You can search for methods here: http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/

19:33 <sdferfx> Phrogz, right, I know about super, but StringIO doesn't have tap

19:33 <Phrogz> http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Object.html#method-i-tap

19:33 <sdferfx> Why do you have to call super for that? Doesn't LoudStringIO get tap automatically by virtue of being an object?

19:34 <Phrogz> I call super so that whatever << was supposed to do gets actually done.

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19:34 <Phrogz> tap just takes the value of whatever the object is and returns it at the end. I'm using it here just so that I don't have to do:

19:34 <Phrogz> def <<(*a); result = super; puts self; result; end

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19:35 <Phrogz> So that we ensure that whatever the return value of this method was supposed to be always gets done.

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19:35 <sdferfx> Phrogz, OK, interesting. Thanks.

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19:36 <Phrogz> That should be the only method you need to override, based on the list you gave.

19:37 <adac> guys, in an array of strings, how can I count the occurrences of a string?

19:37 <sdferfx> Hmm, that doesn't actually work

19:38 <sdferfx> it compiles OK but doesn't output anything

19:38 <Phrogz> adac: http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Array.html#method-i-count

19:38 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Ruby doesn't "compile", but I know what you mean. b) Where/when does it not output anything?

19:38 <adac> Phrogz, ah perfect! thanks a lot!

19:39 <Phrogz> Ruby is often like that; there's often a method that does exactly what you need, elegantly.

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19:39 <any-key> make sure to read through the enumerable documentation

19:39 <any-key> that's where the cool ones live

19:39 <rippa> and then people get like

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19:39 <rippa> "why does this method not work exactly as I want"

19:40 <sdferfx> Phrogz, it doesn't output as the stdout receives input. It does add the input to stdout.string. I can output it all at the end after open4::bg thread has finished, but I want to watch stdout as it goes

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19:42 <Phrogz> sdferfx: OK, testing and fixing.

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19:47 <adac> hmm is it possible to have integer values with leading zeros ie: 000001, 000002, ..., 000010 ..., 000100

19:48 <ctria> these are strings, not integers

19:48 <rippa> "00001"

19:48 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Silly me, StringIO has its own puts. So: http://pastie.org/3265255

19:49 <adac> problem is i would need to add somehing like that: 000001 + 000009 = 000010

19:49 <rippa> "%06d" % 42

19:49 <Phrogz> adac: "%05i" % 42 #=> "00042"

19:49 <Phrogz> heh :)

19:49 <adac> ah cool

19:49 <rippa> the best number

19:49 <adac> :)

19:49 <adac> hehe

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19:49 <Phrogz> adac: You can "00001".to_i + "00010".to_i

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19:50 <sdferfx> hmm, thanks Phrogz, but why do you do STDOUT.x? Is that a global somewhere?

19:50 <rippa> top-level constant

19:50 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Yes

19:50 <Phrogz> There's also $stdout as a real global, if you want.

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19:51 <sdferfx> what's the difference between top-level constant and a real global?

19:51 <rippa> constant is constant

19:51 <rippa> it will give you a warning

19:51 <rippa> if you try to change it

19:51 <adac> Phrogz, I see. but as a result i would always need 00011

19:51 <adac> leading zeros

19:52 <Phrogz> adac: Then whenever you go to print it, always use sprintf or String#%

19:52 <Phrogz> Or you could make your own silly class that does the arithmetic and always returns a new instance of the class.

19:53 <rippa> why store numbers as strings

19:53 <rippa> just convert them before output

19:53 <any-key> because more strings is more better

19:54 <rippa> http://i36.tinypic.com/261krnt.jpg

19:54 <Phrogz> irb(main):005:0> class Fixnum; def to_s; "%05i" % self; end; end; 1 + 20

19:54 <Phrogz> #=> 00021

19:54 <Phrogz> heh, rippa

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19:55 <adac> ok i understand now

19:56 <adac> rippa, its all a stupid thing. Someone made a convention to store version numbers like that

19:56 <adac> and now i'm he one who has to deal wit it

19:56 <adac> the

19:56 <adac> but lucky me you are here :)

19:57 <eerdogan> How can I search all emails (including, but not limited to Inbox) using gmail gem? How come the results are limited to the ones in Inbox, not the archived ones?

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20:15 <tsd_usa> Hi guys, What do you use to debug your ruby script??

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20:16 <tomsthumb_> how would you sort an array of strings in 1.8.7?

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20:17 <burgestrand> tsd_usa: pry

20:18 <burgestrand> tomsthumb_: same way you sort an array of anything else, using Array#sort or Array#sort_band it also won’t work very reliably if you change the source files during code run

20:18 <burgestrand> … sort_band?

20:18 <sdferfx> Phrogz, I want to output only the new information on the taps, i.e., I want to watch live, I don't want stdout to repeat itself every time it gets written to. I have tried ot modify with this: http://dpaste.com/694059/ but it fails. :( Can you help me?

20:18 <burgestrand> … really? I mean Array#sort_by

20:19 <sdferfx> Phrogz, I was using @count recently, tried self.count in an attempt to get rid of the runtime that occurs

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20:20 <Phrogz> sdferfx: Way easier than that: http://pastie.org/3265425

20:20 <sdferfx> Phrogz, Ah, I see, yeah, I should have thought of that

20:21 <sdferfx> Nonetheless, is there a reasonable way to do slices in Ruby? In Python I can say print string[last_length:] and it will just start printing from there. I don't see that Ruby automatically finds length like that, I see that it has the .. syntax but appears must have args on both ends

20:23 <tsd_usa> Hi I tried to debug a ruby script, but met following problem:

20:23 <tsd_usa> ruby -d test.rb

20:23 <tsd_usa> Exception `LoadError' at /Users/tsdeng/.rbenv/versions/1.9.3-p0/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1241 - cannot load such file -- rubygems/defaults/operating_system

20:23 <tsd_usa> Exception `LoadError' at /Users/tsdeng/.rbenv/versions/1.9.3-p0/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1250 - cannot load such file -- rubygems/defaults/ruby

20:23 <tsd_usa> what doest it mean?

20:23 <tomsthumb_> burgestrand: so why does .sort! blow up and .sort work fine?

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20:25 <burgestrand> tsd_usa: it means you turned on the debug flag in ruby, which shows all raised errors even if they’re caught

20:25 <burgestrand> it’s sometimes useful, but not all that often

20:25 <tsd_usa> burgestrand: Is it a problem?

20:26 <burgestrand> tsd_usa: I don’t know, does it cause problems for you?

20:26 <burgestrand> tomsthumb_: blow up with what?

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20:27 <tsd_usa> I am just trying to debug a ruby script, but I can't get it through with this burgestrand

20:28 <Companion> I am learning ruby, and had an example (the comments are done by me since it is asked in the book) and I cannot figure out some thing, its about this source http://pastebin.com/DbRZycZ1 what it asked was 'Why is there a float value used instead of an interger' for my logics it should be an interger

20:29 <burgestrand> tsd_usa: ok?

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20:30 <burgestrand> Companion: you mean average_passengers_per_car or carpool_capacity?

20:30 <Companion> capacity

20:30 <Companion> no

20:30 <Companion> space_in_car

20:31 <Companion> srry burgestrand meant space_in_car

20:31 <burgestrand> Companion: do you know irb?

20:31 <Companion> burgestrand, I know the basics

20:32 <Companion> burgestrand, the reason I don't understand... Space in car can only be 4 persons in a cab (4 seats) so the driver value extracts 1 so 3 customers can get in a cab

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20:32 <Companion> burgestrand, so it should be 4 exact persons cause I never met a 50% human yet

20:32 <tomsthumb_> burgestrand: ah, i didn't see that the array was getting .join(', ')'ed. that explains a lot

20:32 <dl3r> how i recognize the datatype in ruby?

20:33 <tomsthumb_> burgestrand: ty for the help

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20:34 <burgestrand> tomsthumb_: rubber ducking I guess, yw :)

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20:34 <burgestrand> Companion: *shrug* beats me, space_in_a_car is never used anywhere the float makes a difference

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20:35 <Hanmac> dl3r: variable.class

20:35 <dl3r> thx

20:35 <Companion> burgestrand, you don't understand either? :<

20:36 <rippa> it could make sense to use float for drivers or passengers

20:36 <rippa> because if they are both integer result will be integer too

20:36 <burgestrand> Companion: perhaps useful in another context?

20:37 <burgestrand> rippa: not in this particular code sample, and integer division is useful (or, well, the humane thing to do) when dealing with people

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20:37 <rippa> burgestrand: but when you deal with averages

20:37 <rippa> it's not so useful to have integer number

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20:38 <rippa> 1 average passenger is a whole other deal than 1.4 passengers

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20:38 <burgestrand> rippa: even then, there’s always fdiv

20:38 <rippa> yes

20:38 <burgestrand> rippa: and in this particular code sample the float does not make a difference

20:39 <burgestrand> rippa: and it could be pretty much one or the other D:

20:39 <Companion> rippa, you're talking about fat people?

20:39 <rippa> I was just thinking why something woud be float there at all

20:40 <Companion> rippa, what I know from the past: 2 Interger can be made into a float cause ruby supports lazy programmers

20:40 <Companion> lazy programming*

20:40 <Companion> I think I had a beer too much *hic*

20:40 <burgestrand> ruby supports both ;)

20:41 <Companion> ][_, ([]) ][_,

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20:41 <Companion> atleast on day #1 on learning ruby I made a FaceBook auto poke script :')

20:41 <Companion> People poke me and ruby pokes back :')

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20:42 <Hanmac> rippa: you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THp8BoZ4FPI ? "a avange family has 1.4 children"

20:43 <Companion> Hanmac, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0JH0ZzjefE

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20:48 <davidcelis> What's the proper way to include another library's module inside of a class you have nested inside your own module? I'm getting this error when I try to do it: https://gist.github.com/7cbc5c4e0c2c51643978

20:48 <davidcelis> It seems like a namespacing issue, but I'm not sure.

20:49 <burgestrand> davidcelis: you can use ::Resque to refer to the top-level constant

20:49 <davidcelis> Aha, thank you.

20:49 <davidcelis> I'll give that a shot

20:49 <sdferfx> Can I get the pid of the currently running script from Ruby? I want to know the pid of the script as it executes

20:49 <burgestrand> davidcelis: ruby should probably find it if it’s defined though

20:50 <burgestrand> sdferfx: Process.pid

20:50 <davidcelis> burgestrand: Yep, looks like it's undefined for some reason.

20:50 <sdferfx> burgestrand, thanks

20:50 <davidcelis> sdferfx: also $$

20:50 <davidcelis> though Process.pid is cleaner

20:51 <sdferfx> davidcelis, why is it cleaner?

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20:51 <burgestrand> not necessarily cleaner, just more cleanable

20:51 <davidcelis> because looking at $$ is lame

20:51 <Hanmac> and more readable

20:51 <burgestrand> it’s more apparent what it does

20:51 <davidcelis> and not immediately apaprent as to what it is

20:51 <davidcelis> not everybody knows that $$ is a global variable that stores Ruby's PID, but Process.pid is pretty understandable

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21:30 <levity_island> can anyone recommend a book with examples of good encapsulation and separation of concerns, in Ruby?

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21:31 <Companion> burgestrand, found out why the float is there :)

21:31 <burgestrand> Companion: oh?

21:31 <Companion> burgestrand, dynamic recognition

21:31 <burgestrand> Companion: of what?

21:32 <burgestrand> Companion: where?

21:32 <Companion> of math

21:32 <Companion> http://pastebin.com/DbRZycZ1

21:32 <Companion> burgestrand, check that link again :)

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21:32 <burgestrand> Companion: what about it?

21:32 <Companion> the float

21:32 <burgestrand> Companion: yes?

21:32 <Companion> is for dynamic recognition :D

21:32 <burgestrand> Companion: … and what is dynamic recognition?

21:32 <Companion> thats the answer I was searching for :')

21:33 <Companion> burgestrand, in this script it means nothing else then its possible

21:34 <burgestrand> Companion: I have no idea what you mean

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21:34 <Companion> burgestrand, nvm :)

21:34 * burgestrand shrugs

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21:46 <shevy> hey guys

21:46 <shevy> http://pastie.org/3265873

21:46 <shevy> how can I let the last method return

21:46 <shevy> "testing 3" ?

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21:47 <shevy> I suppose the arguments are given to method_missing, but if I tap into args, it seems to call itself recursively

21:47 <shevy> return method_name works but

21:47 <shevy> return method_name+args.join(' ') does not

21:48 <shevy> What I am trying to do is to simply treat anything in a given block as a string, even without using " or '

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22:00 <csherin> shevy: in 1.8.7 this works def method_missing(*args); args.join(" "); end

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22:00 <csherin> shevy: in 1.9.2 when i tried it results in a SystemStackError

22:01 <csherin> shevy: foo { testing 3 } #=> "testing 3"

22:02 <shevy> hmm

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22:02 <shevy> you are right csherin

22:02 <shevy> thanks :) for now I am fine if it works in 1.8.7

22:03 <csherin> shevy: you are right though, it does surprising things when Kernel methods are used as bare words

22:03 <csherin> foo { test 3 }

22:06 <shevy> hehe

22:07 <shevy> well, I'll need to come up with a better design eventually anyway

22:07 <burgestrand> shevy, csherin: http://ideone.com/M2rln

22:07 <shevy> oh that is interesting

22:08 <shevy> hmm

22:08 <shevy> does not seem to like { test 3 hjkgtehjkge jkhwejkhegw }

22:09 <burgestrand> shevy: because 3 is not a method

22:09 <shevy> ohhhhhh

22:11 <csherin> burgestrand: nice!

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22:55 <Seppman> i have a method with one possible argument, like method(*p) if p is given the method, i want to convert it to a string and put it, else i want to do puts "no string given". How would i do that?

22:56 <Seppman> i have problems with the check if p was provided or not

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22:59 <Seppman> it tried somethink like if p.to_s.empty? but that doesnt work as i was hoping for

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23:05 <apeiros_> Seppman: with the definition def foo(*args), args is always an array, always consisting of the arguments given

23:06 <apeiros_> so if no argument was given, the array will be empty.

23:06 <apeiros_> therefore args.empty? means no argument was given.

23:06 <Seppman> args is for command line arguments, isn't it?

23:07 <apeiros_> Seppman: hu? no

23:07 <apeiros_> args is a local variable

23:07 <Seppman> ok, thanks :-)

23:08 <apeiros_> you mean ARGV, which is a constant

23:08 <apeiros_> lvars and constants are two quite different beasts.

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23:40 <shadoi> banisterfiend: edit-method Foo#foo works, but not for a class method? Is there a way to jump direct to class methods?

23:40 <banisterfiend> shadoi: it shoudl work for class methods

23:40 <banisterfiend> shadoi: edit-metohd Foo.foo

23:40 <banisterfiend> edit-method*

23:40 <shadoi> ah!

23:40 <shadoi> I tried ::foo but not .

23:40 <banisterfiend> hehe

23:40 <shadoi> thank you!

23:40 <shadoi> I fucking love this

23:41 <banisterfiend> shadoi: only just discoverd it?

23:41 <banisterfiend> i'vebeen spamming this channel for months :)

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23:41 <shadoi> nah I've been using Pry but the edit-method thing I didn't realize what it did.. I thought you had to be in scope, etc.

23:42 <banisterfiend> oh ok

23:42 <banisterfiend> it works in scope too

23:42 <banisterfiend> so

23:42 <banisterfiend> cd Foo

23:42 <banisterfiend> edit-method foo

23:42 <banisterfiend> works too

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23:43 <shadoi> I assume you do some caller magic to get the file # line? I'll have to look at the code…

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23:43 <banisterfiend> shadoi: just Method#source_location

23:43 <shadoi> oh wow, didn't know about that one, cool

23:43 <banisterfiend> shadoi: btw you can always type: show-command edit-method

23:43 <banisterfiend> to see the source code

23:43 <banisterfiend> i hope you upgraded to 0.9.8 though

23:43 <banisterfiend> code is much nicer there :)

23:44 <shadoi> :)

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23:50 <kreantos> hi

23:50 <kreantos> how would you store html documents you've crawled

23:51 <kreantos> as files or in a db?

23:51 <tectonic> i use text_attribute

23:51 <tectonic> which i wrote for that purpose

23:51 <tectonic> but if you're crawling a lot (more than a single HD's worth), use something else

23:51 <tectonic> https://github.com/iterationlabs/text_attribute

23:51 <apeiros_> kreantos: I'd probably store it as files.

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23:52 <apeiros_> tectonic: looks nice

23:53 <tectonic> apeiros_: thx

23:53 <kreantos> tectonic, thx for the link

23:54 <kreantos> what about using a document db ?

23:54 <tectonic> kreantos: for larger amounts of data, i'd use something like casandra or riak

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23:55 <tectonic> kreantos: if you use text_attribute, please report any bugs :) it's pretty new

23:55 <tectonic> but simple

23:55 <kreantos> tectonic, i'm not having a lot of data

23:55 <kreantos> lets say its in a couple of 100k

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23:56 <tectonic> total, or each file?

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23:57 <kreantos> approx 600k html files

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23:58 <tectonic> ah

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23:59 <tectonic> 600,000 files of about 100k each, so about 60GB