apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.5; 2.0.0-p598; 1.9.3-p551: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<zenspider> all of my websites, cron jobs, classes (tho you could call those tests), build systems, bigger benchmarking tasks, etc...
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<womble> I like rake as the "go-to" place for all "do things in here" tasks because rake -T is a standard "so, what can I do in *here*?" command I can use everywhere.
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<arooni-mobile> how does putting #!/usr/bin/env rub at the top of my ruby file affect which ruby version is run?
<womble> The first 'ruby' binary found in your PATH will be the one that's run
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<arooni-mobile> if i am using rvm; how can i force to use a particular version of ruby
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<womble> arooni-mobile: Make sure the relevant version of Ruby's bin dir is first in your PATH.
<womble> (I have no idea how to do that with RVM; I don't use it because I think it is pants)
<arooni-mobile> womble, i only have that line in my file because i was trying to avoid this error "csapi.rb:233: invalid multibyte char (US-ASCII)" i got from a foreign language string constant i was trying to include in a separate file
<waxjar> you can also use a shebang that directly points to the ruby version you want, though that'll pretty much tie the executable to your systems only
<arooni-mobile> thats ok i dont plan on anyone else running this app but me
<pipework> arooni-mobile: It uses the ruby that's in $PATH, so whatever `which ruby` returns.
<pipework> waxjar: Or whatever path to whatever ruby you choose.
<arooni-mobile> is there another away to avoid this invalid multibyte char stuff?
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<pipework> arooni-mobile: Use enoding magic comments.
<pipework> encoding
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<pipework> # encoding: utf-8
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<arooni-mobile> thats all i need?
<arooni-mobile> dont need the ruby executable?
<arooni-mobile> path to the ruby i need? i was referencing this : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1739836/invalid-multibyte-char-us-ascii-with-rails-and-ruby-1-9
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<waxjar> you don't need the shebang (#! part) if you just want to fix that warning
<arooni-mobile> ok thanks
<waxjar> the shebang is only needed when you want to make a script executable, so you can run it directly, instead of running ruby with your script as the argument.
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<arooni-mobile> ah didnt know that
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<klmlfl> hey guys, this is a cross-post: in the case: a[a,1] ; a.push 2 ; can a[0] somehow not include 2?
<womble> klmlfl: Huh?
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<klmlfl> sorry a = a[a,1]; a.push 2; can a[0] somehow not include 2?
<klmlfl> ah!
<klmlfl> sorry a = [a,1]; a.push 2; can a[0] somehow not include 2?
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<klmlfl> maybe this will be clearer: arr = [arr,1,2]; a.push 3; will arr[0] always contain 3?
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<klmlfl> goddamnit typos.. you get what i mean
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<bnagy> why are you creating circular refs on purpose?
<bnagy> how about, I don't know, not doing that?
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<klmlfl> bnagy: great answer.
<bnagy> >> a=[]; a.push a
<eval-in__> bnagy => [[...]] (https://eval.in/226966)
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<bnagy> ^^ that says "you tried to trick me but I am wise to you"
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<bnagy> unlike in old versions of the interpreter :<
<klmlfl> repl.it
<pipework> bnagy: What kinds of neat things might one do with it though?
<klmlfl> oh, that answers it.
<klmlfl> repl.it is rb 1.8
<womble> I think the answer is "the 2 is in there somewhere, but good luck ever finding it"
<bnagy> womble: no, it's _everywhere_
<womble> Whoa... you're blowing mind, man...
<bnagy> >> a=[]; a.push a; a.push 1; a[0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][0][1]
<eval-in__> bnagy => 1 (https://eval.in/226967)
<bnagy> there is infinity spoon
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<womble> >> a = [a,1,2]; a.push 3
<eval-in__> womble => [nil, 1, 2, 3] (https://eval.in/226968)
<bnagy> because parsing, I guess
<womble> a[0] would seem to always include... nothing
<banister> bnagy sup nag
<womble> At the time [a,1,2] is interpreted, a is not defined
<womble> It is *then* assigned to the variable name a
<bnagy> banister: meh nm. Hanging out in the pacific.
<banister> bnagy fun life 4 u?
<klmlfl> womble: that makes the most sense.
<bnagy> well in the gist you create it 'properly'
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<bnagy> but the point is "don't"
<womble> Where's the fun in that?
<bnagy> banister: yeah, all good. Pretty isolated out here, but that suits. Moving back to the first world for a bit sometimes next year
<bnagy> banister: after like .. 13 years. That is going to SUCK :(
<banister> bnagy nice, where? back to aus?
<bnagy> yeah
<pipework> What world do you live in now that's not the first?
<klmlfl> thank you bnagy pipework womble
<bnagy> the "developing" one is the PC term
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<bnagy> klmlfl: np :)
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<klmlfl> im reading ruby under a microscope and its bringing about questions
<pipework> It's a fun book.
<klmlfl> great book btw
<pipework> bnagy: I'm American, I don't know which ones are developing or not.
<pipework> Is it a fun place to live though?
<bnagy> well here in particular ( north pacific ) definitely doesn't suit everyone, but personally I love it
<womble> How north are we talking?
<pipework> About this north.
<bnagy> Marshall Islands, ~7N
<bnagy> klmlfl: that is not how I ( or anyone I suspect ) would write a directed graph in ruby :) But that _is_ kind of cool.
<pipework> It totally is pretty neat.
<pipework> bnagy: I bet some people would on jruby.
<pipework> Or maybe the graal vm some day if it graduates beyond research.
<bnagy> seems like it would make your traversal code awful, but hey
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<bnagy> I got the impression they did it just to stop people blowing themselves up by accident with self-referential containers
<bnagy> not as a serious stab at a language feature
<bnagy> but who knows
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<nofxx_> What's this 'Assignment Branch Condition size' on rubocop?
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<lofic> hello, I struggle with net/http posts
<nofxx_> morning yorickpeterse, hey that day forgot to ask you, which orm do you use/recommend for PG?
<lofic> any idea ?
<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: we currently use ActiveRecord everywhere, but I personally prefer Sequel
<nofxx_> lofic, don't want to use any gem? rest-client is very nice
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, same here. Hey, I wrote that gem I was talking to you... field :foo in AR heheh going to write for sequel too
<nofxx_> automatic migration, fields and indexes
<nofxx_> works in dev mode, and on production nothing needs to be done, it's all a rake task
<nofxx_> now PG is nosql for me
<lofic> I would prefer have less deps if possible (net/http is stdlib)
<lofic> and what I want to achieve doesn't seem hard
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<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: Sequel had/has automatic table migrations built-in
<yorickpeterse> I believe it's deprecated though
<yorickpeterse> DataMapper also had this
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<nofxx_> didn't found in sequel, going to look deeper... very underrated feature imho, not only there's no time lost running migrations, you schema is defined on code and not in the bank
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<yorickpeterse> Time lost running migrations?
<yorickpeterse> You still have to run them to actually apply them
<yorickpeterse> Actually, running automatic migrations is tremendously dangerous
<canton7> automatic migrations - yuck
<yorickpeterse> And not idempotent at all
<yorickpeterse> well manual ones aren't either, but you have more control
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<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: Honestly, what's your problem with schemas that you're willing to re-implement them in a shittier way?
<yorickpeterse> Your schema doesn't change by the hour, running a migration once in a while really isn't a problem
<yorickpeterse> AR's migration system is dumb as a brick, but Sequel's system is decent
<yorickpeterse> though AR 4.x made it less bad
<nofxx_> not only that, as I said, schema is on code, no time is lost, you can still use files to migrate in production (it'll write for you)
<yorickpeterse> how is time otherwise lost?
* canton7 would rather be hand-writing the migrations, and using them in development
<yorickpeterse> And when using AR the schema is also in the code, in db/schema.rb
<yorickpeterse> that's only partially a troll counter-argument
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, yeah, go there every time you need to know what class Foo contains.. very practical
<nofxx_> what fields*
<canton7> the author of sequel did quite a good presentation on this
<yorickpeterse> That is no more difficult than going to class Foo and reading its contents
<nofxx_> canton7, after you work w/o worrying nothing about you db, as it should be, you'll find a migration waiting for you in git
<yorickpeterse> or going to the database
<nofxx_> you analyze it and use/change
<yorickpeterse> it's literally the same amount of effort
<canton7> nofxx_, and untested migration ;)
<lofic> so, no net/http guru around ?
<canton7> s/and/an/
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<yorickpeterse> lofic: have you tried this using Ruby 1.9/2.x ?
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<nofxx_> canton7, easy to test if you want to, you should be running some bin or have some hook the dont-commit-unless-tested thing
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<nofxx_> and I bet it usually will know fields you forgot ;)
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<yorickpeterse> I hate to break it to you, but what you are trying to solve has been solved years ago
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<yorickpeterse> You can't expect to re-invent a schema system in code and have it work better than 30 years of database design/theory
<yorickpeterse> DataMapper tried to do this, and it sucked
<lofic> yorickpeterse : no; I know this would come :)
<yorickpeterse> Mongoid tries to do this, and it's fucking terrible
<yorickpeterse> lofic: my net/http is too rusty, I typically use other Gems anyway (e.g. httpclient)
<yorickpeterse> net/http's interface is too painful
<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: of all the problems I had to deal with with databases, the schema being in the database has never been one of them
<lofic> painful, indeed
<yorickpeterse> In fact, the schema being defined in the database is hugely useful if multiple apps migrate the same database (tables)
<yorickpeterse> If the schema were defined only in the code you'd have to duplicate the schema between different apps
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* dr_bob wonders what kind of proposal you are discussing here.
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<yorickpeterse> dr_bob: stuff like `class User; field :name, :type => String; end`
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<yorickpeterse> coupled with automatic migrations
<yorickpeterse> that supposedly take no time
<yorickpeterse> and will always work
<dr_bob> static typing?
* canton7 pretty much always has to nuke the entire schema and re-build it when doing that migration generation shit with hibernate
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<yorickpeterse> dr_bob: very different thing
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<dr_bob> DB schema definition in Ruby code?
<yorickpeterse> Yes
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<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, first, I know you have deep pleasure hurting my feelings... kidding, serioulsly: I disagree with you
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<nofxx_> and you didn't get it quite right.. It upgrades rails migration rather than re invent schema migrations
<yorickpeterse> "upgrades"?
<yorickpeterse> You mean it generates migrations?
<nofxx_> and mongoid and every nosql out there 'schemaless' is a feature on every welcome page
<nofxx_> it's nice... I just refuse to do a work a computer can do, computers are dumb
<canton7> exactly - and they get "simple" things very wrong
<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: I'm really not following
<yorickpeterse> Every argument you make makes no sense
<yorickpeterse> Perhaps if one has schemaphobia they might, but otherwise this is a very dangerous idea
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, you could not use migrations in files is you want, but there's a "safe mode" possibility here: you'll work creating/removing fields dynamically, when it comes to sending it, working on the server, use migration in files
<yorickpeterse> I'm...lost
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, ^upgrades^improves
<yorickpeterse> Perhaps it is better to show code once it's there, because I'm really not getting it
<nofxx_> yeah, a readme.md .. working on it
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<yorickpeterse> oh I just had the best idea: embedding a Python interpreter inside Ruby
<yorickpeterse> so I don't have to shell out to run Python scripts
<yorickpeterse> what could possibly go wrong
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<dr_bob> yorickpeterse: you could mess up indentation...
<yorickpeterse> hahaha
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah Guido will find me and punch me for not using 4 spaces
<surrounder> lol
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* dr_bob wonders whether a punch with a space hurts as much as with a tab...
<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/halostatue/rubypython darn it, somebody beat me to it
<lofic> found my problem : I have to set a digest auth, but the error message is not clear about that
* yorickpeterse might honestly use something like this in production
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<darix> yorickpeterse: so you can use pygments directly?:p
<yorickpeterse> No, some other Python stuff I have to deal with
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<yorickpeterse> I only care about string output so serializing that to Ruby isn't too tricky
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<lofic> hurray : working now -> http://pastebin.com/8qibL777
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<lofic> by the way the published versions of rest-client don't support digest auth
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<lofic> fixed but not released
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<yorickpeterse> hahaha this shit actually works: https://gist.github.com/YorickPeterse/e06b31f964801fab2812
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* canton7 isn't sure what to make of the name 'Puby'
<yorickpeterse> :P
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<darix> canton7: it could be worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWKjS6Vufw
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<Eising> I have serious problems with something that used to work: I run an external program through Open3.popen3, but somehow it jumps out of the loop before the process is finished. Here's my code: http://pastie.org/9746702
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<Eising> the "until (raw_line = stream.gets).nil? do" loop should wait until stdout is closed, but it seems it does after a "\n"
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<lofic> can I put all requirements on 1 line ?
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<lofic> Kind of : require foo, bar, baz
<dr_bob> Eising: you need to join on *all* the threads.
<dr_bob> In other words: instead of #each use #map store created threads and join on them.
<Eising> I'm not sure I understand?
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<Eising> Isn't there only one thread?
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<dr_bob> You are creating two threads in line 10.
<Eising> ah
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<dr_bob> Btw, why don't you use stream.each_line?
<Eising> actually, I don't remember. I think I nicked this code from stackexchange :D
<dr_bob> Your if else cascade could also be case methinks.
<dr_bob> At least if matching lines are disjunct.
<dr_bob> Eising: that's what you get by copying code from someplace without understanding it.
<Eising> cases make sense, yes
<dr_bob> btw, also you do not use the Hash key => an Array is sufficient
<dr_bob> Also with current versions of Ruby I would use separate arguments to #popen3 instead of a single String argument. Saves a lot of hassle.
<Eising> I'm coding against 1.9.3, since it's what I have on my servers
<Eising> right
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<Eising> dr_bob: I've tried drilling it down as simple as possible, with only one thread reading from stdout with #read_lines. I still have more or less the same issue, actually... What would be the most correct way of spawning a process and in real time('ish) read from stdout?
<dr_bob> Eising: start by finding out what stops you loop. Placing "Thread.abort_on_exception=true" at top of script may help.
<dr_bob> Note that you need to read from stdout AND stderr - otherwise you risk a deadlock.
<Eising> /opt/app/helpers/owamp.rb:13:in `each_line': closed stream (IOError)
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<Eising> dr_bob: could that be a deadlock?
<dr_bob> No
<dr_bob> You are trying to read past the end of the stream.
<Eising> that makes sense
<dr_bob> Here is a one liner example: Open3.popen3(*%w{seq 1 100}) {|i,o,e,t|te=Thread.new {1 while e.gets};o.each_line{|l|p l};te.join}
<dr_bob> Try it in your terminal.
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<Eising> dr_bob: works fine
* dr_bob had expected that.
<Eising> :)
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<dr_bob> That example just illustrates that you need two threads for reading. In this case stderr is just thrown away.
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<Eising> yeah, I tried doing that
<Eising> didn't help, for some reason.
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<Eising> hmm, getting closer to something now
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<Eising> yup, now I just need to fix some regex
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<Eising> dr_bob: thank you for your help. My original code worked, actually, but it was a faulty regexp in the end.
<dr_bob> YWC. So it did not end the look prematurely but just seemed so because of the regex?
<Eising> yes, exactly
<Eising> and abort_on_exception wasn't set
<Eising> so, I never saw the very simple exception it raised
<dr_bob> :-)
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<maloik> ugh, that took a while to figure out... monkeypatched the string class in javascript to add a replaceAt method, which uses substring
<maloik> apparently you can pass a string to substring if it can be converted to an integer ("1")
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<maloik> but if you pass it "1" + 1 and you don't realize the first one is a string, it'll bork out on you
<maloik> well, not so much bork out, but it'll end up as 11
<maloik> too clever for its own good
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<workmad3> maloik: implicit typecasting sucks :)
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<workmad3> maloik: especially implicit typecasting between types that don't always have a sensible conversion (such as string to integer)
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<jordia651> anyone knows the diff between running "make test" and "make check" in the ruby source code?
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<jordia651> never mind
<jordia651> I've found it
<jordia651> make check calls make test and make test-all
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<darix> we could run make check on jordia651 and see what happens!
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<jordia651> $? would be different than 0
<jordia651> ;)
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<guiguirb> Hello all ! :)
<maloik> "warning: shared example group 'Foo' has been previously defined at file.rb:3 and you are now defining it at file.rb:3"
<maloik> ruby, are you on drugs?
<havenwood> maloik: you're Foo'ing too much
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<maloik> :(
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<maloik> dont get it though... same file, same line, makes no sense
<guiguirb> With rails with a map on a has_and_belongs_to_many I get an object like this [[o1,o2],[o3,o4,5]]. I would like to get [o1,o2,o3,o4,o5] what's the more elegant way to do this? maybe with my first line. Thx for reading
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<havenwood> guiguirb: #rubyonrails would be the best place to ask
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<hao> hi
<maloik> guiguirb: use flat_map insteead
<guiguirb> Thanks I thought it would be here because it's map my issue and not the relation.
<guiguirb> thanks to you too I look now :)
<havenwood> guiguirb: aha, i should have read past "rails" :)
<maloik> :D
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<workmad3> guiguirb: flat_map
<guiguirb> thanks it was exactly what i need :D
<workmad3> ah, missed that maloik had answered :)
<havenwood> maloik: nested `shared_examples_for` blocks?
<workmad3> maloik: the file is being loaded twice somehow
<maloik> it's not nested
<maloik> and yea I did think it might be getting loaded twice
<maloik> trying to figure out how/where
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<maloik> ha! fixed it
<maloik> found an issue mentioning this, apparently calling the file _spec is a bad idea
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<havenwood> maloik: mm, picky
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<banisterfiend> anyone here have any experience with Fog? I am just trying to copy a couple of files around, but the docs are very sparse on even how to perform this simple thing..
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<technolove> hello :)
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