ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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* whitequark giggles
<whitequark> #llvm lately is #chandlerc-ranting-about-simd
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<pipework> whitequark: Just troll by asking why it's such a big deal.
<pipework> But turn off your logging for that channel first. No need to persist the impending drivel.
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<whitequark> my logging?
<pipework> yeah.
<whitequark> I don't have one on oftc
<pipework> smart person
<whitequark> huh?
<pipework> whu
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<sirish> poke
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<sirish> uh..
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<maloik> out of curiosity, are you folks seeing any reports on #ferguson in your national news at all?
<maloik> (if you're not in the US that is)
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<surrounder> a little
<c00lryguy> I'm in the US. Gettin pretty bad over there
<maloik> it's strangely quiet around the topic here in Belgium, some articles about the shooting and then about the rioting but nothing mentioning the fact that the police seems to have taken over and are actually the rioters (as far as I can tell from twitter stories)
<surrounder> same here in .nl
<whitequark> first article in .ru a few minutes ago. weird, I'd think it would be all over.
<c00lryguy> Well, it's not exactly the L.A. riots in 92
<apeiros> maloik: yes, we see it here in switzerland
<apeiros> maloik: but I hear much more about it via twitter
<maloik> well the difference to me seems to be that the police couldnt stop the riots in 92 (possibly underequiped), but now they're pretty much equiped better than the army
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<yorickpeterse> morning
<c00lryguy> Good morning
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<maloik> morning
<maloik> any of you know of any good pry demo's/presentations/talks? someone asked for a demo at a rails girls study group
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<maloik> I'll probably base it off of some stuff I come across myself and the screencast on the site, but still
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<maloik> cool thanks
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<darix> maloik: mention binding.pry a lot. it is one of the most productive things for me.
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<judofyr> for web development I love just using `raise 'wat'` and using better_errors
<whitequark> judofyr: did better_errors stop being UBER SLOW in chrome or something?
<whitequark> I recall it taking ~30s to load
<judofyr> it's still slow
<whitequark> *why* is it even slow
<whitequark> there is nothing in there to be slow
<judofyr> hm. or now it's fast.
<judofyr> but yeah, I seem to recall some cases where it's slow
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<maloik> i like better errors but sometimes pry is more useful
<maloik> especially with pry-remote
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<yorickpeterse> bah, I hate recruiters
<apeiros> I recruit haters
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: I'm not moving to German
<yorickpeterse> * Germany
<apeiros> no fan of beer and weisswurst?
<surrounder> lol
<surrounder> apeiros: when can I start ? ;)
<judofyr> can't you do hating remotely?
<apeiros> surrounder: you haven't yet? OO
<apeiros> I only employ self starters
<surrounder> hehe
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<yorickpeterse> also apeiros works with Oracle
<apeiros> where's the thunderstorm emoticon?
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<yorickpeterse> Hm, I think the notice on my website that says "I'm not looking for work" is lacking a certain <marquee>
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<surrounder> haha
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: I have a css3 animation for that…
<yxhuvud> apeiros: ☈
<apeiros> blinks in all colors, moves, wobbles etc.
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: do I look like some hipster to you?
<apeiros> (friends' customer had complained that focused form element was not visible enough - friend and I got drunk a little and built that :D)
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: yes
<yorickpeterse> :<
<apeiros> hipster archetype :)
<yorickpeterse> I don't even like coffee
<judofyr> hipster hipster
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: hipsters drink tea, not coffee… tsssk…
<oddmunds> only hipster argue about hipsters
<yorickpeterse> "Unfortunately I cannot find you on LinkedIn so I am not sure what your current job situation is."
<yorickpeterse> IT'S ON MY DARN WEBSITE
<yorickpeterse> AND ON MY GITHUB
<yorickpeterse> "I've noticed your GitHub profile which looks quite impressive"
<yorickpeterse> YOU HAVE SEEN IT
<yorickpeterse> ^ why I dislike recruiters
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: oh...welll...fuck
<oddmunds> Are you proficent in Rubygems?
<apeiros> oddmunds: said the hipster
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<oddmunds> Are you proficent in Ruby on Rails?
<oddmunds> Are you proficent in Ruby?
<apeiros> Are you proficient?
<yxhuvud> Are you?
<apeiros> Are?
<yorickpeterse> oddmunds: Yes, yes, and yes
<apeiros> the only valid response: hodor!
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<yorickpeterse> So yeah, if anybody wants to work for Citrix more or less in Copenhagen I can fwd the Email :P
<oddmunds> CPH is a cool city
<judofyr> yorickpeterse: where are you located btw?
<judofyr> yeah, CPH is nice
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<judofyr> don't know much about Citrix though
<yxhuvud> cph? but there is danish people there!
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<apeiros> judofyr: the "mu" of westeros?
<judofyr> just talk English to them
<yorickpeterse> judofyr: .nl
<judofyr> apieros: as in Zen's "mu"
<yorickpeterse> Oh even worse, this Email doesn't even have a subject
<yorickpeterse> and here I am trying to write a friendly "go away" Email
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<yorickpeterse> I wouldn't mind them so much if they actually treated you like a normal human being
<yorickpeterse> "Oh Hi Yorick, I *actually* checked out what you do" <- that would go a long way
<judofyr> yeah, I've gotten some recruiter mail related to Backbone.js
<judofyr> because I got one tiny pull request merged
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<yorickpeterse> heh
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<apeiros> I should add to my xing that any php & java related offers/inquiries go to the trash immediately
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<rolfb> yorickpeterse: like most spammers they probably want to weed out the least gullible ones by doing email badly
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<yorickpeterse> rolfb: heh
<apeiros> I wondered how much auto-responding honeypots would help reduce those kind of spammers
<yorickpeterse> I'm pretty sure this is an automated Email sent to 100s of others
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: http://www.recruiterspam.com/
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: I meant more the scam spam
<apeiros> where you can make bazillions of $$$ if you help transfer some money
<apeiros> make some kind of honeypot with a markov chain style responder bot
<apeiros> let the spammers deal with the bots and waste their time :)
<rolfb> apeiros: did you consider the spammers family? they need food too
<rolfb> :p
<apeiros> rolfb: yes, I did. and I concluded that I don't care enough :)
<rolfb> *gasp*
<rolfb> :)
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<judofyr> wasn't there a huge recruiter spam for a Rails job that ended up as a reply-all-mailing-list-thingie?
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<oddmunds> :)
<judofyr> oddmunds: how you're doing btw?
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<oddmunds> doing good
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<oddmunds> i code mainly java for work these days, but i sneak in a ruby script here and there
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<yorickpeterse> my condolences
<judofyr> you should sneak in a Ruby app in a .jar/.war sometime
<oddmunds> it's ok. the language you code in is less important than how you use it
<yorickpeterse> oddmunds: tell that to yourself when you have to look at Haskell all day
<oddmunds> :)
<oddmunds> i'm kinda tired today, there was a fire in the restauraunt below my apartment tonight
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<yorickpeterse> dayum
<oddmunds> not a big fire
<oddmunds> but there was a lot of commotion
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<oddmunds> i learned from twitter that the fire was put out
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<jtperreault> how might I output an array of strings with the word 'and' between the last and second to last elements?
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<yxhuvud> array_of_strings.join ' and '
<jhass> jtperreault: ActiveSupport available?
<Mon_Ouie> yxhuvud: *Only* the last two I assume
<jtperreault> jhass: yes
<jhass> jtperreault: check Array#to_sentence then
<jtperreault> jhass: beautiful, thank you.
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<jtoy> if i have read in code to ruby that is of the form ModuleA::ClassA, can i rename the module like MyModule::ClassA or add another layer, like ModuleMe::ModuleA::CLassA
<jtoy> how can I do this?
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<jhass> jtoy: a class is just an instance of the Class class assigned to a constant, so you can assign that object to another constant too: MyModule::ClassA = ModuleA::ClassA. But why do you want to do that?
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<[spoiler]> jhass, because he can :P
<[spoiler]> Don't oppress his coding freedom!!1
<[spoiler]> jtoy, unless it involves conjuring giraffes, it can be done in Ruby
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<Exhale1> hello, can anybody help me with a simple chat program?
<jhass> don't ask to ask, just ask
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<karamazov> Would having a method that does @content =|| File.read(file) be a form of dependency?
<apeiros> it'd be a form of syntax error :-p
<apeiros> ||=
<karamazov> haha opps
<karamazov> Yeah - besides that :)
<apeiros> what kind of dependency?
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<apeiros> or: dependency on what?
<karamazov> Well, it's dependent on the content always being a file. Perhaps, later down the road, the mythical clients wants to support content from webpages
<jhass> and what would be a way to avoid it?
<karamazov> Let me conjure that real quick :)
<apeiros> keep it simple
<jhass> ^
<apeiros> if what you need now is a file, code for it
<apeiros> not for magical possible anything
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<apeiros> if you properly separate concerns, the relevant concern is replaced easily.
<karamazov> oi
<karamazov> Instead of passing in the file - I could pass in the path
<apeiros> that's what you do already
<apeiros> File.read(file) # file is a path
<karamazov> Yeah - bah. I've just finished the book by Metz and I'm trying to write my own examples of dependencies and solutions for practice.
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<jtoy> id love to see some examples spoiler
<adymitruk> plan_nodes = @nodes.select{ |_, node| node["plan"] == plan}.values
<adymitruk> anyone can point me at what I need to read about to understand this syntax?
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<jhass> adymitruk: what exactly does trouble you there?
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<adymitruk> new to Ruby so trying to understand the syntax
<adymitruk> I'm gathering that this will filter a collection to only bring in plan nodes that match the plan
<centrx> adymitruk, @nodes.select {} is using Enumerable#select
<adymitruk> but would like to know in more details about all the syntax, especially | and |_
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<adymitruk> jhass: ^^^
<centrx> adymitruk, { |x| y } is called a "block"
<nofxx> adymitruk, the only way I could understand was why`s explanation: think of || as the mario tunnel
<nofxx> adymitruk, remember mario's world?
<centrx> adymitruk, the _ is basically an ordinary variable but is often used as filler
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<centrx> adymitruk, The component is in the set of nodes, but it is discarded
<nofxx> adymitruk, [mushroom, mario, luigi].each { |p| puts p }
<nofxx> adymitruk, each time one enters the tunnel ;)
<centrx> adymitruk, So some topics to look up: enumerable/enumerator/iterator
<centrx> adymitruk, "ruby block"
<molgrew> so is _ built into ruby?
<nofxx> molgrew, it's just a variable
<centrx> molgrew, I think it's just an accepted variable name, just as you can do _my_var
<nofxx> it could be a, b, c _ ..
<nofxx> molgrew, I agree it confuses a lil
<molgrew> where from? oh, just a name
<nofxx> it's a variable you don't care
<nofxx> it's a convetion
<nofxx> convention, not ruby only
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<nofxx> python and some other use too
<nofxx> like:
<nofxx> a, b, _dontcare, _neitherthis = [1,2,3,4]
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<nofxx> my examples sucks... don't use 'p' as variable... hehe
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<nofxx> p is a shortcut for puts
<adymitruk> plan_nodes = @nodes.select{ |_, node| node["plan"] == plan}.values
<nofxx> it will work anyways... ruby isn't dumb
<adymitruk> so here _, node are arguments in a function signature?
<nofxx> adymitruk, nodes has 2 values, or is a hash
<apeiros> adymitruk: yes
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<nofxx> for instance: [[1,2], [3,4]].each { |a, b| puts b } ... will write 2, 4
<adymitruk> so select iterates over each item in nodes
<apeiros> adymitruk: correct
<adymitruk> assumes that each item is an array of 2, key-value or tuple?
<nofxx> or [ a: 2, b: 3].each { |a, b| puts b } ... will write 2, 3
<nofxx> should be hash ^
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<adymitruk> ok.. that's good
<nofxx> but... the hash is better written: hash.values.each { |v| ....
<nofxx> just a shortcut
<adymitruk> helps me understand a bit better
<nofxx> for hash you have #keys and #values
<nofxx> helps a lot!
<apeiros> adymitruk: first argument is the key, second the value
<apeiros> adymitruk: and _ indicates that the key is not used
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<apeiros> _ is a valid local variable name
<adymitruk> so the syntax is { | paramaters | do something }
<adymitruk> is it valid for non-tuples?
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<adymitruk> ie, if I have an array of arrays
<nofxx> you can even nest
<apeiros> adymitruk: correct
<apeiros> adymitruk: it's the same syntax as with def foo(…)
<adymitruk> .select{ |x, y, z| puts x * y *z}
<nofxx> adymitruk, just be sure to use do/end instead of {} when multiline
<nofxx> again, just convention to make the code looks better
<adymitruk> ya.. one liners here for now
<apeiros> that is …params… in `def foo(…params…)` has the same syntax as in `{ |…params…| …}`
<apeiros> oh, actually there's a difference, but tbh I haven't seen that used in the wild ever… blocks can accept local variable names after a ;
<apeiros> those lvars will shadow outer lvars
<apeiros> >> x = 0; 5.upto(6) { |i| x = i }; x
<eval-in> apeiros => 6 (https://eval.in/179455)
<apeiros> >> x = 0; 5.upto(6) { |i; x| x = i }; x
<eval-in> apeiros => 0 (https://eval.in/179456)
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<apeiros> ^
<t4nk818> hell
<t4nk818> hello
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<t4nk818> quick question: how do I convert a string to an array str="['hello', 'people']"
<adymitruk> what does " plan = request.plan || "free"" do?
<apeiros> t4nk818: why on earth would you do that?
<nofxx> apeiros, that's sourcery! ;)
<adymitruk> it's not my code
<yorickpeterse> t4nk818: based on what do you want to convert it to an Array? Split on commas?
<apeiros> >> nil || "free"
<eval-in> apeiros => "free" (https://eval.in/179458)
<adymitruk> cloudfoundry old code
<adymitruk> :(
<apeiros> adymitruk: ^
<apeiros> t4nk818: JSON.load, YAML.load - for all I know
<yorickpeterse> adymitruk: assigns `request.plan` to `plan`. If the return value is nil it uses "free" instead
<t4nk818> commas not not working
<molgrew> I don't think the "why on earth" was about that assignment snippet
<yorickpeterse> t4nk818: oh derp, misread the example
<apeiros> t4nk818: if you want better answers, provide better information
<yorickpeterse> eval()
<adymitruk> yorickpeterse: thought so
* yorickpeterse runs
* apeiros hits yorickpeterse with a stick
<yorickpeterse> >> foo = false || 'yup'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "yup" (https://eval.in/179459)
<adymitruk> yorickpeterse: if plan is not nill, then what?
<yorickpeterse> >> foo = true || 'nope'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => true (https://eval.in/179460)
<apeiros> >> "foo" || "bar"
<eval-in> apeiros => "foo" (https://eval.in/179461)
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<apeiros> || will return the first non-nil, non-false value
<yorickpeterse> basically you can read that as:
<apeiros> otherwise, the last value
<apeiros> >> nil || false
<yorickpeterse> plan = request.plan OR "free"
<eval-in> apeiros => false (https://eval.in/179462)
<yorickpeterse> Note that you can't use `or` in this case I believe, since it will always return a boolean
<yorickpeterse> >> foo = 'foo' or 'bar'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "foo" (https://eval.in/179463)
<yorickpeterse> hmm
<yorickpeterse> >> foo = false or 'bar'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => "bar" (https://eval.in/179464)
<yorickpeterse> aha
<yorickpeterse> so you can
<adymitruk> so it is a short-circuited 'OR'
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<yorickpeterse> just an alternative writing form in this case
<apeiros> or is the same as ||, except for precedence
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<adymitruk> so what is the full functionality of ||
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: I never got why it has a different precedence
<yorickpeterse> like...the fuck
<apeiros> to fuck with peoples minds
<yorickpeterse> adymitruk: it's just an "or" operator
<yorickpeterse> `x || y` means "x or y"
<apeiros> it's even worse. && and || have different precedence. and/or have the same
<yorickpeterse> foo = x || y # assing x (or y) to foo
<yorickpeterse> * assign
<adymitruk> in other langs, or and || are both valid. but one short-circuits and the other doesn't.. is this the case here?
<apeiros> no
<yorickpeterse> >> false || puts 'wtf'
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => /tmp/execpad-97bddbbf464c/source-97bddbbf464c:2: syntax error, unexpected tSTRING_BEG, expecting keyword_do or '{' or '(' ... (https://eval.in/179465)
<yorickpeterse> errr
<apeiros> both short-circuit
<yorickpeterse> >> false || puts('wtf')
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => wtf ... (https://eval.in/179466)
<yorickpeterse> >> true || puts('wtf')
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => true (https://eval.in/179467)
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<yorickpeterse> so what apeiros said
<adymitruk> ok.. so I don't get it
<adymitruk> or and || are identical other than precedence?
<apeiros> yes
<adymitruk> nice
<apeiros> I think that's inherited from perl
<adymitruk> so or is used as a multiplier in the binary sense
<adymitruk> and gets promoted for that reason
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<adymitruk> err, not multiplier but you get what I'm saying
<adymitruk> + and X in set math
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<adymitruk> rather || is used as that
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<yorickpeterse> "583 examples, 1 failure" hnnng, so close
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<apeiros> so far
<apeiros> from utter failure ;-)
<yorickpeterse> well, it had like 17 failures for 1,5 weeks
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<croe93> Hello.
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<yorickpeterse> no humans here, only programs
<croe93> Damn it. But programs can't help me fix programs!
* realDAB is vaguely human
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<apeiros> somebody calling himself digital audio broadcast can't be human!!!
<apeiros> ;-)
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<apeiros> not even if his name is david :)
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<totally-not-skyn> DAMN IT
<totally-not-skyn> I hate IRC nick limits
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<apeiros> lol
<croe93> Okay. Guys. I somehow made Ruby seg fault. And I can not determine why.
<croe93> Can someone look at this stack trace and my code and tell me why I'm retarded.
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<yorickpeterse> what's in pla_update_api.rb:269 ?
<yorickpeterse> -> /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p545/extensions/x86_64-linux/1.9.1/tiny_tds-0.6.2/tiny_tds/tiny_tds.so
<yorickpeterse> to be exact: /usr/local/rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.3-p545/extensions/x86_64-linux/1.9.1/tiny_tds-0.6.2/tiny_tds/tiny_tds.so(+0x3782) [0x7f83d26ae782] result.c:145
<yorickpeterse> I'd start looking there
<croe93> That line in my Ruby code is simply the start of my .each from my TinyTDS result object
<croe93> It's odd, because I only get seg faults when running it on my VPS. On my local machine, it works fine.
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<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/rails-sqlserver/tiny_tds/blob/ef0f7443b0c87f2a9c67b15893754e0c0aba7396/ext/tiny_tds/result.c#L145 hm, seems to crap out here (at least if the line numbers match)
<croe93> That would make sense. It only craps out on the next object in .each. So, when it calls the C next row function it segfaults.
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<croe93> Maybe my TinyTDS result object is only grabbing a single row rather than the 40,000 I'm expecting.
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<yorickpeterse> "581 examples, 0 failures" :D:D
<yorickpeterse> how to fix tests:
<yorickpeterse> 1. remove code
<yorickpeterse> 2. remove tests
<yorickpeterse> done
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<banister> yorickpeterse what's up yorickje
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<yorickpeterse> banister: Ah, I see you're having the Dutch kawaii phase :P
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<banister> ;)
<banister> yorickpeterse i bought an oma fiets the other day, but my gf says it's a womans bike and i should be ashamed, is she right?
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<molgrew> loaded question
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<yorickpeterse> banister: no she's messing with you
<yorickpeterse> banister: have you not been to Amsterdam and not seen *everybody* (minus the tourists) ride them?
<banister> yorickpeterse idk, there also seems to be a male dutch style bike
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<banister> yorickpeterse with a straight bar but still the weird dutch style handlebars etc
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<realDAB> apeiros: :-)
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<adymitruk> is this just going to do nothing?
<molgrew> maybe
<yorickpeterse> banister: the straight bar ones are a PITA
<molgrew> what value does @plan_mgmt have?
<yorickpeterse> I have an oma fiets too, most people do
<adymitruk> nothing
<adymitruk> molgrew: it just got assigned {}
<adymitruk> []
<molgrew> no, that's plan_mgmt
<adymitruk> ah.. so @plan_mgmt and plan_mgmt are different.. ugh
<jhass> @plan_mgmt is an instance variable, plan_mgmt is a local variable
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<realDAB> i was the owner of this channel once
<realDAB> but then someone poached my nick
<realDAB> now it's in limbo
<realDAB> unless the guy who poached my nick is the owner :-)
<realDAB> and owner is probably the wrong word. you know what i mean.
<adymitruk> jhass: thanks.. that's not convention, it's part of the language, right?
<jhass> right
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<molgrew> yorickpeterse: and are you ashamed?
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<jtoy> how would one simply implement "replace {{name}}" with a hash['name'] ='jtoy' , so I can call it like fix_string(string,hash) ?
<jtoy> and I get "replace jtoy" back ?
<jhass> looks like a mustache template?
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<jtoy> im trying to not have dependencies, its a very small app
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<jtoy> and tis internal, so I dont need any fancy stuff protection
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<jhass> .gsub(/\{\{[^}]+\}\}/, hash.map {|k, v| ["{{#{k}}}", v]}.to_h) I guess
<jhass> something in that direction
<jtoy> ! hash={}; "{{car}} asdda " .gsub(/\{\{[^}]+\}\}/, hash.map {|k, v| ["{{#{k}}}", v]}.to_h)
<jtoy> !1
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<yorickpeterse> molgrew: no?
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<molgrew> you don't know?
<yorickpeterse> as in "No of course not you knob"
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