<|jemc|> goyox86: looks like https://github.com/grafana/grafana-docker is using envtpl to do this work (use environment variables to set up config.js) - I'll look into doing the same
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<|jemc|> goyox86: I added the ability to set the INFLUXDB_SERVER via environment variable passed to the container with -e (see the updated README)
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<goyox86> morning!
<yopp> morning
<yopp> When I woke up, RUB lost -30%.
<yorickpeterse> Russian co-worker made the joke that everything in Russia is now 50% off
<yorickpeterse> "I would recommend to visit my home country for upcoming holidays - actually EVERYTHING has 50% discount now"
<[spoiler]> LOL
<[spoiler]> I have relatives in Russia; time to send them on a shopping mission
<yopp> yorickpeterse, 65¡
<yopp> oops, now even -65%!
<yopp> (Since jun '14)
<yopp> [spoiler], they should get USD, while they can :)
<yopp> In cash
<yopp> Because, it seem like we will see christmas/new year "Bankfall"
<[spoiler]> It might be a temporary inflation though
<[spoiler]> didn't something similar already happen in Russia like a couple of years ago, or in Ukraine?
<yorickpeterse> don't fear comrades, Putin got you covered
<yorickpeterse> he'll just take the rest of the Ukraine and sell it
<yorickpeterse> Disregard sovereignty, acquire currency
<yopp> [spoiler], nope, it's not temporary. It's just a beginning
<[spoiler]> The current state of Earth is so saddening
<yopp> There about 6 month gap between oil and gas prices, so after NY we will se sudden fall in gas tax income
<yopp> •see
<yopp> And because there a lot of goods are imported, we will see "real" goods inflation
<yopp> And then a lot of people will be fired
<yopp> So, there no bottom right now
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<yopp> wow
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<yopp> USDRUB -20%
<yopp> in a half a day
<yopp> fucking fuck
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<headius> yopp: it's a pretty bad situation
<yopp> yeah, EUR hit 100RUB today.
<yopp> So it's official, 1RUB is now called eurocent!
<headius> interest rate hikes can't stem this kind of depreciation if nobody wants to buy
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<goyox86> Hey guys right now HAMT is enabled by default?
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<headius> I didn't think so...but I could be wrong
<headius> I'm curious why you ask
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<yorickpeterse> goyox86: not by default
<goyox86> headius I'm just running some benchmarks here locally the ones in rubinius-benchmark and I wanted to comaped both speed and memory efficiency of the "regular" hash vs HAMT implementation
<goyox86> compare*
<headius> I was under the impression that hamt was still quite a bit slower, but I haven't heard any recent numbers
<yorickpeterse> goyox86: there's some -X option to enable it though
<goyox86> -Xhamt?
<brixen> goyox86: -Xhash.hamt
<brixen> goyox86: there are two aspects to hamt perf: execution speed and space
<brixen> execution speed is slightly less unless you factor in redistribution and the cost of the space inefficiency in the chained bucket hash
<goyox86> brixen as far as I understand the branching factor of hamt is higher right, so it should use less memory?
<brixen> hamt is near ideal for space, and much much better as the Hash gets large
<brixen> the branching factor isn't the reason it uses less memory
<brixen> it's a more compact structure, there is almost no wasted space
<goyox86> I see
<brixen> the load factor is near 1.0 whereas load in the chained bucket hash can't exceed about 0.75 without driving up execution speed
<brixen> anyway, hamt will be the default very soon
<goyox86> brixen sweet
<goyox86> BTW brixen I started "Rubinius Metrics meet InfluxDB part II" -> https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius.github.io/pull/42
<brixen> goyox86: ah cool!
<brixen> goyox86: are you collaborating with |jemc| on that?
<goyox86> <|jemc|> did everything yesterday I was helping him to test on OS X and he fixed the issued yesterday I think
<brixen> ok
<brixen> I mean on the blog post though
<brixen> yorickpeterse: thanks for all that ticket cleanup
<goyox86> ah no that was me ;)
<brixen> ok, just curious if you'll check with him, too
<brixen> I think he mentioned something about a post as well
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<yorickpeterse> brixen: np, there's a bunch more that I'll go through this week
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<brixen> ok
<goyox86> brixen Yup, He did that's why I said that I've started the post. I just did it because I'm in Dublin so everything happens here first :d. Either way I think <jemc|> should review that post to see if he likes it
<brixen> ok, cool
<goyox86> @brixen I have a couple of questions regading RBX GC, now that I'm seeing the memory sizes using the dashboard
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<yorickpeterse> goyox86: shoot
<goyox86> Which strategy is used for the young generation?
<goyox86> Baker GC?
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<brixen> yeah
<brixen> it's a semi-space, copying collector
<brixen> and if I'm seeing your numbers right, the tuning is still messed up
<brixen> anyone getting "Too many open files" running cucumber?
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<goyox86> yup and after "from" is filled it copied to "to" and the "to" is cleared in 0(1) right? (I always mess up which is "from" and wihic is "to" and always mees the thing up heh)
<goyox86> sorry the other is the one that gets cleared
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<yorickpeterse> brixen: Re gc, yes, I think there's a bunch of things we need to tweak
<yorickpeterse> judging from my own metrics at least
<brixen> yorickpeterse: yep
<headius> goyox86: is that 70kB?
<headius> for the young gen
<goyox86> headius I don't think so let me check
<headius> because that would be kinda small :-)
<goyox86> :) I'm using the defaults and I agree that should not be small that sounds like small for the young generation, either way you are talking about the graps in the PR?
<headius> yeah
<yorickpeterse> headius: so when will the FOSDEM results be announced?
<headius> yorickpeterse: finalizing schedule today
<goyox86> headius: Is the object count :)
<headius> goyox86: so that's how many objects the young GC has reclaimed?
<yorickpeterse> headius: Ah ok
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<headius> goyox86: what's the Y axis on the others?
<goyox86> All of them are counts
<goyox86> brixen app.gc.*.count metrcics are reclaimed objects or live objects counts?
<goyox86> metrics*
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<headius> if it were live objects I'd expect to see sawtoothing
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<headius> goyox86: oh, I think it's number of GC runs
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<brixen> goyox86: the object counts are under memory. key
<brixen> memory is the object memory, gc is the process that preserves the illusion of infinite memory :)
<goyox86> brixen and app.gc.*.count are gc runs count?
<brixen> yep
<headius> goyox86: sorry, I didn't notice the metric name at the bottom of the graphs
<goyox86> brixen for object counts I should look at /rbx.memory.*.objects.current/ right?
<brixen> memory.*.objects.*
<brixen> goyox86: bbiab
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<goyox86> |jemc| you there?
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<|jemc|> goyox86: yep
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<|jemc|> heh, SystemCallError takes an undocumented optional third argument in MRI
<|jemc|> err.. SystemCallError.new
<|jemc|> >> ri SystemCallError.new
<|jemc|> ... SystemCallError.new(msg, errno) ...
<|jemc|> >> SystemCallError.new 'foo', 2
<|jemc|> => #<Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - foo>
<|jemc|> >> SystemCallError.new 'foo', 2, 'bar'
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<|jemc|> => #<Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory @ bar - foo>
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<brixen> |jemc|: sweet, thanks
<brixen> |jemc|: you can commit those directly to rbx, you have commit bit
<brixen> I mean, not for that PR
<brixen> but in general
<|jemc|> brixen: yeah, for some reason it feels more right to make the change in rubyspec first, although I know they get synced up bidirectionally.
<|jemc|> anyway, working on the fix now
<brixen> |jemc|: well, the pressure on you to implement the feature goes up if you push to rbx repo :)
<brixen> if you do implement the feature, you now have to wrangle the separation
<brixen> this is why I make it possible to commit specs to rbx
<|jemc|> makes sense - I'll do it that way in the future
<brixen> yeah, the connection is important
<brixen> now if someone looks in rbx at your feature, they can't see the relation to the specs
<brixen> honestly, I should never have split rubyspec out of rbx
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<GitHub23> [rubinius] brixen pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/rz_TXQ
<GitHub23> rubinius/master 4f12871 Brian Shirai: Updated CI specs to RubySpec 07d5b741.
<GitHub23> rubinius/master bd6a7f8 Brian Shirai: Updated MSpec source to b437013f.
<GitHub23> rubinius/master 86b5089 Brian Shirai: Updated CI tags.
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<brixen> |jemc|: there ya go :)
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<travis-ci> rubinius/rubinius/master (86b5089 - Brian Shirai): http://travis-ci.org/rubinius/rubinius/builds/44268675: The build passed.
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