06:14 <marcus> yeah, paul prepared the debian/embedian doc and archive for jessie: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Emdebian

06:14 <marcus> so it now should be possible to boot jessie from sdcard on a nano

07:03 <kyak> tell us about your experience with debian. I believe it will be pretty slow

09:07 <marcus> have not build it yet, but if i figured it out, i will let you know

09:14 <marcus> hopefully we will soon have libre drivers for PowerVR

09:20 <kyak> i thought you'd just use prebuilt mips debian

12:01 <damokr> Seems like a good time to bring up what I have done on the NN. Built 4.1 kernel with a hardcoded command line to boot from SD partition 1. Actually built several kernel variations

12:01 <damokr> such as a kexec,a uImage and a small uImage to fit in nand all with different hard coded command lines for different partitions. Built several modules to play with. Btfrs, ntfs,

12:02 <damokr> f2fs and a few others. I used buildroot to make a systemd rootfs and boot to that. Plus I have a jessie debian directory that I use as a systemd-nspawn container. I can ssh into the

12:02 <damokr> container and export to a X Display and run some X stuff. Its a little slow. But hey, I can try out stuff with python and bottle. Run apache (really slow). What are you guys doing

12:02 <damokr> with the NN? I wish I could get the atusb/atben to work without the ack problem (sometimes it does, depending on the mobo I hook it to). Or even get the sd wifi to work.

12:03 <kyak> well, it's a shame but my NN is collecting dust on a shelf

12:07 <damokr> The NN is the most prtable test mcahine I have. I spend lots of time waiting. Waitin on the bus, waiting on the car pool, waiting in the doctors office ( for other family members). Wating, waiting........

12:08 <kyak> there is a very limiting factor to that.. no fucking internet

12:08 <kyak> and then my hand goes to the phone...

12:09 <kyak> yeah, my phone doesn't have gcc

12:09 <kyak> or linux. But Internet!

12:12 <damokr> I spend time trying NOT to connect to the interent. I can do lots of local net things on the NN. But also have a phone with a chroot debian distro. Just run VNC and I have the gui. Woohoo internet stuff.

12:18 <kyak> unfortunately, my phone runs symbian :) i had a hard time updating timezone data now that nokia doesn't send updates anymore

12:26 <wpwrak> heh, how fitting. web radio started to play "Your Distant World" when the phase feeding my internet access came back. that track has a very orchestral opening, ideal for some sort of sunrise or similar

12:28 <kyak> and you really think this is a coincidence?

12:29 <wpwrak> of course not. they were monitoring my link status and quickly adapted the playlist to welcome me properly.

12:30 <kyak> and now they are partying because their evil plan has worked!

12:36 <wpwrak> why evil ? submissive-deferential, as it becomes those in the presence of their betters

12:36 <kyak> i can't imaging what differential is

13:33 <marcus> damokr, are you planning to document the steps on the wiki? or maybe provide a sdcard image?

13:49 <damokr> never thought about documenting it. I suppose I could, if there's interest. I can provide the systemd rootfs (its small) and the deb directory with systemd installed so that systemd-nspawn can be run.

14:25 <DocScrutinizer05> blaerg!

14:25 <DocScrutinizer05> ;-)

14:26 <DocScrutinizer05> watch your first step!

14:29 <DocScrutinizer05> https://devuan.org/

14:35 <DocScrutinizer05> to be utterly clear: I don't think systemd is meant to go on NN or other embedded stuff like that. Poettering been *very* clear on that, like "who cares about embedded? They can go roll their own distro without systemd. Systemd will NOT care if it can run on embedded, it's meant to work on systems that have one single rootfs of contenporary size - like 5 GB"

14:36 <DocScrutinizer05> or was it 50GB?

14:41 <damokr> It was interesting project to get it running. Had to learn systemd anyway, so might as well see if I could get it on the NN. I didn't expect it to work, but it did. had a little trouble with agetty. I think the BeagleBone uses it.

14:47 <pcercuei> what libc are you using?

14:47 <pcercuei> IIRC systemd won't even compile with uClibc

14:57 <damokr> glibc. buildroot wouldn't let you select uclibc anyway.

14:58 <pcercuei> why not?

15:05 <damokr> If you select uclibc, the init system defaults back to busybox or systemV.

15:09 <pcercuei> ah, yes

18:25 <arossdotme> is it possible to buy little 3amp fast charging boards/modules for a 6600mh li-po batt?

18:27 <arossdotme> all i can find is 1amp ones or RC batt pack charges that aren't what i want, there big and need a RC batt pack cus they connect to each cell separately

18:30 <DocScrutinizer05> connect to each cell is exactly what you should do dor a multicell pack - particularly for fast charging

18:30 <DocScrutinizer05> or you'll inveitably overcharge single cells of the pack

18:31 <DocScrutinizer05> which kills your whole pack in no time