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paul_boddie >
Still no real progress, although I found a blog post where someone suggests using -O linux -T kernel with mkimage:
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Just great: rebuilt U-Boot from openwrt-xburst and now MMC-booting only gets as far as "mmc1 is available".
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hates U-Boot.
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eintopf >
paul_boddie: try barebox
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paul_boddie >
On the NanoNote?
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paul_boddie >
I actually want to get something working with U-Boot elsewhere, though.
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eintopf >
mhh, then you need to port at first. yep
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paul_boddie >
Now I just have to figure out how to update openwrt-xburst using git. Sigh!
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paul_boddie >
Or just clone the damned thing again for my own sanity's sake.
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wpwrak >
get rid of it ? :)
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paul_boddie >
Git, OpenWrt or U-Boot?
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paul_boddie >
I thought people wanted to write their own nice bootloader, but I guess they didn't finish it.
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eintopf >
paul_boddie: I think wpwrak opinion is more "bootloaders are useless"
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bootloaders are very useful - and should be extremely simple :)
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eintopf >
so extremely simple would be "start kernel only"
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wpwrak >
yup, with some initramfs that does the rest
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eintopf >
yea, I remember that
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paul_boddie >
And not leave the hardware in some weird state.
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Meanwhile, it's branch surfing time as OpenWrt fails to build its toolchain for some reason unknown to man.
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wpwrak >
i would advocate that the kernel should try to initialize as much of the hardware as possible, to minimize its dependency on the boot loader
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wpwrak >
you haven't experienced build failures if you haven't used OE ;-)
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eintopf >
maybe when I have time, then I will the idea of kboot
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wpwrak >
at openmoko, i was very happy when we got people who just took care of building the damn monster and making binary packages
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OE and related stuff are just hateful, really.
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wpwrak >
we seem to agree ;-)
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what is OE
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It's a relief in a way that Debian now actually has cross-compilers that work.
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wpwrak >
OpenEmbedded
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kinda like gentoo. but very fragile. getting it to build (which took forever) was like winning the lottery
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and we had the perverse setup of building code under development inside OE. so each time the monster blew up, development stopped.
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wpwrak >
well, that was for the application people. we also had a simple SDK that was sufficient for my kind of work. so i largely escaped :)
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eintopf >
you could script yourself some image generation foo
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eintopf >
and doing alle the cross compiling stuff
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eintopf >
but that's more crazy
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wpwrak >
i made a rootfs builder that just installed pre-compiled packages and then added my stuff. that worked quite nicely.
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eintopf >
pre-compiled :/
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I don't like that
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wpwrak >
well, there are so many bash variations you need :)
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wpwrak >
and if keeps the build failures on the other side of that package repo
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qi-bot >
wpwrak meant: "and it keeps the build failures on the other side of that package repo"
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tv is so boring, I think I read a book... perry rhodan. I am still at volume 1
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the most epic space opera ever ;-)
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Remembered to look up the magic formula to hopefully avoid building absolutely everything in OpenWrt:
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OK. MMC support is back! And suddenly my payload works for some reason.
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