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<wpwrak> hmm. another one goes up on smoke. seems that some current-limiting may be beneficial :)
<wpwrak> well, another FET could detect if Vout < ~0.7 V and trigger an interrupt. or directly cut power
<wpwrak> and a 1 Ohm series could further limit inrush current. just in case
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<wpwrak> whitequark: also tried a load step from ~100 Ohm to ~18 Ohm (at 1.8 V). i can't see any voltage change. not sure if this is good or bad ;-)
<wpwrak> at least the FET, 3rd in this role, didn't go up in smoke :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> huhß life in here?
<DocScrutinizer05> (<wpwrak> i wonder if this simple adjustable regulator could actually work) it would, but pretty poor efficiency
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<DocScrutinizer05> so it's OK for very low loads (except you'd still want a dedicated series resistor in line with D-S of FET), but for real supply it burns exactly same amount of energy like a linear regulator
<DocScrutinizer05> while introducing nasty noise
<DocScrutinizer05> actually it doesn't introduce any noise when that's an opamp and not a comparator (with hysteresis), since then your FET does work in linear range and not switched like you implied
<DocScrutinizer05> you should add some small buffer capacitor on output of opamp, to avoid it starting oscillation
<DocScrutinizer05> the problem with your design though seems that you want to use a *comparator* in a MCU
<DocScrutinizer05> this won't fly
<DocScrutinizer05> unless you intentionally design in some RC elements that determine the oscilation frequency
<DocScrutinizer05> your design best case is using the output buffer C and the assumed Ron of FET as such determining values, and that means you _will_ get wild oscillation at least in the magnitude of comparator's hysteresis
<DocScrutinizer05> oooh, and of cours Rload for discharge of the buffer C
<DocScrutinizer05> in theory the circuit works. In practice it's a nasty critter hard to tame and get stable
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<DocScrutinizer05> wpwrak: you probbaly should add a R-C lowpass/integrator after the comparator output and drive the FET gate from that integrated analog voltage
<DocScrutinizer05> that might actually work and result in a semi-usable and semi-stable output voltage
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<eintopf> hi DocScrutinizer05 :-)
<DocScrutinizer05> hi!
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<wpwrak> (RC) naw, that would defeat the idea of operating in switched mode. what i want is to minimize the power burnt in the FET, so i want it either all on or all off
<wpwrak> so far, the critter seems to work suspiciously well, but with a slight tendency of regulating too high with fast settings
<wpwrak> what is a little odd is that it drives the FET with bursts of pulses. so yes, there's more noise than strictly necessary
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<eintopf> in germany it's hotter than in buenos aires
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<larsc> only 27degree C in the office...
<wpwrak> eintopf: winter here ...
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<DocScrutinizer05> roh: CCC?
<DocScrutinizer05> BER?
<roh> ???
<DocScrutinizer05> by: http://www.raumfahrtagentur.org/
<DocScrutinizer05> Just wondered if you'll be there
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<roh> DocScrutinizer05: sure
<roh> no clue about details yet
<DocScrutinizer05> me neither
<DocScrutinizer05> but I might want a "village" with a tad of advertising for Neo900
<DocScrutinizer05> if anybody gets the point about that project, then the CCC visitors
<roh> hehe... so the project is still on track?
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<eintopf> mhh, the camp
<DocScrutinizer05> roh: well, sort of, yes
<DocScrutinizer05> more and more organizational crap getting in the way though, time sinks everywhere. Webshop, PayPal, markiting and PR and whatnot
<eintopf> DocScrutinizer05: you are from russia moscow?
<eintopf> and wants to tracel to the camp?
<DocScrutinizer05> hmm, why?
<eintopf> I had something like that in my mind :/
<DocScrutinizer05> nah, never seen Russia
<DocScrutinizer05> ~weather eddn
<infobot> Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2015.06.05 1920 UTC; Dew Point: 50 F (10 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.09 in. Hg (1019 hPa); Relative Humidity: 38%; Temperature: 77 F (25 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the E (090 degrees) at 5 MPH (4 KT)
<eintopf> oh yes
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<unclouded> ~weather chc
<unclouded> :~( not working for me
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