11:24 <kyak> wej: just letting you know, that gmu 0.9.1 works fine on nanonote

11:24 <kyak> gmuc is kind of strange.. it opens the playlist view by default, and i'm stuck there

11:25 <C-Keen> tab circles through

11:25 <kyak> it doesn't work

11:25 <kyak> i pressed it

11:26 <C-Keen> works for me (tm)

11:26 <kyak> btw, is it expected that songs without id tags are displayed blank in gmu playlist?

11:26 <C-Keen> yes

11:26 <kyak> can't it fallback to file name?

11:26 <C-Keen> it probably should, you should talk to upstream authors about that

11:27 <wej> nice :) about gmuc: gmuc connects to gmu through the gmuhttp.so plugin. this has to be enabled. by default, it listens only on the local loopbakc interface, but that should be fine for the nanonote, since it has no networking by default anyway. so if you just want gmu with an ncurses interface but no sdl interface, you would either omit the sdl.so plugin altogether, or call the gmu executable gmu.bin with the -p parameter specifying only frontends/gmuhttp.so

11:27 <wej> that way you can even run gmu completely headless and only connect with gmuc when you actually want to do something with it

11:28 <kyak> wej: ah, that explains.. i was just running "gmuc" without any parameters or gmu running elsewhere.. i will also double check if the gmuhttp.so is installed

11:28 <wej> yep :)

11:28 <wej> oh and there is a password authentication, both gmu and gmuc need to be configured with the same password (at least 9 chars long)

11:29 <wej> all that is also explained somewhere in the README.txt file :)

11:29 <kyak> wej: i also ignored the warning to edit config file, which it autogenerated :) i assumed i could live with defaults

11:29 <wej> hehe, yeah, in that config file you can set the password and hostname to connect to

11:30 <wej> in gmu's config file gmuhttp.Password should be set to the same password

11:30 <kyak> so you are more or less reproducing the mpd technology, right? Or are there any fundamental differences?

11:30 <wej> but gmuc will tell you if the login fails because of a password mismatch

11:31 <wej> kyak, it is somewhat different. with Gmu. for one, it is still possible to have a frontend running in the "server" like the sdl frontend does

11:31 <wej> also the client-server thing going on there is nt some proprietary gmu-protocol, but instead is http with websocket, so it is even possible to use a webbrowser to control Gmu

11:32 <kyak> soudn cool!

11:32 <wej> (i have even implemented a small client with javascript to be used in a browser)

11:32 <wej> works with any modern browser with websocket support like firefox or chromium. obviously this is mostly interesting for devices with some sort of networking

11:33 <kyak> ben is network-capable, sometimes :)

11:34 <wej> yeah, that's true, but not in its default configuration ;)

11:35 <wej> oh and the actual data transmitted over the network is encoded as JSON, so it is pretty easy to understand and to implement other clients or build more advanced web applications than the one i have supplied

11:36 <wej> none of that stuff has external dependencies though and i always try to keep things small, so they run well on devices with limited ressources

11:41 <kyak> wej: and that you do successfully

11:41 <wej> :)

11:42 <kyak> wej: do you think it makes sense to fall back to the file name display, if there are no id tags in file?

11:43 <wej> yeah, probably

11:43 <kyak> i probably don't have a lot of such files, but i noticed it when i wanted to test the capability to display cyrillic properly

11:43 <kyak> so i just 'touch'ed an mp3 file with cyrillic name :)

11:43 <wej> ah :>

11:44 <wej> sometimes there are files, that actually have meta data but where everything's empty. i am not entirely sure how to handle those. it is probably best to use the filename there as well

11:45 <wej> or something like everything is full of spaces but no visible characters

11:51 <kyak> yeah, that would be another case

15:44 <LunaVorax> Hi

19:12 <lekernel> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-02/20/c_132181495.htm

19:12 <lekernel> China mulls BBQ ban in major cities

19:14 <larsc> how many bbq do you need to get the equivalent of one factory?

19:23 <hellekin> lol a company is receiving a picture of a key, and sends back a copy of that key. Lockpicking made obsolete.

19:45 <larsc> lockpicking is probably still faster

19:53 <wpwrak> hellekin: does the picture include a size reference ? :)

19:54 <wpwrak> lekernel: in other news, argentine meat exports plummet

20:03 <hellekin> wpwrak: does that mean we'll get better meat in town for the net hacksado? :)

20:17 <larsc> does anybody know how to get the offset of a label to the current instruction in gnu asm?

20:21 <whitequark> larsc: 1: insn 1 - label ?

20:21 <whitequark> er, 1: insn 1b - label ?

20:21 <whitequark> something along these lines

20:23 <larsc> I think (.label - .) should also work

20:27 <larsc> at least the generated code looks good

20:43 <wpwrak> hellekin: i probably means that the good farmers go out of business and only the crappy ones survive. expect beef-horse-dog hybrid meat soon ...

21:10 <hellekin> wpwrak: please don't do this, I'm trying to recover from very low mood

21:10 <hellekin> I might become vegan

21:14 <wpwrak> hellekin: (low mood) did you find out that you're out of beer ? that would of course truly suck

21:14 <hellekin> wpwrak: man you're right.

21:16 <hellekin> maybe I should rush out and put my radar on your fridge wpwrak :)

21:17 <wpwrak> maybe you should learn from my example: whenever the fridge's beer content drops below 50%, start restocking :)

21:18 <hellekin> lol

21:19 <hellekin> wow, that's an industrial process

21:23 <wpwrak> preparedness is everything ;-)

22:53 <apelete> I'm tryin

22:54 <apelete> I'm trying to build a ubi image for the ben nanonote with openembedded

22:54 <apelete> I need to know if the ben nand flash chip has sub-page support

22:55 <apelete> does it ?

22:59 <wpwrak> apelete: dunno. but you can check the data sheet. e.g., here: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/hardware/datasheets/K9GAG08U0M.pdf

23:01 <apelete> thanks wpwrak, I was trying to get data from the device itself py poking around the linux filesystem, but that kind of data may not be reliable (it depends on how the software was configured)