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<wpwrak>
xiangfu: seems that either hong kong is slow or UPS updates don't penetrate the great chinese firewall
<xiangfu>
wpwrak, we wait.
<xiangfu>
I guess it will even slow when arrive China custom.
<wpwrak>
yeah, or maybe they do customs before departing hkg ? that would explain the delay
<wpwrak>
well, we'll see. sometimes, tracking data arrives in bursts. the universe is still full of mysteries ;-)
<xiangfu>
:)
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<wpwrak>
aah, progress at last :)
<wpwrak>
i guess "import scan" means that it's still at customs
<xiangfu>
great.
<xiangfu>
:)
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<wpwrak>
xiangfu: seems that customs want personalized attention :-( "Clearing Agency is requiring an invoice comparison to the items being shipped."
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<xiangfu>
oh
<wpwrak>
if it works like it does here, UPS should bring you some papers. with these, you then have to go to the customs depot and do whatever procedure they have in place there. let's hope it
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<wpwrak>
's not as messy as in argentina ...
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<xiangfu>
wpwrak, I will keep my phone power on. :)
<wpwrak>
you could try to call UPS and ask if there's anything you can do. but most likely, you just have to wait for the papers to arrive.
<xiangfu>
wpwrak, ok. I will try to call them.
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<xiangfu>
wpwrak, just finished the call. she said they will contact me in 3 days.
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<wpwrak>
hmm. pretty slow for what should be a routine task :)
<wpwrak>
of course, with the weekend ...
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<wpwrak>
ah well, more time to finish the software then. i have most of the basics working now.
<viric>
damn serial port damn
<viric>
stty -F /dev/tty0 -clocal ...
<viric>
and then I get only EIO
<viric>
until i reboot the computer
<viric>
The same happened to me in another computer, when I used the usual pc 16550 uart
<viric>
is all that code rotten or what, for uarts?
<viric>
that doesn't happen to me in ftdi cables.
<viric>
does anybody use a serial port here?
<larsc>
only usb to serial bridges
<viric>
ok
<viric>
larsc: on both sides?
<larsc>
on the other side is usually a embedded board
<viric>
ok
<viric>
debugging the uart is not a nice thing I guess.
<viric>
uart driver
<larsc>
but lots of them have uart16550 uarts
<larsc>
or similar
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<viric>
hm ok
<viric>
and what stty settings do you use in the workstation side, for 'cat /dev/ttyUSB0' to work?
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<larsc>
only use screen /dev/tty...
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<viric>
larsc: with screen? hm
<larsc>
yes, best terminal emulator ever ;)
<larsc>
well at least better than a lot of the alternatives
<viric>
how does it handle the ctrcts, dts, dsr, mess ?
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<larsc>
no idea
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<viric>
lucky you :)
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<xiangfu>
wpwrak, UPS is better then EMS. :) they just tell me that the package have cleared by custom.
<xiangfu>
but today is too late to deliver. and ups not work at weekend. so I will get the package next Monday.
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<wolfspraul>
xiangfu: werner will not believe that paperwork issues can just disappear like that
<wolfspraul>
but it's china, right? lots of paper is fought with lots of more paper and lots of stamps, and then it's all fine
<wolfspraul>
and people can go have dinner on time at 6 PM...
<wolfspraul>
for my part I expect nothing until you hold the functioning device in your hands :-)
<xiangfu>
(lots of paper is fought with lots of more paper and lots of stamps) :-D
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<wpwrak>
xiangfu: whee ! got lucky then ;-)
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: perhaps it was just a way for UPS to have an excuse for not delivering it today
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: after all, it was already getting late ...
<viric>
grmbl this ttyS0 line looks like not connected at all. No remote operation makes it receive an irq
<viric>
is xon/xoff implemented in the uart or the driver?
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<whitequark>
viric: maybe the interrupts are just broken
<whitequark>
not very uncommon
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<Guest29702>
a 32gb sd card fat is ok right? hmm
<Guest29702>
oh no never mind
<viric>
damn.
<viric>
whitequark: the interrupts counter increases when I do local stty operations
<viric>
but as for now, I can't really distinguish the situation from a no-cable situation :)
<Guest29702>
my nano note came! :D
<xiangfu>
Guest29702, great.
<larsc>
party!
<kyak>
friday evening, a new toy comes up, the weekend is ruined :)
<Guest29702>
yep
<Guest29702>
its abushctafter btw
<Guest29702>
just in time for bitcoin2012
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<viric>
whitequark: 'interrupts just broken', you mean a hw problem?
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<Guest29702>
btw will the batt last all day?
<kyak>
you realize it depends on what you do with your nanonote, right?
<Guest29702>
yes
<Guest29702>
gmx and todo & cal
<viric>
gmx?
<Guest29702>
musix
<Guest29702>
which img is best? Image_2012-04-09? curectly i have 2011-11-13
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<wpwrak>
aah ! restored to power :)
<xiangfu>
Guest29702, Image_2012-04-09 include all application and newest openwrt. for Image_2012-07-11 there are QT/GTK program broken. gmx and todo & cal works fine.
<xiangfu>
Guest29702, if you don't use any QT/GTK program. you can jump to latest image.
<Guest29702>
hmm thanks
<Guest29702>
whats inittab? : "Make nanonote inittab work with minimal, it will try to load gmen2x or sh"
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<xiangfu>
Guest29702, you can ignore that commit. it's for minimal build image.
<xiangfu>
Guest29702, so far all nanonote user using the full_system image.
<Guest29702>
ok
<xiangfu>
if there no gmenu2x . it will load sh for login.
<Guest29702>
arr
<viric>
inittab is a sysvinit configuration file
<Guest29702>
my todo list: flash,fill up 32gb sd card with goods, mplayer osd gui, poweroff audio, if python clap script to play/pause music. :)
<Guest29702>
oh and play with all the apps
<Guest29702>
:D and bitcoin1012 time table
<whitequark>
viric: sw one
<whitequark>
eg incorrect in-kernel routing
<viric>
ok
<viric>
whitequark: well the numbers increase when doing local changes to ttyS0
<whitequark>
I'd place a debug printk within the handler and dump the uart state register
<viric>
it should have debug code that can be enabled
<viric>
what do you think of CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG?
<viric>
(a bit unrelated to the UART)
<viric>
do you think it helps the kernel run fast, while having debug traces activable?
<viric>
whitequark: I could wire tx to rx. that should make for a test.
<Guest29702>
any one going to bitcoin 2012 london?
<paul_boddie>
"Integration of a legal information reporting infrastructure, which allows to generate detailed informations about the licenses and source code of all components of a system generated by Buildroot."
<paul_boddie>
One fewer excuse for vendors. :-)
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<viric>
whitequark: I'm trying to investigate hangs...
<viric>
whitequark: and one of the hangs happened at kernel boot, a while ago. Last line on screen, was:
<viric>
While on normal boot, it would be followed by:
<viric>
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
<viric>
00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
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<viric>
I think the serial port can receive, but not send
<viric>
(pin 3 touching gnd, makes rubbish to come)
<viric>
this thing is all broken. I'm stracing, this serial port blocks for seconds on close()
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<paul_boddie>
Guest29702: I guess your NanoNote had been updated to that 2011-11-13 image. Unless you want to mess around flashing the NAND, I recommend sticking with that image for now.
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<larsc>
wolfspraul: Maybe you know this, when you sign up for a USB VID, was it possible to check a box somewhere which says that you want to appear in the offical usb vendor id list on usb.org?
<viric>
I've no idea. It hangs from time to time, since months
<viric>
I've updated the bios two times, in the last two years. Now I've the latest frmo january.
<viric>
it's an asus deluxe board + phenomII
<viric>
it was a bit expensive.
<whitequark>
ah, so x86.
<whitequark>
I guess it's just broken in some weird way.
<wpwrak>
or, perhaps, weird in some broken way
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<viric>
:)
<viric>
yes damn computer
<Guest29702>
trying to rec for mic. All I getting is a high pitch squeak that fades down. like an air rad siren. what command do you use? rec -c 1 ./nnmic.wav
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<Guest29702>
yey got it recording working. had to adjust the (mic) levels more
<Guest29702>
must not ask questions of easily...
<Guest29702>
of =so
<Guest29702>
now I have raised the mic level back, still works. odd, or was upping the master levels to 100 that fixed it?... oh well
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<larsc>
might be a bug, can you try to reproduce it by rebooting the device?
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<LunaVorax>
Hello!
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<Guest29702>
heelo
<Guest29702>
the problem with recording is if the master catuar is not turned up then you get the werd recording. the levels I set are not saved. so on reboot it's back to the problem
<whitequark>
Guest29702: try "alsactl store" and "alsactl restore"
<whitequark>
or maybe "alsactl init" will help, through that's unlikely
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<Guest29702>
nope don't work
<Guest29702>
I get with the restore command: cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for reading : no such file
<whitequark>
mkdir -p /var/lib/alsa maybe?
<Guest29702>
nope
<Guest29702>
alsactrl load_state:1581?
<Guest29702>
I think I have read about this some were...