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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: fix translation of Note On and Pitch; add debug output (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/58d192b
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: added processing of program change events (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/45a0c17
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf: deleted. all this has long moved into flickernoise/src/compiler/ptest (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2d4a886
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: when reporting an unrecognized MIDI event, print its number (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/8e81abd
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<randras> hi, on the ben nanonote, the explorer application is integrated in gmenu2 or a separate one?
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<xiangfu> randras, in gmenu2x
<randras> xiangfu: thank you
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<kyak> not a Ben NanoNote killer, of course.. but hey, compare the specs for the same price
<kyak> kinda makes me sad
<viric> wifi also works more broadly than atben
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<kyak> if it was the only point...
<viric> no no
<viric> I mean as in qi technlogy vs closed world technology
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<roh> kyak: where to you get the idea that a low end android crap tablet would kill anything?
<viric> it's full of low end android craps
<roh> i got oiles of such stuff around due to work, and believe me.. its not worth 50 bucks
<roh> bad screen, bad touch bad battery and: its a tablet and not really useable or practical if you got real computers nearby
<roh> if you search for a screen to nail to the wall for your new lighting system, sure. but for 'regular use' these devices are bust
<viric> oiles?
<viric> tablets are not for computer users.
<roh> from what i see they are not for use
<viric> people do not necessarily buy things they will use
<roh> they are there to be sold and generate numbers for google to hold up on shareholder meetings
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<Ayla> I'd rather see something like a smartphone dock
<Ayla> on which you can plug a keyboard, a monitor, etc
<Ayla> IMHO the future is smartphones + docks, not tablets
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<whitequark> roh: +1 about tablets.
<whitequark> or I'd say +1k.
<whitequark> the lowest device class on usefulness/cost scale
<Ayla> that's why it sells :p
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<whitequark> yeah
<whitequark> that's the reason I could not sell an apple (no, not the biten one) for $1k
<whitequark> it is more useful: you can at least eat it.
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<whitequark> oh damn.
<whitequark> qualcomm bought atheros. like years ago.
<wpwrak> sweet, eh ? :)
* whitequark has drawn a black contour over Atheros' name.
<whitequark> bye, friend
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<GNUtoo> indeed
<Artyom> kristianpaul: hi
<GNUtoo> and we even had free firmwares like for carlsomething
<kristianpaul> Artyom: hello
<Artyom> How is your GPS project?
<kristianpaul> havent tried the last HDL namuru of yours i adapted to m1
<kristianpaul> the tracking algortym is done, need to try it out
<Artyom> kristianpaul: Do I understand you right: you could check my namuru-port. And tracking is working? Or I didn't understand you correctly?
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<kristianpaul> I will try your namuru port, havent trie the bistream so i dont know if track works
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<Artyom> but the namuru-core itself works fine on wishbone-bus?
<kristianpaul> mine dont
<kristianpaul> well it was..
<Artyom> And did you try mine?
<kristianpaul> I will :)
<Artyom> ok
<Artyom> ^)
<Artyom> :)
<Artyom> And I switch back to SoftOSGPS. I need to understand better how some parts of the code are working.
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<Artyom> After careful examination of it's documentation code doesn't look as bad as it seemed before :)
<kristianpaul> you mean documentation code the PDF's?
<kristianpaul> from the developer website?
<kristianpaul> your words sounds very good then :)
<Artyom> But some parts are made very specific. Not like in the books that I've read ;)
<Artyom> Yes, pdf from official web site
<kristianpaul> so you run softosgps in real time?
<kristianpaul> I plan to make gpsrcvr to run on rtems..
<kristianpaul> as soon i can confirm tracking
<Artyom> no, it's too slow to work in real time ;) It is about 10 times slower then real time
<Artyom> And I plan to experiment with bare-metal during some time... Just like OSGPS work. And later I would like to switch to RTEMS
<kristianpaul> yeah, how you plan store ephemeris witn bare-metal?
<kristianpaul> or is okay just cold start?
<kristianpaul> i like bare-metal btw :)
<kristianpaul> i just use rtems for the yafss (nor filesystem) support
<Artyom> At first I can use only cold-start. Later I think I will try to invent something to put ephemeris+almanac in the flash memory.
<Artyom> Or may be even transmit this data through uart
<kristianpaul> Artyom: does namuru uses same memory map as gp2021?
<Artyom> no, it doesn't
<kristianpaul> i was thinkign about doing a table for showing register equivalences
<kristianpaul> so in theory once this memory map is OK, gpsrcvr should work..
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<kristianpaul> with some minors tweask about timing ..
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<Artyom> Except registers also magic numbers must be corrected (Do you remember out conversation about numbers that depend on clock frequency like TIC-control-word, accum_int-sontrol-word and so on)
<kristianpaul> yes i rember
<Artyom> I also want to correct some parts of the code. Also add IQ-data support. and GLONASS support.
<kristianpaul> IQ :D
<kristianpaul> to softosgps you mean=
<kristianpaul> ?
<kristianpaul> ah well should me same for gpsrcvr
<Artyom> softosgps and namuru-core too
<Artyom> BTW there is interesting new book about hardware receivers: http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-GPS-Receivers-Hardware-Approach/dp/1461404088
<kristianpaul> oh hardware aprouch
<Artyom> time to sleep for me... It's 1:14am here... bye!
<kristianpaul> bye !
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