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[commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: fix translation of Note On and Pitch; add debug output (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/58d192b
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[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/perf: deleted. all this has long moved into flickernoise/src/compiler/ptest (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/2d4a886
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[commit] Werner Almesberger: midi2osc: when reporting an unrecognized MIDI event, print its number (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/8e81abd
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<randras>
hi, on the ben nanonote, the explorer application is integrated in gmenu2 or a separate one?
<kyak>
not a Ben NanoNote killer, of course.. but hey, compare the specs for the same price
<kyak>
kinda makes me sad
<viric>
wifi also works more broadly than atben
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<kyak>
if it was the only point...
<viric>
no no
<viric>
I mean as in qi technlogy vs closed world technology
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<roh>
kyak: where to you get the idea that a low end android crap tablet would kill anything?
<viric>
it's full of low end android craps
<roh>
i got oiles of such stuff around due to work, and believe me.. its not worth 50 bucks
<roh>
bad screen, bad touch bad battery and: its a tablet and not really useable or practical if you got real computers nearby
<roh>
if you search for a screen to nail to the wall for your new lighting system, sure. but for 'regular use' these devices are bust
<viric>
oiles?
<viric>
tablets are not for computer users.
<roh>
from what i see they are not for use
<viric>
people do not necessarily buy things they will use
<roh>
they are there to be sold and generate numbers for google to hold up on shareholder meetings
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<Ayla>
I'd rather see something like a smartphone dock
<Ayla>
on which you can plug a keyboard, a monitor, etc
<Ayla>
IMHO the future is smartphones + docks, not tablets
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<whitequark>
roh: +1 about tablets.
<whitequark>
or I'd say +1k.
<whitequark>
the lowest device class on usefulness/cost scale
<Ayla>
that's why it sells :p
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<whitequark>
yeah
<whitequark>
that's the reason I could not sell an apple (no, not the biten one) for $1k
<whitequark>
it is more useful: you can at least eat it.
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<whitequark>
oh damn.
<whitequark>
qualcomm bought atheros. like years ago.
<wpwrak>
sweet, eh ? :)
* whitequark
has drawn a black contour over Atheros' name.
<whitequark>
bye, friend
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<GNUtoo>
indeed
<Artyom>
kristianpaul: hi
<GNUtoo>
and we even had free firmwares like for carlsomething
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: hello
<Artyom>
How is your GPS project?
<kristianpaul>
havent tried the last HDL namuru of yours i adapted to m1
<kristianpaul>
the tracking algortym is done, need to try it out
<Artyom>
kristianpaul: Do I understand you right: you could check my namuru-port. And tracking is working? Or I didn't understand you correctly?
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<kristianpaul>
I will try your namuru port, havent trie the bistream so i dont know if track works
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<Artyom>
but the namuru-core itself works fine on wishbone-bus?
<kristianpaul>
mine dont
<kristianpaul>
well it was..
<Artyom>
And did you try mine?
<kristianpaul>
I will :)
<Artyom>
ok
<Artyom>
^)
<Artyom>
:)
<Artyom>
And I switch back to SoftOSGPS. I need to understand better how some parts of the code are working.
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<Artyom>
After careful examination of it's documentation code doesn't look as bad as it seemed before :)
<kristianpaul>
you mean documentation code the PDF's?
<kristianpaul>
from the developer website?
<kristianpaul>
your words sounds very good then :)
<Artyom>
But some parts are made very specific. Not like in the books that I've read ;)
<Artyom>
Yes, pdf from official web site
<kristianpaul>
so you run softosgps in real time?
<kristianpaul>
I plan to make gpsrcvr to run on rtems..
<kristianpaul>
as soon i can confirm tracking
<Artyom>
no, it's too slow to work in real time ;) It is about 10 times slower then real time
<Artyom>
And I plan to experiment with bare-metal during some time... Just like OSGPS work. And later I would like to switch to RTEMS
<kristianpaul>
yeah, how you plan store ephemeris witn bare-metal?
<kristianpaul>
or is okay just cold start?
<kristianpaul>
i like bare-metal btw :)
<kristianpaul>
i just use rtems for the yafss (nor filesystem) support
<Artyom>
At first I can use only cold-start. Later I think I will try to invent something to put ephemeris+almanac in the flash memory.
<Artyom>
Or may be even transmit this data through uart
<kristianpaul>
Artyom: does namuru uses same memory map as gp2021?
<Artyom>
no, it doesn't
<kristianpaul>
i was thinkign about doing a table for showing register equivalences
<kristianpaul>
so in theory once this memory map is OK, gpsrcvr should work..
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<kristianpaul>
with some minors tweask about timing ..
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<Artyom>
Except registers also magic numbers must be corrected (Do you remember out conversation about numbers that depend on clock frequency like TIC-control-word, accum_int-sontrol-word and so on)
<kristianpaul>
yes i rember
<Artyom>
I also want to correct some parts of the code. Also add IQ-data support. and GLONASS support.