<qwebirc58386> hi1
<qwebirc58386> what is the current state of wiki reader programs?
<wolfspraul> qwebirc58386: I don't think very usable at all
<qwebirc58386> :(
<qwebirc58386> any projects in progress?
<wolfspraul> but I haven't tried in a while
<wolfspraul> he, yes. all over the place. :-)
<wolfspraul> but if you are asking about openzim in particular, or fast openzim viewers, or actual openzim files, I think it's all slow
<wolfspraul> I think most work right now is still in the lower levels, reflashing, u-boot, kernel, openwrt rootfs, debian & jlime, porting console apps, working on gui toolkits (quite a lot of work around qt4 for example)
<wolfspraul> I assume you just want to _use_ offline wikis, now :-)
<wolfspraul> so then the answer is: doesn't work
<wolfspraul> if you want to help hacking, wow, yes, many places you can start
<wolfspraul> the openzim team doesn't look very active to me, for example
<kristianpaul> qwebirc58386: i use this in my computer https://launchpad.net/wikipediadumpreader
<kristianpaul> wikipedia dumps are small compareted to get zim files in order to read
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: are you using this on a NanoNote?
<kristianpaul> wolfspraul: dint try it yet cause rquire X
<wolfspraul> I like this concept, reuse the existing dumps that are already produced for all wikis today
<kristianpaul> indeed
<wolfspraul> no need to always reinvent the wheel with yet another dump format
<wolfspraul> one of the many reasons why the openzim project seems stuck
<kristianpaul> actully the sofware make an index of the dump so is easy to read after that
<wolfspraul> sure I can imagine, the key design idea first is to accept the data in the format that is most widely available today
<wolfspraul> :-)
<wolfspraul> and they got that right :-)
<wolfspraul> then build on top of that
<kristianpaul> also they uses comond gnu tools like grep
<wolfspraul> I am wondering whether we can get this to work on the NanoNote
<wolfspraul> our screen estate is super valuable, so it has to be content only
<wolfspraul> nothing wasted for widgets and stuff
<wolfspraul> text only would be fine as a first step, if it would only work, and would be fast
<kristianpaul> i'll write to de debel asking for command line version just to wonder what respond
<kristianpaul> s/devbel/devel
<wolfspraul> qwebirc58386: so there you go, I wasn't aware of this project and it's not fit for NN today, but still maybe that's another more promising angle
<wolfspraul> yes definitely
<kristianpaul> sent
<kristianpaul> this reder uses grep zcat and other gnu tools :)
<kristianpaul> s/reder/reader
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: let's get something like that to the NanoNote
<wolfspraul> then we don't have to wait forever for the elusive openzim solution
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: k I'm out, thanks for the link to this interesting project. too many things going on...
<kristianpaul> wolfspraul: bye
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: hi, have you checked our spanish flier?
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: how do you like it? Am I do it right with the text?
<kristianpaul> zhangyi: hey
<kristianpaul> zhangyi: i reply the mail 10 seconds ago ;)
<kristianpaul> zhangyi: i like
<kristianpaul> i see there small error and the in contact box
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: aha, yes, just got the mail :)
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: thanks! i will fix the error
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: i plan to send it to printing shop on Monday. hopefully, it comes out good
<kristianpaul> zhangyi: cool
<kristianpaul> btw  i liked:  DIY? Do it togheter
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: you mean the sticker?
<kristianpaul> zhangyi: yes
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: oh, good. we haven't settled on stickers yet
<zhangyi> kristianpaul: thanks for the feedback
<rafa> larsc: for http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/ , which target you use to build uImage file.. openwrt and others  use make uImage, but no in this case.
<rafa> you use to build the uImage file?*
<rafa> mkimage with some args perhaps?..
<rafa> larsc: ahh.. great. Thanks a lot
<rafa> argh.. no luck :( .. I have not able to boot a useful kernel yet with kernel messages on console
<rafa> I have tested openwrt kernel, http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/ and jlime kernel.. And I have used 3 toolchains as well.
<rafa> I can see the logo on console, so something is happening when booting.. but without useful messages it is not easy to debug
<rafa> :(
<qi-commits> Lars-Peter Clausen: jz4740: PWM: Fix pwm disble. http://qi-hw.com/p/qi-kernel/2faa20a
<rafa> tuxbrain: you there?
<tuxbrain> rafa: hello?
<xakh> tuxbrain: ping
<xakh> every time I try to compile and stuff it says
<xakh> ERROR: please fix target/linux/mx2/Makefile
<xakh> it runs the command, then says it again after it finishes
<larsc> ignore it
<xakh> ok
<xakh> larsc, wanna help me cross compile somethin?
<larsc> xakh: depends
<xakh> okay
<xakh> gimme a seco
<xakh> I have the makefile necessary to make it into a package
<xakh> I just need to know what the command is to make the file run
<xakh> since I compiled the base system already
<larsc> what file?
<larsc> your package makefile?
<xakh> yeah
<larsc> make package/name_here/compile V=99
<xakh> ah
<xakh> ok
<xakh> to compile it for xburst?
<larsc> for whatever target you selected
<xakh> ok
<xakh> do I have to do it inside something?
<xakh> hello?
<urandom_> i dont think you have to do it inside something, from console i think
<xakh> ok
<xakh> do I use the tar.gz or the makefile for making
<urandom_> i am learning how to cross compile myself
<xakh> what're you going to compile, if you don't mind my asking?
<urandom_> the makefile i think
<xakh> ok
<urandom_> oh there ist a lot i would like to try
<xakh> xakh@WarMachine:~/openwrt/package/leafpad$ make package/leafpad/Makefile/compile V=99
<xakh> Makefile:8: /rules.mk: No such file or directory
<xakh> Makefile:22: /package.mk: No such file or directory
<xakh> make: *** No rule to make target `/package.mk'.  Stop.
<larsc> just `package/leafpad/compile V=99`
<larsc> and from the openwrt base dir
<xakh> ok
<xakh> hm.
<xakh> should I move leafpad inside my main openwrt directory (openwrt-sburst) or keep it out of that directory, and just in my openwrt folder?
<larsc> keep it where it is
<larsc> `cd  ~/openwrt; make package/leafpad/compile V=99`
<urandom_> oh "make -r world: build failed. " meh :(
<xakh> ok
<xakh> I'mma go to the bathroom
<xakh> brb
<urandom_> it was compiling bison, isnt there a already compiled toolchain?
<xakh> compiling bison?
<urandom_> while compiling the toolchain with make
<xakh> well, I compiled my system but it gave that error
<urandom_> what error?
<xakh> ERROR: please fix target/linux/mx2/Makefile
<urandom_> oh this compiling toolchain thing can take a while... ah und xakh i get the same error so dont worry
<xakh> urandom_: Ping
<xakh> or is it
<xakh> urandom_: ping
<urandom_> pong
<xakh> or does it not matter
<xakh> ah
<xakh> there ya are.
<xakh> I got side tracked there.
<xakh> so you get the same error I did?
<urandom_> yeah
<xakh> did it still work for you?
<urandom_> i have run out of disc space while compiling :/ but dont think you have to care about the error
<xakh> well nothing seems to be happening
<urandom_> xakh what are you doing now? you have succesfully compiled your toolchain and now want to compile an app or what?
<xakh> I compiled my toolchain a while ago
<xakh> it took about an hour and gave that error
<xakh> now I'm trying to figure out how to make the actual package
<urandom_> are you using the howto from tuxbrain?
<xakh> I lost the link
<xakh> and I get lost easily
<xakh> hey, if you're out of space
<xakh> maybe I could help you out, if you teach me how to build this stuff
<xakh> I'll compile any of the stuff you need
<xakh> provided it's doable
<xakh> (so no flash or anything :P)
<urandom_> well just ask me if you dont understand something but i think the howto is really good
<xakh> ok
<nebajoth> howto to do what?
<nebajoth> sorry, I just got here
<nebajoth> I hate it when people do this
<nebajoth> but I like howtos
<urandom_> you have to do the Creating a Package with OpenWRT part now ;) xakh
<xakh> well, I have a makefile made
<nebajoth> ah yes
<nebajoth> openwrt package preparation
<xakh> and I made a myfeed
<nebajoth> I definitely need to look at that
<xakh> and I made a makefilw
<urandom_> so you need to add it to feeds.conf
<xakh> *makefile
<xakh> did that
<xakh> is it supposed to be called feeds.conf.default? that's what mine calls it
<urandom_> ah thats the problem, no feeds.conf
<urandom_> you should copy it, rename to feeds.conf and edit it
<xakh> well, I already made the necessary modifications in it
<urandom_> good so just cp and rename
<xakh> where do I put it?
<xakh> it was just in the base folder of openwrt-xburst
<xakh> do I have to put it somewhere else?
<urandom_> i dont think so, try it
<xakh> okay, where's it supposed to show up? in the openwrt menu?
<urandom_> in the menuconfig thing i think
<xakh> okat
<xakh> *okay
<xakh> nothing there
<xakh> is there something wrong with my makefile maybe?
<urandom_> well it should be there anyway i think
<urandom_> what does make package/leafpad/compile V=99 say?
<xakh> that's what it looks like
<xakh> this is the makefile
<urandom_> have you tryed compiling something other? so that we know you toolchain works and all
<xakh> nope
<xakh> I dunno what else to compile
<urandom_> gnuchess from the howto or some package that was ported to openwrt
<xakh> I'm gonna need a good makefile to do that
<urandom_> they come with a makefile
<xakh> not that makefile
<xakh> have you read the openwrt guide to packages?
<xakh> there's a separate makefile
<urandom_> i was talking about the separate makefile
<urandom_> units should be doable i think
<xakh> ok
<xakh> well, point me to something with a makefile
<xakh> I meant point me to something to compile
<urandom_> well it is? you have the makefile for units so you can compile it
<xakh> I'm copying the file
<xakh> and it still fails
<urandom_> oh uhmm: someone else has an idea?
<urandom_> you have selected xburst in make menuconfig?
<xakh> yup
<urandom_> wiki says "when you run make menuconfig, select some useful looking unselected package and make it an 'M', and make sure you can compile/install it" so try this
<xakh> ???
<xakh> so try to install an app from inside the menu, you mean?
<urandom_> run menuconfig
<urandom_> yeah
<xakh> so I hit M
<xakh> how do I make it....
<xakh> like, go?
<urandom_> it has to have an <M> in the list and then just exit und save and type make
<xakh> so I have to make again?
<xakh> *groans*
<urandom_> it will rebuild everything and the package yeah :P
<xakh> that took forever last time
<xakh> will it take that long this time?
<urandom_> it will, wait
<xakh> hmm
<urandom_> or
<urandom_> you could search for a package already includet and do the make package/gnuchess/compile V=99 stuff
<xakh> >:(
<xakh> I already started make
<urandom_> i remember it tool only half an hour for you
<urandom_> or wasnt that you?
<xakh> it took a bit longer
<xakh> but it's done now
<xakh> :O
<xakh> but it still says "m" next to the package I added
<xakh> is it supposed to change?
<urandom_> dont think so
<xakh> okay then.
<xakh> so what now?
<urandom_> so we know you can compile shit
<xakh> woot.
<urandom_> you could just edit the makefile of the app you just compiled to the leafpad one and try again
<xakh> augh have headache.
<urandom_> yeah cross compiling sucks
<urandom_> ah shit i know what we forgot
<urandom_> have you done /scripts/feeds update and all?
<xakh> yeah
<xakh> do I need to do it again?
<urandom_> when you changed feeds.conf.default to feeds.conf have you done it again?
<xakh> no I didn't
<urandom_> so thats the problem
<xakh> what's the command I need?
<urandom_> ./scripts/feeds update
<urandom_> ./scripts/feeds install -p mutroxports
<urandom_> mutroxports should be changed to you dir
<xakh> package,
<xakh> package/leafpad?
<xakh> leafpad?
<xakh> which directory?
<xakh> sorry, confused
<urandom_> no problem, give me your path to your leafpad makefile and i will tell
<xakh> alright
<xakh> it's /home/xakh/openwrt/package/leafpad
<urandom_> so leafpad it is
<xakh> so I say .scripts/feed install -p leafpad?
<urandom_> yeah
<xakh> okay
<xakh> it did a buncha stuff
<xakh> then where do I look for it?
<urandom_> now leafpad should be in menuconfig
<urandom_> you might also need to do make package/symlinks but first look
<xakh> nothing
<xakh> I'm going to try remaking
<urandom_> make package/symlinks
<xakh> and I'm going to go get something to drink, help clear my head
<urandom_> just do make package/symlinks first
<urandom_> and look again
<urandom_> and yeah drinking might help
<xakh> unfortunately
<xakh> I'm in the States
<xakh> I can't get anything alcoholic. ._.
<xakh> just going to get a massive frozen drink and a hot dog or something.
<xakh> actually, screw that, I
<xakh> I'm gonna go get tacos.
<xakh> see you dudes later.
<urandom_> ok, see you
<xakh> back
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: [u-boot-xburst] update to version 201003 http://qi-hw.com/p/openwrt-xburst/b0a1a39
<urandom_> wb, it is already morning here so i will have to get some sleep soon
<urandom_> xakh have you tryed make package/symlinks?
<xakh> nope
<xakh> oh, it said make world failed
<xakh> I hit space on all the main options in the menuconfig
<xakh> so that might be why
<xakh> I'm running it again with V=99