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<houkime> what's with p2401?
<houkime> it needs to go to bb-xm s-video but it doesn't seem like it has any direct b2b for that
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<houkime> so it will be sth like hacky connection where you have a normal cable on vbbx-m side and 2 pins on neo900 side?
<houkime> *bb-xm
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<Joerg-Neo900> http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/v2.pdf#14 "4.11 TV output"
<Joerg-Neo900> yes
<Joerg-Neo900> houkime: ^^^
<Joerg-Neo900> was this a comprehensive answer to your question?
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<houkime> ok
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<houkime> p2501 - pin1 in the wrong place. Looks like fp needs to be mirrored.
<houkime> it is facing downwards correctly, but in order to connect pin1 to pin1 on bb-xm in needs to be mirrired
<houkime> however it is quite hard totell whether it was already countered on the pin assignment level or not
<houkime> *to tell
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<houkime> rechecked using bbxm System reference manual.
<houkime> yep, pin1 as it is assigned right now should go to pin1
<houkime> of bbxm
<houkime> so connector should be mirrored for this to happen
<houkime> or has its pins reassigned
<houkime> what is better?
<houkime> *should have pins reassigned
<houkime> reassigning signals is a sch tweaking and renumbering pins is a fp tweaking (which breaks standard numbering scheme btw)
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<Joerg-Neo900> please no renumbering of pins. pin1 of a connector is same on both side F and M connector half
<Joerg-Neo900> however we'll follow manuf's numbering even if it breaks the "pin1 == pin1" pragma
<Joerg-Neo900> if a female connector pin1 goes to anything that's not pin1 on the male connector counterpart, it needs a varbatim note on that nasty fact in schematics
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<Joerg-Neo900> also possible (made up example): "UPPER_J42-F:pin1 (== Murata_X666-20B2B-Male:pin1) == BB-xM_J17:pin28" (BB_xM not using the Murata component pin numbers and instead inventing their own numbering)
<houkime> shouldn't default header numbering mirror that of a female?
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<houkime> the manuf doesn't really say anything about this in the datacheet
<houkime> *datasheet
<houkime> it's not a chiral mezzanine, just a 2-row stacker
<houkime> i'm just thinking now where this numbering even came from initially
<houkime> looks like one just took a female socket of bb-xm and used it as a header.
<houkime> hmm... this numbering is from a default-ish "header' fp library. hmm...
<houkime> ok. rechecking internets.
<houkime> yes, females and male should be mirrored.
<houkime> and the header pin numbers are correct
<houkime> so logically this means that bb-xm indeed uses non-standard pin numbering
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<houkime> need to notice though that camera connector is meant to be connected by right-angle connectors so that camera sticks
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<houkime> thereby a conclusion: signals should be reassigned and note should be left in the sch about this.
<houkime> this also means that other bb-xm connections also need careful rechecking
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<houkime> looks like mcbsp ausio P2502 refers to "P18" in sch for some reason while in SRM (from github) it is p10
<houkime> man, bb-xm is so old.
<houkime> even git manual is from 2012
<houkime> and still worth more than 100$. My pc motherboard is 2-fold cheaper (around 50$) and it can do all ryzens.
<houkime> hmm... so usual dev time for this kind of thing is around 2 years, as it seems. Neo900 needs to hurry up.
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<houkime> checked mcbsp audio connector 2502. same thing. chirality gets screwed.
<houkime> seems very common through the board. first Bob itself was wrong-mirrored, then bob connectors weren't matching, now bb-xm stuff.
<houkime> geometry really needs careful consideration. What i can't understand is why bob-xm numbers it's connector pins in such a way.
<houkime> *ist
<houkime> *its
<houkime> and P2302 is ok all of a sudden. BeagleBoard, seriously? WHY did you do this?
<houkime> whatever. Writing an issue for neo900, and will fix it tomorrow.
<houkime> really, most of the time is not going to work itself but to detecting and cleaning all kinds of bs.
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<houkime> resting.