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<Joerg-Neo900> negotiations with layouter ongoing
<Joerg-Neo900> split the job to make a device between two persons and it becomes 3 times the complexity by the mere splitting
<Joerg-Neo900> plus haggling on top, for the icing
<ravelo> yay
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<enyc> Joerg-Neo900: what abouet the risks of error in layout / problem ?
<atk> I think that's the point of the prototype
<atk> errors in layout should be small, so that a careful use of a razor blade and a thin copper wire could probably fix them.
<enyc> atk: no t so much under BGA chip =)
<enyc> but still, wonder how number of people affects the risk
<atk> I would hope two people weren't asked to route one BGA chip
<ravelo> afaik in proto v2 is no BGA yet
<wpwrak> there are a few, but only small ones. no monsters like the omap
<enyc> wpwrak: whats' then happening about OMAP+PoP soldering issues ?
<atk> as Joerg-Neo900 said, right now there is no issue, at least not for Neo900
<atk> But aside from that, I don't know anything else
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<enyc> so, can a news article be posted on site with what this means, likely potential proto_v2 test time, ... ?
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<ravelo> soldering is simply a matter of doing more tests
<ravelo> so no issue
<ravelo> afaik
<wpwrak> enyc: i don't know. you'd have to ask DocScrutinizer05 if there are any news.
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<Joerg-Neo900> as I already said: negotiations with layouter are more tough or complicated than expected. And regarding PoP soldering: what ravelo said
<Joerg-Neo900> re 'posting on site': I lack the inhouse competence to maintain the website
<Joerg-Neo900> the whole site is a mess with git and dunnowhat, and I have no clue of html, no clue of git, and no clue of dunnowhat
<Joerg-Neo900> and I'm no great writer either
<Joerg-Neo900> takes 30 times as long as you'd expect, since I'm searching minutes for the one right word, and a sentence usually has at least 3 of them
<Joerg-Neo900> that's why I'm posting here in IRC
<Joerg-Neo900> when there's anything newsworthy
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<bleb> Joerg-Neo900, fair enough; thanks for all the great work on this and keeping it going
<DocScrutinizer51> :)
<DocScrutinizer51> some gossip: (space)falcon(ia) has accomplished to build calypso based GSM boards ready to buy. Now we're looking into an option to have a 'FOSS baseband chip' of sorts in No900
<DocScrutinizer51> Neo900*
<DocScrutinizer51> as an option for the hardcore FOSS people
<MonkeyofDoom> cool
<DocScrutinizer51> keep in mind calypso hardly supports GSM EDGE
<DocScrutinizer51> so what you get with calypso is a 3 or *maybe* 4 band GSM with basic GPRS
<DocScrutinizer51> BUT.. you could turn it into a complete (ILLEGAL) nano-BTS, using the freecalypso and Osmocom stuff
<DocScrutinizer51> prolly the smallest IMSI-catcher ever, though notvery useful anymore in an age of UMTS and LTE
* DocScrutinizer51 idly wonders if NSA would provide modem firmware sourcecode and a 7 millions $$$ for a version based on MTK instead calypso ;-)
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<Joerg-Neo900> [quote] Everything seems to work aside from the lack of RF calibration and some strange issue with booting from flash which I'm hoping to debug in the next few weeks [/quote]
<Joerg-Neo900> bote however this device isn't *** approved (for whatever value of ***). At least yet
<Joerg-Neo900> Note*
<Joerg-Neo900> so while odds are probably small to get cought with it (I don't thonk it violates GSM specs in a blatant way) - *IF* you're cought with it, better prepare in advance for the fallout depending on which legislation you're under
<Joerg-Neo900> might be a looong time you can't do what you planned to do
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<Joerg-Neo900> sorry LANG=DE
<Joerg-Neo900> BWAHAHAHA >>on 4 January 2012, the Court of Appeal of England and Wales held that the patent is invalid for obviousness<< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-catcher
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