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<Oksanaa>
What about temperature sensitivity of neo900? How would it fare in a 41°C summer day? Keep in mind that its own heat would keep the phone temperature even higher
<Wizzup>
I wouldn't be too worried about it
<Wizzup>
typical operating temps are much higher
<Oksanaa>
How so? 41 Celsium is not a typical day for human
<wpwrak>
Oksanaa: having a bad El Nino, too ? :)
<Oksanaa>
Well, summer is just beginning in Sydney, but there are already nasty heatwaves sometimes
<wpwrak>
(which is to say: i wouldn't consider a summer that doesn't reach 41 C at some point a proper summer, at least not down here :)
<Wizzup>
Oksanaa: what I said is: 60C is probably still doable operating temp. but wait for the experts to chime in I guess.
<wpwrak>
yup. you have pretty much the same climate as i do in buenos aires
<Oksanaa>
Just, 40+ Celsium ambient, plus direct sunlight, plus its own CPU, and some melting limit might be reached. I am curious as to what would give out first, and how to prevent it
<wpwrak>
the CPU is good up to 90 C (operating temperature). most other chips go to 85 C or such
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<Oksanaa>
Okay... Just, there is a tiny idea of switching off individual, heat-sensitive chips when temperature becomes too high. As in, switched-off-chips are less likely to get permanent damage?
<DocScrutinizer05>
battery is safe up to 60°
<Wizzup>
Oksanaa: unless you put the device in a frying pan I would not be worried
<Wizzup>
leaving it in the bare sun for hours may be a bad idea
<Wizzup>
then again, we fried an egg in the sun on bare stone at OHM2013 ;-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
and I actually seen device (err N900) shutting down in summer in sun when busy with lots of data shuffling
<Oksanaa>
How did it know to switch off? Battery watchdog?
<DocScrutinizer05>
DSME
<DocScrutinizer05>
and yes, battery temperature sensor
<DocScrutinizer05>
*not* the bq27200 chip sensor
<DocScrutinizer05>
rather the NTC on ADC1
<wpwrak>
the chips are rated for storage >> 100 C. e.g., 150 C for the OMAP. by that time, the then liquid plastic should help with cooling, too :)
<Wizzup>
any update on paypal? :)
<Oksanaa>
Okay, would it know not to switch off if Neo900 operates from USB-no-battery in high temperatures?
<Oksanaa>
As in, higher than 60, less than 80?
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: they basically gave us a template again
<Wizzup>
template response you mean?
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes
<wpwrak>
Wizzup: we're just putting the finishing touches to a newsletter about that. executive summary: alas, still not much progress. but we're not giving up just yet.
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<Wizzup>
I really hope it works out, so excited for the neo900 :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
Oksanaa: the battery must not get hotter than 60°C, so complete device should idle or shutdown at higher than 60°
<Oksanaa>
But if it works without battery?
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: I suffer nightmares already
<DocScrutinizer05>
yes
<DocScrutinizer05>
^^^ Oksanaa
<Oksanaa>
On USB or some other supplied power?
<DocScrutinizer05>
except modem which might not
<Wizzup>
DocScrutinizer05: :(
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: we sent another mail to them, hoping they finally understand that we don't do "card presales"
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: and Werner is posting an update to tmo shortly
<Wizzup>
great to see an update
<Wizzup>
maybe making some noise will also help, if they keep not understanding
<DocScrutinizer05>
yeah, I been inacceptably silent during last 6 or so weeks
<Wizzup>
nobody is blaming you
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: noise doesn't help much
<Wizzup>
health goes first
<DocScrutinizer05>
Wizzup: letters of intent from our customers might help
<Wizzup>
(I didn't pay using paypal)
<Wizzup>
not sure if I can help then
<DocScrutinizer05>
prolly not
<DocScrutinizer05>
except maybe stating "this is clearly crowdfunding" on the related tmo thread
<Wizzup>
can do that.
<DocScrutinizer05>
I might pastebin the letter I sent to PP