12:30 <ryyppy> hi!

12:31 <ryyppy> I am trying to work a little bit with cohttp but I have an issue with building conduit... it seems that cstruct is breaking during make install and I wondered if anyone is experiencing the same issue?

12:32 <ryyppy> opam 1.2.2 // ocaml 4.04.0 // `opam install cohttp`

19:45 <reynir> I kind of said I would talk a bit about Mirage at a so called 'code night' meetup on thursday. Any suggestions on what I can talk about / show? :-)

19:47 <yomimono> reynir: how much time do you have and how would you describe the audience? :)

19:47 <yomimono> depending on whether they have much systems background you can easily spend 20 minutes saying what a unikernel/library OS is and why it's interesting, without any time for a demo or why OCaml/MirageOS in particular are interesting

19:48 <yomimono> which might be OK depending on their interests and yours :)

19:48 <yomimono> conversely you can spend 20 minutes talking about why systems programming in OCaml is something anyone would ever want to do, without talking about library OSes or unikernels at all

19:49 <yomimono> IME trying to talk about all of that in 30 minutes to a general audience is a recipe for glazed expressions and questions that indicate a lot of confusion

19:50 <reynir> The audience knows how to program to varying degrees. I'm guessing about none of them know what OCaml is.

19:51 <reynir> It's pretty informal, about 10 people. I guess I can talk for how long I want to, but I'd like to keep it short (20 mins?) mainly because I hate talking :D

19:51 <Drup> make a demo ? :D

19:52 <reynir> Yea, a demo would be cool

19:54 <yomimono> demos are great! if that's what you want to do for a programmer audience, my suggestion is to quickly talk about all of the stuff that's normally required to run an application -- they may not be used to thinking about all of this explicitly, and if you then talk about building unikernels, it can be difficult to follow *why* you just did all of that stuff and what's cool about what you got at the end of it

19:54 <yomimono> the http(s) example from mirage-skeleton is pretty relateable, so I have demo'd building that several times

19:57 <yomimono> hannes has done a lot of demos too and probably has some good, different ideas :D

20:00 <Drup> (anil has very good slide to motivate unikernels)

22:26 <hannes> I suspect this recorded video is the shortest I got to with unikernels ;P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTtI8hpR7hQ

22:27 <hannes> (didn't watch it in a while, unclear what I tried to express there, but IIRC one of the best talks I gave so far)