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<willmore> Wizzup, what's an fSD?
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<willmore> I'm torturing my OpiZ with cpuminer. :) it's doing very well with the stress test. I have a current monitor on it. It idles just north of 0.10A. Occasional peaks to 0.20A. With cpuminer starting--cold system--it drew almost 0.50A.
<willmore> But, as the SoC got hotter and the clocks slowed things down, current fell with clocks.
<willmore> At 912MHz, it's getting 1.5KH/s Down from the peak of 1.81KH/s when it was cold.
<willmore> This is with no heatsinking, nor airflow. Wifi instead of wired.
<willmore> 67-66 degrees.
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<willmore> A little airflow--no heatsink--drops temps to 61-60 and clocks come up full. That's pretty impressive for a tiny little board.
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<jrg> I should try it in my opi+2e
<willmore> jrg, give it a shot.
<willmore> armbianmonitor -p;minerd --benchmark
<willmore> KotCzarny, that table of allwinner boards has an error. The eMMC value for the Orange Pi PC 2 says "1GB" but it has no eMMC. Do I fix that on that page or is that generated from some other source?
<willmore> I think there are other bugs. Some of the SoC lines are redlinks or not even links at all.
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<dgp> willmore: you're talking about the schematic?
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<wens> willmore: some of the newer SoCs don't have wiki pages
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<miasma> montjoie: if it's ok to include the crypto status table to the wiki, there's a version here https://linux-sunxi.org/User:Miasma/cryptotable
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<MoeIcenowy> jernej: A64 uses TCON1 for HDMI?
<MoeIcenowy> Wizzup: can you run ls /dev/block on your stock android?
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: now I met HDMI phy problem :-(
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<KotCzarny> willmore: it's fully manual work, so go ahead
<miasma> i already fixed it :)
<miasma> would it make sense to have a separate page for u-boot/kernel version histories or just cut off really old stuff. e.g. on the u-boot page the version history is already about half of the length of the whole article
<KotCzarny> any point to run old uboot?
<KotCzarny> my guess is situation is similar as with old kernels
<miasma> i think that's another topic. the articles are just getting quite long and the main content is a bit hidden behind the long listing
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<KotCzarny> yeah, but for some devices legacy docs are still useful
<miasma> my suggestion was to move the listing to a uboot/history-subarticle
<miasma> with few more releases 90% of the article content is just version history :)
<KotCzarny> maybe just similar table as for the kernel?
<KotCzarny> with support described per version/soc
<miasma> possibly. are you kc in the wiki? i saw some unfilled tables there on the user page
<KotCzarny> hmm?
<miasma> no it was some other guy
<miasma> there were lots of 'status' tables on the user page
<miasma> anyway i'm not sure what the table should contain. there are so many different drivers that need to be covered
<miasma> and creating/modifying tables for mediawiki is a pita :)
<KotCzarny> hmm, for example, support for: sdcard/mmc, nand(he he), network(wired, wifi?), usb
<KotCzarny> maybe hdmi/display too
<KotCzarny> gpio, spi?
<miasma> i can collect a list from the items listed so far, but it might not include everything
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<KotCzarny> its a wiki, if anything notices anything missing he/she can add it, but having at least starting point done makes it easier
<miasma> KotCzarny: it also lists stuff like 'XYZ rewrite'. should there by a note about broken functionality in older versions
<miasma> let's say the table lists gpio support for platform X since kernel Y. now the next uboot has gpio fixes. there might be multiple fixes in several coming versions :-/
<KotCzarny> then you can add it in the notes, or just bump the version supported since
<miasma> ok, let's see. i'll generate an initial version then
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<KotCzarny> also, while you are playing with the wiki, maybe you can add a redirect for uboot->u-boot
<KotCzarny> or even rename u-boot page into u-boot-legacy and Mainline U-Boot -> u-boot
<KotCzarny> (but you should consult otherfolks in that regard)
<KotCzarny> well, u-boot -> u-boot-sunxi
<wens> you could split it out into a U-boot Mainlining Effort page?
<wens> which would be a changelog + todo list?
<KotCzarny> +status table
<Wizzup> willmore: that is what I was asking as well
<Wizzup> MoeIcenowy: can do that, later today
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<dgp> Has anyone used JTAG on the H2/H3?
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<montjoie> miasma: where are my beautilfull colors ?
<miasma> montjoie: on the todo list :)
<miasma> montjoie: but it's ok to copy it to the wiki?
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<montjoie> where exactly in the wiki ?
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<montjoie> the problem is that it duplicate content
<miasma> so the wiki should only contain original content not available elsewhere?
<KotCzarny> ibethemeans its on some other wiki page
<miasma> hm
<KotCzarny> (and my spacebar is dying)
<miasma> couldn't find yet
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<montjoie> miasma: you could copy it, but dont forget colors:)
<montjoie> igraltist: I still wait for command creating policy for ext4crypt
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<ssvb> I think that it's not a very good idea to spread basic information across too many pages
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<ssvb> oh, that was a legacy U-Boot page, nevermind then :-)
<ssvb> probably it would be a good idea to leave it alone or even eventually delete
<ssvb> miasma: oh, you did it again with the mainline U-Boot - http://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=Mainline_U-Boot&curid=1504&diff=18920&oldid=18912
<ssvb> now I have pretty strong objections and would like to revert your change
<miasma> ssvb: i'm not sure if it's the optimal way to read it, but my goal was to have all u-boot related bits on the same page
<miasma> and further configuration for some feature in other pages
<ssvb> basic U-Boot configuration and compilation is very simple, it makes zero sense to spread it across multiple pages
<miasma> ssvb: feel free to organize it better. I just found it terribly hard to keep track of all the bits and there already was lots of redundant configs for u-boot through the wiki
<ssvb> what exactly was hard for you?
<ssvb> there is one page and it provides step by step instructions
<miasma> ssvb: ok, in the current form, the mainline article does that
<miasma> ssvb: but then, you might want to boot from usb, ethernet (nfs, fel, pxe etc.), nand, spi, emmc. it soon becomes quite complex
<KotCzarny> um
<KotCzarny> then move tl;dr section to the top
<KotCzarny> and leave detailed info further in the page
<ssvb> miasma: what was the purpose of removing the information about the possibility to boot from usb, ethernet (nfs, fel, pxe etc.), nand, spi, emmc?
<ssvb> miasma: why do the users need to go to another page to find this out?
<miasma> ssvb: it's not removed. i thought about collecting it to the same page and link to that from articles describing the technologies
<ssvb> you are forcing the users to do more clicks on the links and have more pages open simultaneously
<miasma> well.. the original goal was to have them click less
<ssvb> congratulations, you have achieved exactly the opposite :-)
<miasma> i could move them back to the uboot article, but it's getting quite long
<ssvb> http://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=Mainline_U-Boot&curid=1504&diff=18920&oldid=18912 is removing very little text, but eliminates the list of possible boot media options (you need another page to find this out), removes the information about booting legacy kernels and configuring LCD
<miasma> ok so i'll move them back to the uboot page
<miasma> ssvb: the confusing part there is, it describes the configuration for both mainline and legacy uboot/kernels, but the page is about mainline u-boot
<ssvb> it would be great if you actually reported your problem and tried to discuss it rather than making major changes
<ssvb> the mainline U-Boot can boot legacy 3.4 kernels, what is not clear about this?
<miasma> ok. so what about the spi/nand boot options, should they be listed on the same article
<miasma> or on their own pages
<KotCzarny> imo same page
<miasma> currently I didn't find any u-boot related configurations for them on the respective pages
<miasma> ok, so i'll fix that
<miasma> ssvb: what about the difference in bootm. the legacy article uses the value 0x48000000 and the mainline uboot article 0x42000000. is that hard coded to uboot?
<ssvb> this value is more or less arbitrary and both are likely fine
<ssvb> whatever was on the mainline U-Boot page, was providing a known good configuration
<ssvb> if you want to pick different addresses, be sure to test them first
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<miasma> ssvb: ok. i didn't change it. there was this configuration for legacy kernels both on the old and new uboot page. the instructions were basically the same. the address was the only difference
<ssvb> if you don't understand something, then please ask first and edit later
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<MoeIcenowy> mripard: if I want to add a simplefb node to H3
<MoeIcenowy> how should I describe the pipeline?
<MoeIcenowy> I used "de0-lcd0-hdmi" now
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<miasma> ssvb: I will. My intention was not to delete any information or modify anything especially without testing. I just thought that there might be some duplication of effort when documenting some configuration for both old and new uboot. obviously having a new page just for configuration leads to more clicking. i just feared that the main article is getting too long. it's totally ok for me to leave it that way. I was originally planning to extend and ...
<miasma> ... update the articles on netboot and thought that with all those additions the main uboot page would become quite tiresome to read without linking to other articles
<ssvb> the old uboot is completely irrelevant
<KotCzarny> ssvb, is uboot-sunxi relevant or mostly mainlined?
<ssvb> we already have some warning banners at these pages
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<ssvb> but if this is not enough, then it might be best to delete them
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<ssvb> KotCzarny: uboot-sunxi is an old unsupported version of u-boot
<ssvb> KotCzarny: yes, some years ago it was relevant
<KotCzarny> then it would be best to rename u-boot page to u-boot-legacy and add redirect for u-boot -> u-boot-mainline
<KotCzarny> also to add redirect uboot->u-boot
<ssvb> whatever
<KotCzarny> because right now searching for 'uboot' returns wrong results
<MoeIcenowy> yes, maybe tag everything -sunxi as legacy is right :-)
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<MoeIcenowy> tkaiser: will you try some experimental H3 HDMI mainline drivers for armbian?
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: we can look at it on case by case basis, just the -sunxi suffix in the name does not mean anything
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<MoeIcenowy> I mean the old U-Boot 2011.09 and Linux 3.4 guys
<MoeIcenowy> not simply the suffix :-)
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<miasma> KotCzarny: the note says "u-boot-sunxi fork. It is only useful for the devices, which are still not supported by the Mainline U-Boot.". does that still include some devices that are not supported by newer u-boot versions?
<MoeIcenowy> I think there must be some devices which do not have anyone to port it :-)
<miasma> ok
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<ssvb> miasma: who knows? there may be one or two abandoned devices
<KotCzarny> isnt it about socs and not devices? is there any device that needs special treatment ?
<ssvb> KotCzarny: each device needs its own defconfig
<ssvb> and somebody has to provide it
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<KotCzarny> uhum
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<MoeIcenowy> some devices may use rare features and needs special treatment.
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<Wizzup> MoeIcenowy: ls /dev/block gives me perm denied, so I guess I'll first need to root the darn thing.
<KotCzarny> is there /proc/sunxi_rootmethwatever ? ;)
<Wizzup> /sys/block gives this: http://sprunge.us/jZEi
<Wizzup> KotCzarny: tried that, didn't work (the debug file)
<Wizzup> and /proc/partitions: http://sprunge.us/QKUd
<Wizzup> MoeIcenowy: ^^
<Wizzup> so that indeed, to me, looks like it's 16GB mmc
<MoeIcenowy> Wizzup: yes it's eMMC.
<MoeIcenowy> not fSD...
<MoeIcenowy> (fSD do not have boot partitions
<KotCzarny> what is fSD ?
<MoeIcenowy> Foresee also makes eMMCs...
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: SD Card in the size form of eMMC
<MoeIcenowy> there's also tSD, which is SD Card in the package of NAND :-)
<KotCzarny> o.O
<MoeIcenowy> lots of Allwinner boards will work when removes the NAND and solder a tSD
<MoeIcenowy> fSD and tSD are all made by Foresee
<KotCzarny> what does f and t stand for?
<MoeIcenowy> f is stand for Foresee
<MoeIcenowy> and t is stand for TSOP (the package
<KotCzarny> that clears confusion, a bit
<KotCzarny> :)
<MoeIcenowy> seems that the new etSD is eMMC-compatible chips in TSOP
<Wizzup> MoeIcenowy: nice, that's likely easy for mainline then
<MoeIcenowy> I have saw some boards by CubieTech which has a tSD
<MoeIcenowy> s/saw/seen
<MoeIcenowy> but I forgot which board it is
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<MoeIcenowy> Wizzup: yes, tSD is better on mainline than NAND :-)
<MoeIcenowy> but more and more new devices are directly using eMMC...
<MoeIcenowy> lots of aw devices still use Foresee eMMCs, as they
<MoeIcenowy> they're cheap
<MoeIcenowy> (but recently I got an A33 tablet with Hynix eMMC
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<wens> it's actually easy to differentiate, just look at dmesg
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<wens> uh, i forgot which of my boards used it
<ldearquer> I am trying to read uboot.bin from my A33 tablet, but when copying and mounting nanda on my local machine, it comes up with no boot binaries!
<ldearquer> The files I can see are
<MoeIcenowy> ldearquer: uboot.bin?
<ldearquer> nope!
<ldearquer> can I paste a tree output here?
<ldearquer> or is it too noisy?
<MoeIcenowy> nope
<MoeIcenowy> please go to a pastebin
<ldearquer> ok
<buZz> hastebin.com
<ldearquer> This is my nanda
<ldearquer> data.notfirstrun is empty
<MoeIcenowy> do you want a script.bin?
<MoeIcenowy> if you do, please dd :-(
<ldearquer> dd if=/dev/block/nanda?
<MoeIcenowy> nope
<ldearquer> on the tablet?
<MoeIcenowy> the script.bin is now unavailable on the nanda.
<MoeIcenowy> it's now in invisible area of nand.
<ldearquer> Ok, i thought so
<ldearquer> same with uboot.bin, isn't it?
<MoeIcenowy> why do you want uboot.bin?
<MoeIcenowy> uboot.bin is not accessible inside Linux, no wonder which version.
<ldearquer> nothing now, just curiosity, only script.bin, because no test point gets me a serial port
<MoeIcenowy> on A33 boards, the stock uboot uses MicroSD breakout as debugging output
<MoeIcenowy> you can give up for a dedicated serial :-(
<MoeIcenowy> for script.bin, dd if=/dev/mem of=/sdcard/script.bin bs=1 count=262144 skip=1124073472
<ldearquer> thanks a lot for saving me ages of trial and error then! :)
<ldearquer> Does it need to be enabled on script.bin?
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<MoeIcenowy> you have no way to change script.bin on A33
<MoeIcenowy> except have a PheonixSuit image, and modify it
<paulk-collins> anyone got a known to work tar cmdline to pack a rootfs?
<ldearquer> I probed the wires into the sd card socket, but saw nothing...
<MoeIcenowy> try to reboot your device
<ldearquer> can't i dd from nand, modify and dd again into nand?
<silviop> By the way , my A33 tablet was fake RAM android and chip ram marking reports 1Gb but it real have only 512Mb !!! So no bug only cinese hardware!!
<ldearquer> oh, I see, /dev/mem
<KotCzarny> silviop: lol, so my wild guess was right
<KotCzarny> you can add that info to wiki now
<ldearquer> MoeIcenowy: so how do you enable serial?
<silviop> Yes i daa info to wiky with RED mark!!
<silviop> Hans de Goedes says that does not exist q8 form factor tablet with 1Gb of ram!!
<MoeIcenowy> I do have an A33 tablet with 1GB ram
<MoeIcenowy> but it's not Q8.
<MoeIcenowy> It's a iPad-like tablet
<silviop> But i feel you tablet in not 35¬ shipped !!
<MoeIcenowy> you mean the price in dollar?
<silviop> Euros
<KotCzarny> they say you get what you pay for
<MoeIcenowy> I got it for ¥460 CN, without any shippment (as I bought it from Shenzhen
<miasma> does q8 mean it's 8" in size?
<jelle> miasma: I think q8 means the casing
<silviop> q8 means 7" 19:9
<miasma> ok
<silviop> 16:9
<silviop> i use q8 as room interface for domotic
<MoeIcenowy> q8 is fistly a casing form of A13 tablets
<silviop> i have five A13 and two A33
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<miasma> i wouldn't be surprised if a 35eur tablet doesn't come with 1GB RAM
<MoeIcenowy> but now some Q8 devices slightly broke the casing rules
<silviop> the problem is that not exist a 40-45¬ 1Gb q8
<MoeIcenowy> high-end aw vendors design their own models
<MoeIcenowy> and won't use the public model of Q8
<KotCzarny> so it was a reference design from aw?
<MoeIcenowy> e.g. Onda
<MoeIcenowy> Q8 maybe is not created by aw
<MoeIcenowy> but at least it's a common design
<silviop> i think that in fall 2016 1Gb ram and android 5.1 is very low end design
<MoeIcenowy> to be honest in Shenzhen one can easily get another's design :-)
<miasma> silviop: sure, but if you also had to pay VAT, the price is indeed very low
<MoeIcenowy> In the world of A33, 1GB is high-end ;-)
<KotCzarny> :)
<KotCzarny> in the world of aw socs
<MoeIcenowy> not for all aw socs
<silviop> in '80 handheld electronic calculators are quite expensive but diffused, in '90 they are gifted (during euro transition some government gift euro converter that is electronic calculator), low end tablet way is the same
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<ssvb> silviop: do you have a picture of these RAM chips?
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<silviop> i put tablet in sunxi wiki
<silviop> et_q8_v2.0
<ssvb> just deciphering the dram chip markings is not always easy
<silviop> they are fake too i suppose
<ssvb> you may have either one x16 chip, or two x8 chips
<KotCzarny> is it me or thing overheats a bit in the lower left part?
<KotCzarny> or was it your desolder job?
<silviop> No this tablet is opened take pictures and reclosed , but work well (with 512Mb)
<silviop> solder wifi cable is quite difficult
<silviop> i suppose is done by hand
<MoeIcenowy> We should consider what applications are acceptable for 512MB RAM...
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: one tab browser ;)
<jelle> MoeIcenowy: not compiling some rust project :p
<KotCzarny> and movie player
<MoeIcenowy> I now uses my tablet to play Aiserlot
<MoeIcenowy> (the GNOME game) ;-)
<silviop> with xubuntu 16.04 is quit slow bu acceptable
<silviop> the problem is that only unity is think for touch
<silviop> but unity is slower than xfce
<silviop> dpi setting is a nightmare in xfce
<MoeIcenowy> nope nothing is really think for touch
<KotCzarny> just wait for maemo to be ported fully to linux
<MoeIcenowy> except we wait for freemangordon's hildon-desktop
<KotCzarny> then we will have touch friendly linux
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<silviop> i think that X11 is not think for touch/low resources and desktop manager is a consequence
<KotCzarny> just wait few weeks
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<ssvb> silviop: are you really sure that it is a fake ram? how much ram is actually available in android?
<zoobab> @silviop simplefb can run some wayland?
<ldearquer> This is the script.bin (decompiled) for my tablet: http://hastebin.com/obagetagim.ini
<silviop> CPU-z show 911 Mb
<silviop> /proc/meminfo MemTotal 933328Kb
<silviop> and android settings show 217+641.
<silviop> but
<silviop> free give 409040 (-m 399).
<silviop> And if i use an android app like "fill ram memory" it closed by os near 500Mb fill memory
<MoeIcenowy> silviop: it's really fake ram.
<ldearquer> Just to confirm, does it mean I won't be able to see uboot/kernel output through serial? uart0 is disabled (and cmdline shows console=ttyS0,115200). No /dev/ttyS0, obviously...
<MoeIcenowy> ldearquer: yes
<MoeIcenowy> what do you want to do?
<ldearquer> ...only /dev/ttyS1 exists, which is consitent to the script.bin
<ldearquer> boot form USB
<ldearquer> but I need serial
<MoeIcenowy> I think the ttyS1 is used for bluetooth
<ldearquer> to see what happens
<MoeIcenowy> what means "boot from USB" ?
<ldearquer> FEL
<MoeIcenowy> mainline guys?
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<ldearquer> sorry, don't understand what you mean :(
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<ldearquer> I'd like to run sunxi-fel uboot, but wanted to make sure first I could read from serial
<MoeIcenowy> what do you want to boot from USB?
<MoeIcenowy> mainline U-Boot?
<ldearquer> ok, mmm, not necessarily, haven't got that far yet. I am following the wiki, and I can enable FEL mode, but before downloading anything, wanted to see if I could read serial
<MoeIcenowy> do not think about serial on A33
<MoeIcenowy> please
<MoeIcenowy> A33 has now U-Boot LCD support
<ldearquer> But I am seeing I won't be able with the factory sfotware in it
<MoeIcenowy> (except your board uses MIPI DSI LCD)
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<MoeIcenowy> sunxi-fel cannot even boot legacy U-Boot/kernel
<ldearquer> Phew, that's a lot of things...
<MoeIcenowy> forgot serial first
<ldearquer> ok
<ldearquer> so I'll be seeing UBOOT otuput on the LCD?
<MoeIcenowy> on A33 and Mainline U-Boot, yes
<MoeIcenowy> Do not try to hack any factory guys
<ldearquer> ok
<ssvb> silviop: but I guess Android also needs some amount of RAM for itself, you can probably try to read from /dev/mem and compare data at 0x40000000 and 0x60000000?
<ldearquer> and what do you mean with legacy uboot/kernel?
<MoeIcenowy> legacy u-boot = u-boot 2011.06, legacy kernel = linux 3.4
<MoeIcenowy> s/.06/.09
<ldearquer> right, so I need to go mainline with both then?
<MoeIcenowy> yes
<ldearquer> Ok
<ldearquer> thanks for that
<ldearquer> one more thing...
<igraltist> montjoie: http://paste.debian.net/899487/
<ldearquer> once I have mainline, what's wrong with enabling serial over sdcard? (sorry for bringin serial back...)
<MoeIcenowy> you must modify a lot of things
<MoeIcenowy> and you will lose the most important device -- mmc0
<ldearquer> But I could get it back just changing a few lines on the device tree file?
<MoeIcenowy> serial cannot be used along with mmc.
<MoeIcenowy> on most A33 tablets
<MoeIcenowy> so if you are not seeing really serious issues on A33, please do not consider to use serial
<ldearquer> ok thanks a lot for all your help :)
<ldearquer> may I ask, how do you know that much? Do you work for allwinner?
<MoeIcenowy> nope, but I have hacked A33 for more than one year ;-)
<jelle> don't think anyone who works for allwinner is here?
<ldearquer> :)
<MoeIcenowy> I think allwinner guys may even have no interest on what we do ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> they only cares provides new SoC capable of Android, then forgot the SoC and go to another
<jelle> probably..
<silviop> ssvb: mem compare is done by mainline uboot that report 512Mb :-( yesterday i loose a day of my life finding a bug in this routine , android can be fooled you ca search in internet about
<ldearquer> so how do the olinuxino guys create their boards?
<KotCzarny> ask them?
<ssvb> silviop: I would still try to do it in Android too, it seems a bit too elaborate to fake it in both the software and the dram chip markings
<MoeIcenowy> ssvb: simply a busybox free can show the problem :-)
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: and what does it report for you?
<ldearquer> KotCzarny: I meant to ask if, with the resources available at linux-sunxi, could someone create a custom A33 board from scracth?
<silviop> where free thak info about memory ? is a syscall or /proc /sys ?
<jelle> silviop: 'free' the linux program
<KotCzarny> folks here are software guys mostly
<ssvb> silviop: maybe run 'busybox free' in the adb shell?
<silviop> i run it in android terminal
<silviop> why do you tihnk adb shell is different ?
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: on an A13 tablet 'busybox free' reports https://gist.github.com/ssvb/8cfc073e4f61bb52be3ab06ac025de80
<MoeIcenowy> ssvb: my newly received A33 tablet shows 480M
<ssvb> silviop: there shouldn't be any difference between the terminal and the adb shell
<MoeIcenowy> the score on the gist is a normal score for A13 tablets ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> as the kernel may occupied a lot ;-)
<silviop> on A13 not mainline is mail that occupy a lot ,in mainline ther is not mail :-)
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: yes, but that's what I mean, how do you get the reliable information out of it?
<silviop> mail=mali
<silviop> from mainline u-boot
<ssvb> aren't you trying to figure out if it is a bug in the mainline u-boot or not?
<silviop> i analyze arch/arm/mach-sunxi/dram_sun8i_a33.c but i'm not very well documented on dram initialization
<silviop> so rank bank row
<silviop> columns
<MoeIcenowy> silviop: on currently mainline solution for mali, cma is used
<jelle> silviop: what does the non-mainline u-boot report?
<MoeIcenowy> and cma can be shared with system memory
<ssvb> silviop: it was just chopped a bit in the mainline u-boot
<silviop> i'm not a firmware programming , i can understand how thinghs work but it require a lot of time for me and the manteiner say that i have e fake q8 and he never see a 1Gb q8
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<MoeIcenowy> if busybox free returns a number lower than 512MB in stock firmware
<MoeIcenowy> you can believe you have really a tablet with 512MB ram
<jelle> silviop: so what does your vendor u-boot report?
<jelle> or is there no detected ram size in there?
<MoeIcenowy> I think there's no
* jelle has no hw atm
<silviop> I don't have sd breakout now , but i suppose that original uboot does not output nothing
<jelle> ohh or solder uart connectors :)
<silviop> i have sdbreakout at office but now i'm at home
<MoeIcenowy> uart breakout is more safe
<ssvb> still the best test is probably to dump data from /dev/mem in android and check if there is anything meaningful there above 512mb
<silviop> i'm going to modify script_extractor to do this!!
<ssvb> if there is some unique data at both 0x40000000 and 0x60000000 physical addresses, then you have 1GB RAM
<silviop> Tomorrow i will update you
<KotCzarny> is adb blocked on a33 or what?
<KotCzarny> simple cat /proc/meminfo would be enough usually
<ssvb> silviop: if you only have 512MB RAM, then it will either wrap around (you will read duplicate data) or it will be empty above 512MB
<silviop> procmeminfo does not give same result than free
<silviop> i suppose that free make system call
<silviop> and not take ram info from /proc
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: btw, mali does not need cma
<ssvb> MoeIcenowy: it has its own mmu
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<MoeIcenowy> ssvb: yes
<silviop> i strace free in my amd64 linux and it take info from /proc/meminfo
<silviop> so busybox free is different from standard free
<MoeIcenowy> cached is acquired from /proc/meminfo, but other numbers are retrieved by "sysinfo" function (or syscall?)
<silviop> i strace busybox free and it call sysinfo
<silviop> sysinfo give back totalram=418856960
<montjoie> igraltist: does not work, clearly some keyctl command is missing
<MoeIcenowy> so it's possible to develop a "Fake RAM detector"
<MoeIcenowy> I do not have android sdk now, otherwise I can consider to make one ;-)
<silviop> can android make a syscall ? I think there is a lot of stuff between
<silviop> android app i say
<MoeIcenowy> Use JNI.
<montjoie> igraltist: like e4crypt add_key -S s:425341754425341754 && e4crypt set_policy 2cd4da5d322b28ac temp/ but that example does not work
<willmore> wens, yep, that was it. I would have sworn I saw an H2+ page, but I must not have. Sorry for the noise.
<willmore> KotCzarny, roger.
<buZz> guys, pocketchip is 49 usd again for cybermundane
<igraltist> montjoie: http://paste.debian.net/899491/
<igraltist> montjoie: i had use this cryptSalt as here
<KotCzarny> igraltist, you should prepare step-by-step instruction if you want help with your use case
<NiteHawk> tuxillo: any news on https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-tools/pull/83 ? i'd like to merge that patch, but that's rather pointless if it doesn't help you...
<igraltist> montjoie: no i stop this i keep my cryptsetup
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<igraltist> montjoie: the problem with e4crypt is that u have to build a tool that store a hash of password and given dir to avoid mistake
<igraltist> because if wrong password is used no warning and files can be shred
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<montjoie> all howto I follow fail for ext4 encryption:(
<igraltist> me too so cleary sign of not using it
<montjoie> but it is strange that anything hit sun4i-ss, since FS encryption use CTS and XTS block mode
<igraltist> but i do some test with and without sun4i-ss and its speed up a bit
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<willmore> buZz, any deals on the plain board?
<buZz> willmore: the 9 usd one? no still 9 usd
<buZz> willmore: deals up top here ; https://getchip.com/pages/store
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<willmore> buZz, thanks.
<dgp> silviop: Android will run statically compiled arm linux binaries just fine if you need to do that
<MoeIcenowy> I'm going to write an A33 tablet hacking guide on my blog...
<KotCzarny> make a link in wiki too
<KotCzarny> or write in both places
<MoeIcenowy> I'm too lazy to make it suitable for a wiki page...
<miasma> let's hope they'll update kernels someday so the phones/tablets could just run docker containers :)
<silviop> i'm trying to crosscompile
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: then write on your user page?
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: after me finishing it, maybe I will port it to my user page
<KotCzarny> :)
<MoeIcenowy> but firstly I will make it on my blogspot
<KotCzarny> i guess copy paste will be enough
<silviop> there is one hardware hack i'm interested , extract USB0 bus from tablet that use SDIO for wifi
<MoeIcenowy> I'm also interested :-)
<MoeIcenowy> but I'm not good at hardware hacking...
<MoeIcenowy> on one of my tablet's board, I saw four points which looks like USB points seen on tablets with USB Wi-Fi
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<willmore> KotCzarny, NiteHawk, not sure who to tell, but the wiki leaks account email info on the password reset page--it will tell wether an email is used by an account or not. Best practice is to give a generic response regardless of finding a valid user, FWIW.
<silviop> in A33 i'm working there in a place on pcb for USB Wifi , the difficult is to understand where get D+ D- (GND and 5V are quite simple to find) , configure D+ and D- as gpio and let them "blink" should be possible
<MoeIcenowy> they are not multiplexed
<KotCzarny> i guess its not that important, and being too tight lipped might be more user unfriendly
<KotCzarny> im not admin though
<MoeIcenowy> but if you got GND and 5V, you can get D+ and D- by the usual USB sequence
<KotCzarny> imo. it would be nice to fix email filter, to actually match '.' in '*@*', right now with noscript anything near @ is obfuscated
<MoeIcenowy> the pin close to Vbus (5V) is D-, the pin close to GND is D+
<silviop> not so simple when yo have a square with 25-64 pad !!!
<silviop> A33 not use classical rtl with four pad
<silviop> rtl-pcb
<MoeIcenowy> do anyone have an A23/33 tablet with USB wifi?
<NiteHawk> Turl, libv: see willmore's remark above
<willmore> Okay, now that I read the column header, the PC 2 entry is fine. It says eMMC/SPI FLASH and the PC 2 does have the 16Mb of SPI flash.
<willmore> Though they advertise it as only 8. Should we reflect the advertised value (since that's what they may change it to in the future) or leave it as the 'what actually ships' value?
<KotCzarny> willmore: if we ever see 8Mb flash
<KotCzarny> on opipc2
<willmore> So, I'll leave it alone.
<KotCzarny> empirical evidence > specs/docs
* willmore nods
<willmore> Leaving it alone. But, on the plus side, I'm logged in and can easily edit other things. ;)
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<tuxillo> NiteHawk: yeah very true!
<tuxillo> NiteHawk: crazy busy weekend
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<MoeIcenowy> silviop: I forgot where can get your board's pic...
<libv> willmore: if that is an issue, then lots of wikis have that issue...
<libv> but let me dig a bit
<willmore> libv, I wouldn't be surprised if lots of wikis have the problem.
<libv> on the other hand, this is not a massive problem
<willmore> Nope, that it is not.
<libv> the email account will get an email anyway, which states, "if this was not your action..."
<willmore> That's why I marked it "FWIW".
<willmore> Yep, if the right person enters the right email, they get the email. If they enter the wrong value, they don't get the email. They'll figure it out. An attacker should get nothing.
<libv> and there might be some people who would like to know which email address it was sent to
<willmore> Might be.
<libv> tying a username to an email address usually is not that hard
<willmore> possibly, but there's no need to make an attackers job easier.
<willmore> If I run 'poweroff' on my Opi Z, is there a way to restart it short of power cycling it?
<libv> well, let me go and reset the password on my wikipedia account and see whether it is done there
<KotCzarny> willmore, buy some relays. ;)
<libv> and if it is the same there, it will not be fixed at linux-sunxi
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<KotCzarny> or add some code for uboot/linux to utilize openrisc core to react on buttons
<KotCzarny> (i was thinking about it, but got sidetracked as usual..)
<libv> and we've got work to do.
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<willmore> thanks for looking into this, libv.
<willmore> KotCzarny, yeah, I was going to ask apraizel.
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<willmore> Do any of the allwinner chips support Quad-SPI or dual SPI?
<willmore> Looks like the anwser is no on the H5 at least.
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<tkaiser> buZz: Also on sale today 'Alpha CHIP 10-pack', that are those with R8M (A13 with DRAM + NAND in a single package showing 300 mW less idle consumption)
<ldearquer> The A33 tablet I am using doesn't seem to have any LCD chip -it looks like LCD it is wired straight to the cpu. Does it mean it uses MIPI?
<buZz> rawr
<ldearquer> Modules disp.ko and lcd.ko loaded
<buZz> ldearquer: i'd assume it uses LVDS
<ldearquer> buZz: is that supported by mainline?
<MoeIcenowy> ldearquer: no LCD chip is usual
<MoeIcenowy> A33 supports multiple LCD protocols internally: RGB, LVDS, MIPI DSI
<buZz> ldearquer: yeah
<ldearquer> nice
<ldearquer> thanks
<MoeIcenowy> and for 1034x600 tablets usually there will be RGB LCDs
<ldearquer> thing is, the tablet is quite new (pcb says 2016-09-01), and I am trying the uboot configuration that fits better
<MoeIcenowy> you can just try q8 defconfig suitable for your resolution
<MoeIcenowy> usually it will work.
<ldearquer> I'll do
<ldearquer> thanks again!
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<ldearquer> 1280x800
<MoeIcenowy> ah-oh
<MoeIcenowy> 1280x800...
<ldearquer> omg
<MoeIcenowy> maybe it's really MIPI DSI...
* buZz doubts it
<ldearquer> f**k
<MoeIcenowy> check your script.fex's [lcd0_para], and tell me the value of lcd_if
<buZz> iirc, A33 doesnt have MIPI, does it?
<MoeIcenowy> I just said "maybe"
<MoeIcenowy> buZz: A33 do have MIPI DSI.
<ldearquer> you can see it, pasted before
<buZz> oo fancy
<ldearquer> default_lcd
<MoeIcenowy> and mainline guys still do not support the internal MIPI DSI controller
<MoeIcenowy> ldearquer: lcd_if = 3, means it's LVDS
<ldearquer> 3
<MoeIcenowy> it can be supported by Mainline U-Boot now, but not still supported by the kernel DRM driver
<ldearquer> cool then!
<MoeIcenowy> but kernel can use simplefb
<ldearquer> are all those values properties that the kernel driver reads, just as with the device tree?
<MoeIcenowy> you should calculate the LCD timing according to your script.fex to U-Boot
<MoeIcenowy> refer to linux-sunxi.org/LCD
<ssvb> willmore: Allwinner chips are supposed to support dual SPI since A31
<ssvb> willmore: why are you asking? interested in faster boot speed?
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<silviop> MoeIcenowy:http://linux-sunxi.org/File:ET_Q8_V2.0-PCB.jpg
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<beeble> wow, not even a manufacturer marking on the ddr
<beeble> inspires my confidence :)
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<silviop> ok first bytes of 4000000 and 6000000 region are exactly the same
<silviop> Chinese manufacturer do very good job
<silviop> to build this fake
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<scelestic> silviop: makes you wonder if they really cut cost this way
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<ssvb> silviop: you can try to check a few more memory pages (with the 512M address difference) to be completely sure
<ssvb> silviop: but this is a little bit depressing, such scam is really evil
<Seppoz> its quite the joke lol
<silviop> i took first 128K , they are the same
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<ssvb> did you buy it from aliexpress or was it some other place?
<hojnikb> silviop: could be that they bought bare ddr3 dies and packaged them themselfs
<silviop> ebay, i start paypal claim
<hojnikb> silviop: what is wrong with it ?
<silviop> they declare 1Gb ram
<silviop> i will ask 4-5¬ discount
<KotCzarny> write it as MB
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<KotCzarny> or GB
<KotCzarny> Gb would mean giga bit
<silviop> 1Gb ram 16Gb rom don't check internal rom i use SD to boot
<KotCzarny> big B
<hojnikb> silviop: i'm guessing its less in reality ?
<Seppoz> yea sak for 40 cents discount
<Seppoz> ahhh italy there you go!!!
<Seppoz> they probably though noone in italy will even know
<hojnikb> thats pretty expensive actually
<ssvb> btw, the https://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SPI_flash#25Q128FV chip (apparently a fake winbond) is also from ebay
<Seppoz> anyone know a cheap wall mountable table/fram with touchscreen?
<hojnikb> with customs and vat thats over 50€
<hojnikb> i got my z3735f 1gb tablet for 40€
<ssvb> I tried to contact the seller nicely, but got no response
<hojnikb> thats with ips display, gps and android 5.0
<hojnikb> and a 3y warranty .)
<silviop> Is not so simple to detect , android is completely fooled , only syscall to sysinfo give right value but all android tools use /proc/meminfo
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<silviop> In italy small packet don't pay customs+vat
<ldearquer> From http://linux-sunxi.org/LCD, lcd_hv_hspw and lcd_hv_vspw should be used for custom UBoot LCD configuration. My script.fex doesnt' have these, but lcd_hspw and lcd_vspw, are they the same?
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<buZz> ldearquer: i highly doubt that
<hojnikb> silviop: isn't everything over 20€ taxed ?
<hojnikb> at least thats the case in slovenia here
<hojnikb> 22€ to be exact
<buZz> it differs per nation
<buZz> 25 euro here for commercial, 30 euro for gifts
<buZz> (in .nl)
<ErwinH> But only if it's ordered from outside of the EU.
<ldearquer> thx
<buZz> ErwinH: yep
<Seppoz> hojnikb: there is no tax within EU
<hojnikb> just checked for italy, its 22€
<ErwinH> It's 22 euro in Holland btw ;) and 45 euro for gifts from person to person.
<hojnikb> if you import from china or outside of eu
<Seppoz> yes then it depends on the goods
<KotCzarny> depends on country, i was happily getting opi+2e with some accessories (~40usd) untaxed
<Seppoz> also if you buy it for you personally you have to add the coutry vat aswell
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<silviop> it's 22 but cinese never declare more than 20$ and customs canno't check every item so the effect is that there is not customs+vat
<KotCzarny> and on luck
<buZz> ErwinH: no, holland does not have seperate custom laws from the entire netherlands
<ldearquer> buZz: apparently yes. (from the script: hs = [1, (lcd0_para["lcd_hv_hspw"] || lcd0_para["lcd_hspw"])].max )
<Seppoz> silviop: customs will ask you to declare the price. so it depends if they believe the sender and yoz
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<Seppoz> silviop: they have a huge databse they can check against
<hojnikb> i had never have this luck. Everything over 22€ was taxed for me, even if declared price was lower
<buZz> ldearquer: thats not what that means
<hojnikb> customs just want a receipt
<hojnikb> so you can't avoid it unless you fake it
<silviop> It's italy friend!! Sun,Sea and no customs+vat from china!!
<Seppoz> yes, but if they dont believe the chinees attached ones they will ask you to send one
<Seppoz> and if you send them the wrong its fraud
<hojnikb> exactly
<miasma> hojnikb: well, people who don't pay the taxes (if they are obliged to) are basically breaking the law
<KotCzarny> miasma: lets not go into politics
<hojnikb> agree
<Seppoz> also they tax is very low
<ldearquer> buZz: I know nothing of Ruby, but I assumed that picked any of them, with maybe priority to the first
<Seppoz> couple percent
<buZz> ldearquer: var.max isnt the same as var
<buZz> oh you're talking about other variables now
<ldearquer> buZz: yup, is about the ORed ones
<scelestic> i dont mind paying tax but an additional 15 euro administration cost is just ridiculous
<buZz> lcd_hv_hspw instead of lcd_vspw
<ssvb> buZz: the .max array method returns the largest value in the array
<miasma> KotCzarny: not sure if abiding by the law or stating the obvious is politics, but ok
<buZz> ssvb: indeed
<buZz> but nothing about that line talks about _vspw
<KotCzarny> miasma: not every law is valid/sincere/honest. and that's politics
<ldearquer> no, the question raised because the web says
<ssvb> buZz: there is a similar line for _vspw too
<ldearquer> Horizontal Sync Length hs lcd_hv_hspw (with a minimum of 1)
<miasma> KotCzarny: i wasn't arguing about the laws
<buZz> ssvb: that still does not make me think they are the same number :D
<ldearquer> but I had no lcd_hv_hspw, only lcd_hspw, but the script shows that they are the same-ish
<buZz> thats not what you asked
<buZz> you said > but lcd_hspw and lcd_vspw, are they the
<buZz> same?
<ssvb> one is just 'horizontal' and another is 'vertical'
<Seppoz> notebooks arent even taxed btw
<ssvb> but essentially they are the same
<ldearquer> err, yeah, the same than lcd_hv_hspw and lcd_hv_vspw
<ldearquer> hehe, "respectively"
<ssvb> KotCzarny: as I mentioned before, I'm a little bit annoyed when these Chinese sellers are lying about the package price even when they don't have to
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<ssvb> KotCzarny: for example, claiming $2 price when the thing actually costs $10
<ErwinH> They probably aren't lying... :)
<KotCzarny> maybe they writing what the item cost to THEM ;)
<KotCzarny> *they're
<jelle> I ordered a replacement touchscreen which had a different chip :( (so I can't work further on the zeitec touchscreen driver)
<ErwinH> That's the price they should be charging, or the price without the shipping costs.
<miasma> i'm a bit annoyed that I need to order the stuff from china. it would make a lot more sense to send a larger shipment overseas so they could package the stuff more efficiently and provide local support
<miasma> but this way the cost goes up 900%
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<KotCzarny> and that's why we buy aw. the cost.
<miasma> they actually sell orange pis locally here, but the price is 39,95 eur for opi pc 2
<miasma> shipping still takes several weeks
<hojnikb> thats a pretty good margin :)
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<hojnikb> i wonder whats the BOM on these boards
<ssvb> when my Cubieboard got stuck at the customs and I needed to "liberate" it, I had to show a printout of the linux-sunxi mailing list post about Cubietech donating free boards to developers :-)
<miasma> hojnikb: that 39,95 doesn't include the 24 tax
<miasma> *24%
<hojnikb> lol
<hojnikb> so its closer to 50€
<hojnikb> thats a nice 100% margain
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<hojnikb> sell one get one free
<miasma> hojnikb: still cheaper than rpi3, 79,90 euros (+ 4,10 shipping)
<hojnikb> masma: wherer do you live ? those are some outrages prices
<hojnikb> thats some serious ripoff
<dgp> shipping from china only takes a week so I don't mind it so much :)
<miasma> hojnikb: both stores have legions of happy customers :)
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<KotCzarny> hojnikb: law of the market, if there are customers, there will be a seller
<hojnikb> i guess you're right
<ssvb> I can imagine being really embarrassed if the customs people decide to stop a small shitty $10 package and the price is declared as $2 on the package sticker
<KotCzarny> many people are afraid to order from anything other than their home country
<hojnikb> thats pretty sad
<hojnikb> but true
<KotCzarny> ssvb: i wouldnt be embarassed if it was unknown to me
<hojnikb> i really wonder what kind of margins is xunlong working with
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<ssvb> I just don't order anything more expensive than 22 euro from aliexpress for exactly this reason, I don't want to participate in breaking any law :-)
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<scelestic> i think of all my aliexpress order as investing in china :P
<KotCzarny> scelestic: even if you buy electronics from local market, you are investing in china
<KotCzarny> :P
<scelestic> KotCzarny: yes but also buying someone a new boat or expensive car ;)
<KotCzarny> yup
<scelestic> 2 euro's for a 3.5mm plug
<KotCzarny> time and peace of mind has a value too
<miasma> ssvb: some stores have an insurance which means that they pay you back if you scan the papers from the customs for them
<miasma> but it won't necessarily cover the whole tax (e.g. dx.com)
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<miasma> tkaiser: sure that's cheaper. the ~80eur device was from the most expensive store I know of :)
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<ffmpeg> hi, how can i totally flush a video decoder? avcodec_flush_buffers seems not enough
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<hramrach> suse built some new ARM images including quite afew for aw devboards: http://download.opensuse.org/ports/armv7hl/distribution/leap/42.2/appliances/
<hramrach> they are like 200M xz images which you unpack to around 2G raw image, copy to a card, and it resizes itself to match card size on first boot
<hramrach> grub chainloaded from u-boot, modular distribution kernel with ramdisk - or so it seems
<hramrach> did not look too closely ;-)
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<hramrach> root password is linux. searched for that for a while
<hramrach> the resize takes a while and only shows output on serial console
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<ldearquer> On my A33 tablet, I was trying to make a change on /dev/block/nandd (system) by reading the whole file, mounting it on my host system and writing it back with cat nandd > /dev/block/nandd
<ldearquer> Permissions are fine, but unlike with nanda and nandc, I am not allowed
<ldearquer> Could it be disallowed by the kernel at low level?
<ldearquer> In other words, is it common practice to prevent access to nandd partition?
<ldearquer> I know htc does sometimes
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<Ixnus> our A13 inside
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<Ixnus> it is this http://linux-sunxi.org/Bookeen_Cybook_Muse , just in white color
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<KotCzarny> nice price, its buy-it-now or auction?
<Ixnus> action :(
<KotCzarny> also, if its linux inside, its almost unhackable
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: FEL boot stopped to work recently?
<KotCzarny> hmm, i might confised the model though
<Ixnus> 12 EUR shipping to all Europe
<KotCzarny> *confused
<KotCzarny> right. the one i was thinking about had rockchip
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<tuxillo> ok, I'm installing the 3 major bsds
<tuxillo> to try the patch
<ElBarto> the one on github ?
<ElBarto> let me try now on FreeBSD, (I'm evadot btw)
<NiteHawk> hi ElBarto! :)
<ElBarto> Hi :)
<ElBarto> tuxillo: yeah as I said, no reason for it to not work
<ElBarto> I'm not sure for NetBSD thought, they may have some different defines
<ElBarto> but the patch works
<NiteHawk> i've linked a recent NetBSD header file in the PR comments, it seems they have adjusted to the 'usual' macro names, too
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<NiteHawk> so, no regression on https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-tools/pull/59 (FreeBSD fix), that's one tick on the checkboard
<tuxillo> ElBarto: ah, nice
<NiteHawk> btw: does any of you know of a CI service that would allow build testing on *BSD?
<tuxillo> buildbot
<tuxillo> well at least I did some tests with dragonfly and it worked okay
<NiteHawk> yes, but that would be self-hosted - right?
<tuxillo> not sure if there is something on the cloud
<ElBarto> NiteHawk: yeah it seems that NetBSD needs thoses extra defines
<ElBarto> don't know any popular CI that do BSD
<ElBarto> don't know any non-popular too :)
<NiteHawk> ElBarto: what version did you check that on?
<ElBarto> 12-CURRENT
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<ElBarto> I can test on 11 (stable version if you want)
<ElBarto> but I know the answer
<ElBarto> those files haven't been touch in ages :)
<tuxillo> hehe
<ElBarto> no problem on 11.0
<ElBarto> it can't work on 10.3 because our libusb is too old it seems
<tuxillo> ok, so freebsd is tested
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<NiteHawk> ElBarto: seems strange, sys/endian.h should #define le32toh() etc. iirc, NetBSD needs a special feature marker (#define _NETBSD_SOURCE), maybe that matters here
<ElBarto> NiteHawk: oh right, I missed the defines in netbsd source, I didn't test on NetBSD, I tought you ask about FreeBSD version
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<tuxillo> I'll be trying in NetBSD in a minute
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<NiteHawk> ElBarto: I don't think anybody is actively using/testing NetBSD sunxi-tools (at least no complaints so far ;)), so my main concern was in fact FreeBSD on your side - as we already "fixed" it once, and I don't want to break it again :D
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<willmore> ssvb, I was looking at the SPI NOR datasheet and though "hey, can we make this faster?"
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<ElBarto> NiteHawk: nobody is really using/testing sunxi-tools on FreeBSD too :)
<tuxillo> :D
<ElBarto> NiteHawk: I only needed it for booting on CHIP, never used it before
<buZz> woo CHIP reference
* buZz makes hipster sings
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<buZz> signs*
<buZz> :P
<NiteHawk> kids, steer clear of those drugs :)
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<buZz> kids arent made with drugs
<buZz> although it might help :D
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<willmore> It help to make them, it helps to keep them....
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: you can read the code of my fork of your u-boot repo
<Ixnus> wens: , MoeIcenowy: I want to test the H3 simplefb on CVBS/Composite
<MoeIcenowy> lxnus: but h3 U-Boot has still no composite support...
<Ixnus> I have board - cable - monitor :)
<Ixnus> :(
<Ixnus> Just for h3?
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Ok, thanks. I will merge changes.
<Ixnus> Because I think it has for some other boards/socs
<MoeIcenowy> lxnus: just for h3.
<MoeIcenowy> for other aw socs tv composite is supported
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: For A64 HDMI you should also enable TCON1 clock instead of TCON0
<jernej> I just remembered that
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: but the problem I met now is not about TCON, it's about HDMI PHY init timeout...
<MoeIcenowy> mysterious
<jernej> does it freeze or just report the problem?
<MoeIcenowy> just report it
<Ixnus> OK, I have hdmi cable too , if you need a tester
<MoeIcenowy> I used linaro gcc 6.1 now
<MoeIcenowy> for H3 now my own gcc 4.9 also works ;-)
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: That might suggest that some clock/gate/reset is not properly set
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<Ixnus> which is easier to implement composite or hdmi ?
<MoeIcenowy> lxnus: currently everyone focus on hdmi, not composite.
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I think that without "HDMI slow" clock enabled from beginning it doesn't work correctly
<jernej> e.g. you should never disable it
<tuxillo> NiteHawk: so not interested in the other BSDs (netbsd, openbsd)
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: yes, I will add it to the H3 simplefb node
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: I also have A64, but let's finish H3 code first
<MoeIcenowy> yes...
<MoeIcenowy> (On A64 even eMMC support is not fully done...
<jernej> you can try to make TV work. I suspect it is same IP core as in others (older) chips
<NiteHawk> tuxillo: you main concern was Dragonfly, which should conform to FreeBSD, correct?
<NiteHawk> s/you/your/
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: I have no screens capable of composite TV :-(
<MoeIcenowy> maybe I should buy a TV card
<jernej> ah, ok
<tuxillo> NiteHawk: yeah, I'll try your branch in DragonFly then
<tuxillo> but it should work
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: my friend buy one small (around 5 inch) from ebay, for around 20 usd
<jernej> I will probably too, just for playing with this :)
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<MoeIcenowy> A64 DE seems to be much more complex than H3
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<tuxillo> NiteHawk: what is this ? # For functions still missing below, try to substitute 'historic' OpenBSD names
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Why do you think so?
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: A64 DE has LCD output
<jernej> I think only real difference for that are TCON settings
<MoeIcenowy> yes...
<MoeIcenowy> maybe some magic number changed for A64?
<MoeIcenowy> and for A64 there's a PLL_VIDEO1
<MoeIcenowy> which is not present on H3
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<NiteHawk> tuxillo: oh, that's supposed to be a comment - i'll fix that. the preprocessor chokes on that, or?
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<tuxillo> ;)
<tuxillo> yeah
* NiteHawk searches for the brown paper bag
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<MoeIcenowy> jernej: I think HDMI PHY won't need a working TCON, right?
<jernej> For initialization and EDID reading, no
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<MoeIcenowy> so HDMI PHY init timeout problem is independent to TCON problem, right? :-)
<jernej> yes
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<jernej> I compared A64 and H3 datasheet and even disassembly of Allwinner binary blob and everything to the PHY init point seems to be equal
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<jernej> ignore for now. during driver writting I found out that for EDID reading this timeout doesn't change anything
<jernej> you can double check every register setting/address with datasheet (mostly clocks)
<MoeIcenowy> should I try to make the timeout non-fatal
<MoeIcenowy> ?
<jernej> it already is
<MoeIcenowy> oh yes..
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<tkaiser> In case anyone is interested, dump of /sys/devices from R40/3.10.65: http://sprunge.us/VcKM
<igraltist> tkaiser: which board?
<tkaiser> Banana Pi M2 Ultra, AFAIK the only one so far with R40
<NiteHawk> tkaiser: any details on SoC ID and SRAM/"swap buffer" layout yet?
<tkaiser> NiteHawk: Nope, I also do not have physical access to a board
<NiteHawk> ah, i see. the register dump made me think so
<tkaiser> NiteHawk: That's just the result of find /sys/devices -type f | while read ; do echo -e "${REPLY}: $(cat "${REPLY}" 2>/dev/null | tr '\n' '|')"; done | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
<MoeIcenowy> oh R40 have a G2D...
<KotCzarny> :)
<KotCzarny> so its good ol' a20 with updated bits
<KotCzarny> i wonder if they work on replacing cores with a53 ones ;)
<buZz> a73*
<buZz> :D
<MoeIcenowy> but R40 disp is disp2...
<buZz> lets dream BIGGER
<MoeIcenowy> buZz: you thought too more
<MoeIcenowy> allwinner failed on their SoC with a big core -- A80
<buZz> doesnt ARM licensing include 'plz fix out shitty silicon' ? :D
<buZz> our*
<MoeIcenowy> oh R40 continue to have both GMAC and EMAC...
<MoeIcenowy> and continue to have PS/2 ... (and two PS/2 !)
<KotCzarny> ps/2 ?
<MoeIcenowy> PS/2 mouse/keyboard interface ;-)
<KotCzarny> it still lives?
<jelle> good thing I still have a PS/2 keyboard :D
<Pepe> me too and typing from it!
<MoeIcenowy> I've heard some game players who continue to use PS/2 keyboards because of USB HID protocol cannot support >5 keys pressed at a time
<MoeIcenowy> but I don't think Banana Pi M2 Ultra have the PS/2 interface wired
<KotCzarny> rrrright, as if anyone going to press 5 buttons at once
<MoeIcenowy> and will anyone make a board which uses the two MACs at the same time...
<ssvb> but you have 10 fingers, no?
<KotCzarny> 20
<ssvb> right :-)
<KotCzarny> 21 if i count few other things
<MoeIcenowy> you may need two keyboards to use all the 20 fingers :-)
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<nove> also there is the nose
<KotCzarny> good player cant take eyes away from the screen
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<igraltist> i ordered a orangepi-pc will see how this work. searching for boards for a small cluster
<tkaiser> igraltist: Raspberry Pi Zero instead? Slow as hell so you can use more cluster nodes! ;)
* dgp isn't sure he get's the point to chaining together multiple machines with relatively low CPU performance and crap IO
<igraltist> i will see
<igraltist> as compilestation this would work good i think
<dgp> You could add all the nodes you like, my old 4790k with 32GB of ram will beat it
<igraltist> this is not my goal to compare with others
<dgp> I just don't get it really... If I was going to tape together a bunch of slow CPUs it would be something like m68k or z80 where you could actually write everything running on it
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<igraltist> its not your playground for me its fine
<buZz> :)
<KotCzarny> dgp: low power compilation cluster?
<KotCzarny> still needs one good central machine though
<dgp> KotCzarny: I doubt that it'll save all that much power when you have all the glue to make it work
<KotCzarny> dgp, i made me decacore one ;) bpi-r1 (that works overshifts as a server/router too) + opipc + opi+2e
<dgp> I have some Armada370 based thing for a router. One of the only ARM devices I've seen that actually has decent network throughput
<KotCzarny> for home use banana enough
<KotCzarny> it really only has to fit usecase
<dgp> Can it handle 200 or 300mbit through software NAT?
<KotCzarny> i only have 30/30mbit net pipe
<igraltist> i have only 5/0.4 Mbit/s
<dgp> I have gigabit but max in either way is usually only 300mbit
<igraltist> therefore netspeed is always slow on my side
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<KotCzarny> dgp, and you should ask tkaiser about software nat performance, as he is the network guy, dont mention bpi-r1 though. ;)
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: Who mentioned Crapboard R1!? And this is stuff for an 'engine' since those ARM cores are too slow anyway. Look at Marvell.
<dgp> Armada is the only way to go if you want ARM and decent network performance IMHO
<KotCzarny> tkaiser: did you test any other board in gmac + usb-network though?
<KotCzarny> + software nat
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: What?
<dgp> This should be good if it doesn't have the usual globalscale overheating issues
<KotCzarny> tkaser: performance of such setup
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: Nope, nothing tested so far. Will have a look in 2017
<KotCzarny> 0.246kg? could be heavy
<dgp> tkaiser: heh, that might pull the CPU off the board
<dgp> The Armada370 I have has been running for ~200 days without any heat sink :)
<dgp> and it's in a case the size of two or three CD cases with no air flow
<tkaiser> For anyone playing around with R40, BPi M2 Ultra and legacy kernel: RPi-Monitor template to monitor device: http://pastebin.com/rSPvsV5p (only value missing/wrong is VDD_CPUX/vcorevoltage -- that's the sysfs node from AXP803/Pine64)
<igraltist> does the latest u-boot boot the cubietruck from sata
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<tkaiser> Ah, I should add DRAM clockspeed since frequency is adjusted depending on 'budget cooling'. DRAM clocks currently with just 576 MHz and will throttle down to 288 or even 192 MHz (but by default 576 and not the 733 MHz clueless SinoVoip folks mention on their 'product page')
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<rpirea> hi
<rpirea> uboot have support for NAND sun4i?
<rpirea> and i cand boot form NAND?
<rpirea> i have a cubieboard
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<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Can you please test my latest change? I removed some interrupt settings and disable HDCP
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<jelle> jernej for u-boot h3 hdmi?
<jernej> jelle: yes
<jelle> jernej: I can test it too on an orange pi {one,pc}, what was the git repo again?
<jernej> thanks
<jernej> currently only known issue is pink image on 4K display
<jernej> but I don't have it, so I don't know what to do
<jelle> I don't have 4k either
<jernej> but maybe, just maybe, HDCP was the issue :)
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<tkaiser> jernej: purple or pink?
<jernej> jelle: doesn't matter, test is welcome anyway
<jernej> tkaiser: I'm not sure
<jernej> do you have 4k display?
<tkaiser> jernej: Nope, but with DVI displays and BSP kernel I always get black as purple
<jelle> jernej: blue display showing here
<jelle> but this is HDMI => DVI
<jernej> tkaiser: this sounds like color space issue
<jelle> of which I am not sure if the BSP handles that
<tkaiser> jernej: It is one, I can adjust input colorspace on the display and everything is ok again :)
<jernej> jelle: what display you have?
<jelle> ok let's try my tv
<jelle> jernej: samsung BW2342 http://dpaste.com/283FZPK
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<jernej> jelle: weird, your board doesn't read EDID correctly. That didn't happen for a long time to me.
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<jernej> jelle: I can't find any description of your monitor on the net
<jelle> jernej: well I have a HDMI => DVI conversion thing which might be borkey
<jelle> it's passive
<jernej> jelle: you can try also to revert latest commit, if it makes any difference
<jelle> I'll try my tv :)
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<jernej> jelle: I tried same monitor with passive HDMI -> DVI cable and it works
<jernej> seems that it depends on the monitor controller and/or cable
<jelle> jernej: I'm expecting text in u-boot bootup right?
<jernej> yes
<jelle> jernej: hmm blue screen on my tv too
<jernej> did you compile my branch as-is?
<jelle> jernej: yup
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<jernej> can you revert latest commit and try again?
<jelle> jernej: tv seems to read and detect the correct resolution
<jelle> jernej: 2d913901506050e84b3dee51569d819b02dc35e7 this one
<jernej> jelle: yes
<jelle> ok
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<beeble> if the picture is pink and youbare using a dvi adapter it could be wrong edid parsing. dvi compatible output should always be possible with rgb444 iirc. unfortunatly i cant browse code at the moment
<jelle> jernej: hmm I'll have to go, I'll check it tommorow
<jernej> jelle: no problem
<beeble> thats at least a problem with sunxi bsp on most platforms i have seen
<beeble> the older the screen the more often i have seen that issue
<jernej> that would be HDMI/DVI issue. But at least that seems to work
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