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<jp> hello.
<jp> is there anyone know to select a10s reference board?
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<ssvb> libv, Turl_, mnemoc: how difficult is it to get access to upload stuff to http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/ ?
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<libv> ssvb: it's easy, mnemoc just needs to be around for a few mins
<ssvb> libv: thanks
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<ifjGery> hello, can someone help me a little? after compiling u-boot there is no u-boot-spl.bin in the spl folder.
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<ssvb> ifjGery: which u-boot compilation instructions are you using?
<rellla> ifjGery: it's named spl/sunxi-spl.bin
<rellla> if using sunxi u-boot ^^
<ifjGery> and the wiki says this: When the build has completed, there will be spl/u-boot-spl.bin and u-boot.bin available in your u-boot tree.
<ifjGery> i tried to search for anykind of .bin but only find u-boot.bin
<ifjGery> board type is sun5i, its an android tablet
<ssvb> ifjGery: as rellla said, it also sends you to http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card#Bootloader
<ifjGery> yes, i see. but the u-boot version on the device is pre 2013
<ifjGery> do you think thet the only bin that i get out of compile is the combinated one?
<ifjGery> *that
<ssvb> ifjGery: I have just fixed the wiki page, thanks :)
<ssvb> what do you mean pre 2013? right now you are compiling a fresh u-boot-sunxi from git
<ssvb> btw, there have been some recent merges, so the u-boot-sunxi git might be not in the very best shape
<ssvb> I'm actually still primarily using af9f4057a5919f32bd8aa1ab62fa706962879278 (which is a bit old) and did not really try newer updates
<ifjGery> oh, so the version i'm compiling is not releated to the version on the device? alsom, yes its the newest git
<ssvb> when you are booting from the sd card, you are not relying on anything that was pre-installed on the device
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<ssvb> which is very nice, because everything is on your sd card
<ssvb> you can easily backup it or restore at any time if anything goes wrong
<ifjGery> oh, thankyou
<ifjGery> but how the system know that it shouldnt be loading from the NAND and load from the card instead
<ssvb> http://linux-sunxi.org/BROM explains the boot order
<ssvb> SD card has the highest priority
<ifjGery> when i'm loading the sistem with serial line attached, the preinstalled uboot comes up, but seems like it cant see the SD card at all
<ifjGery> okay, so it tries to load from the SD and after that loads the NAND
<ifjGery> okay, now i got it, thanks :)
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<libv> ifjGery: what hardware are you working on?
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<Turl_> ssvb: easy if we know you :)
<Turl_> ssvb: you have a ssh account already, don't you?
<ifjGery> libv: its a chinaTablet, it has ICOO printed on, it has an A13 cpu inside
<ifjGery> my main goal now is to get the linux booted and talk to it on the serial line, so i can work my way up from that point
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<libv> ifjGery: which of these is it: http://linux-sunxi.org/Category:A13_Tablets\
<libv> or are you working through our new device howto?
<libv> if so, you really should do things in the order described and create the wiki page as step 2
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<ifjGery> libv as far as i can tell, its seems like a new device, atm i'm uploading pictures to imgurl, and after that i will go to the new device page as suggested
<ifjGery> currently doing manual bild tutorial
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<Black_Horseman> polu hsyxia simera, pethane kaneis?
<ssvb> Turl_: I don't think that I have an ssh account yet
<Turl_> ssvb: do you want/need one?
<Turl_> ssvb: provide me your ssh pubkey and I can create one if you need it in a hurry
<Turl_> alternatively just wait for mnemoc :)
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<ssvb> Turl_: either way is fine, I'm not in a hurry :)
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<Turl_> ok :)
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<Turl_> ELC is not going to be recorded this year :(
<ifjGery> sorry for being a newby, but how can i create a page on the wiki?
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<Turl_> ifjGery: log in, visit the URL of the page you want to create and hit the create button
<ifjGery> Turl_: thankyou
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<gaby_> hi there, I am searching for information about kvm support on allwinner a20. Is there someone who have tested it ?
<gaby_> thanks
<maz_> gaby_: KVM works perfectly on A20. I use it as my test rig each and every day.
<gaby_> nice
<gaby_> maz_: which kernel version are you using ? 3.10 ? or simply a 3.4 ?
<maz_> gaby_: just use a recent u-boot, and you'll be in business.
<maz_> gaby_: no. use mainline. none of that 3.4, 3.10 thing is relevant.
<gaby_> in order to have the hyp mode activated ?
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<maz_> gaby_: yes.
<gaby_> ok, so mainline have support for a20 ? when looking at the website, it seems the port is not finished
<gaby_> ie not upstreamed
<maz_> gaby_: there is enough support in mainline to make it work. not everything is supported, nut if all you require is netowking and mass storage, this is perfectly useable.
<gaby_> that is really good news, thanks
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<gaby_> so if I need more devices, I will have to grab the code in the branches, and port it
<maz_> probably. talk to the people that have started the work though.
<gaby_> yep
<gaby_> thanks a lot
<maz_> you're welcome.
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<buZz> /wg #reprap
<buZz> oooo
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<ifjGery> @: unknown type 34t.bin: 0p+dqc�.~!jcI
<ifjGery> bin2fex gives me this error ^
<ifjGery> any idea?
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<ssvb> ifjGery: broken script.bin ?
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<ifjGery> neverminde, maybe the serial line is lossy, just copied over adb
<ifjGery> -e
<ifjGery> fallowing the tutorial is more fun than i can imagine :)
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<megal0maniac> Hi all. Just wondered whether anyone here knows about the issue of libnand formatting nand if it can't read it
<megal0maniac> I was talking about it the other day, but nobody actively online really know. Apparently it is a known issue (amongst some)
<megal0maniac> s/know/knew
<megal0maniac> Perhaps libv or ssvb ?
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* brain_ wonders if it is possible to wrap android mali libs for use in a native x11 based install?
<brain_> sorta like what the libvecore solution does...system i am working with has no x11 libs out there :(
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<megal0maniac_afk> I've built the kernel according to http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_Kernel but ethernet and the LEDs don't work. I've specifically included "support for realtek phy chips" in menuconfig and every option which suggested it might be required for LED or ethernet support
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<megal0maniac> I've done it twice now, and since I'm compiling on the host, it takes rather long
<rm> get a working .config
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<rm> and compile with it first; or even a working kernel and not compile
<rm> at all
<megal0maniac> rm: I'm using the generic sun7i one as well as the one supplied by the vendor
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<megal0maniac> With me ticking lots of boxes in addition
<megal0maniac> One sec
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<mnemoc> moin
<andoma> 'lo
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<ccaione> mnemoc: moin
<ccaione> mnemoc: I called the office, it takes several months *_*
<mnemoc> doh
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<ccaione> like, if you call today you get it on October
<ccaione> fuckin' italy, I'm ashamed
<ccaione> at least this is in Milan
<ccaione> dunno other cities
<mnemoc> ccaione: well... in rome it's probably a year then :p
<ccaione> yeah, probably
<mnemoc> ccaione: thanks for trying :)
<ccaione> np
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<libv> ifjGery has a icoo d50
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<libv> he made good pictures, but does need quite a hand
<libv> i will spend a few minutes cleaning things up tomorrow
<megal0maniac_afk> libv: Hey
<megal0maniac_afk> Any idea about my kernel woes?
<megal0maniac_afk> What is required for ethernet to work? Aside from the default defconfig, networking support in general and realtek phy support?
<megal0maniac_afk> If I don't copy the modules into /lib, it works, which I find strange
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<megal0maniac_afk> Oh, and more importantly the nand thing
<megal0maniac_afk> Where apparently libnand formats nand when it doesn't understand it
<ifjGery> hello
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<ifjGery> i made a bootable SD card, but it wont boot, any troubleshooting tips?
<megal0maniac> ifjGery: Serial console is your friend
<ifjGery> i'm at the serial console, waht should i see?
<megal0maniac> The error that tells you why boot failed
<megal0maniac> Reset the board with the serial console open. The last few lines before it halts should tell you what the problem is
<ifjGery> actually, there is no error
<ifjGery> no halting occurs, starts the nand automatically
<libv> ifjGery: i just moved your page to Icoo_d50
<libv> and i am now cleaning it up
<libv> megal0maniac: i have no immediate clue about the ethernet issue
<ifjGery> thankyou libv
<libv> ifjGery: i do have some questions still
<ifjGery> if i can help, please tell me
<libv> ifjGery: good pictures btw
<megal0maniac> ifjGery: That means that there's an issue with the bootloader
<megal0maniac> On the card
<ifjGery> libv: what ar teh questions?
<libv> ifjGery: what amperage is your power supply?
<ifjGery> megal0maniac: any good way to test, or just go through the tutorials again, and look for any faulty
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<libv> ifjGery: check that you dd-ed the u-boot bits to the right places
<megal0maniac> libv: Is it normal that it works if it can't find the modules to match the current kernel?
<libv> megal0maniac: it isn't but i have no clue as to what that signifies.
<ifjGery> libv: before that, i have one question, how do i know that the u-boot.bin file is combined with spl or not?
<libv> megal0maniac: is network maneger getting in the way?
<libv> ifjGery: both tend to get build
<libv> built even
<libv> ifjGery: so just pick one or the other option
<ifjGery> okay, but i only find one and no spl version
<ifjGery> maybe when i was editing the boards.cfg i should add SPL switch too?
<libv> ifjGery: yes
<ifjGery> i saw it on some boards, and no hint on adding anything other
<ifjGery> great, brb gonna try
<libv> ifjGery: most of the sunxi ones seem to have it
<megal0maniac> libv: Not sure, not using X at the moment. The status lights on the port go dead shortly after boot
<libv> megal0maniac: do you have miitool or miidiag or so installed?
<megal0maniac> No
<libv> megal0maniac: also, which modules get loaded that make it go dead?
<megal0maniac> Don't know what those are
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<libv> megal0maniac: mii is media independent interface
<libv> it is for talking to the phyceiver
<megal0maniac> Aah, I see
<megal0maniac> I would have thought a lot of that stuff would have been enabled by default for sun7i
<megal0maniac> The phyceiver itself is the only thing that isn't common between A20s
<megal0maniac> (in terms of networking)
<libv> megal0maniac: get one of those tools and see what the phyceiver states about the link
<libv> then, find out what modules are getting loaded, and blacklist the likely culprits
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<megal0maniac> My Linux dev knowledge is limited, but I shall start with that. :)
<libv> megal0maniac: that's not "
<libv> dev knowledge"
<megal0maniac> Perhaps. But I've never needed to compile my kernel before
<ifjGery> little bit of a problem, #include <fcntl.h>, seems like i did not seen this error befora and asumed that the compiling was good
<ifjGery> how do i link it properly, tried linux/fcntl and asm-generic/fcntl too
<ifjGery> link -> include
<libv> ifjGery: where do you encounter this error?
<ifjGery> compiling u-boot, after dumping the dram info
<ifjGery> it made a c file, and in it there is this include
<libv> did it? did you compare this to existing files?
<libv> the tool might be outdated
<ifjGery> not really.. but now i should i think
<ifjGery> i'll try to copy one of the fcntl from linux-sunxi, maybe that will work
<libv> ifjGery: no, compare this with other files
<libv> if you find one that's exactly the same, use that, otherwise, create your own
<ifjGery> okay
<libv> ifjGery: also, if you boot into android, can you finish off the android identification information?
<ifjGery> yes, ill fix my dram c file and will deal with it, but, i have one little problem, on the device there is no touchpanel, and i dont have any usb-otg cable, so, how can i get that info from adb?
<megal0maniac> Ffff. SPI still doesn't work
<libv> ifjGery: you got some file made already, no?
<libv> something that came with fcntl?
<megal0maniac> libv: Not sure what I was doing wrong, but it's fine now as expected (with realtek phy support included in kernel) but SPI will not work
<megal0maniac> Or not appear in /dev/ rather
<libv> megal0maniac: i have no idea about spi
<ifjGery> actually, the C i got is nothin like the others, i blindly copyed over the stuff and did not think
<megal0maniac> libv: Do you know about libnand wiping android?
<megal0maniac> That's the other important thing I want to figure out
<libv> megal0maniac: this was the issue with using the different layout between a10 and a20, right?
<libv> ifjGery: how did you get that file?
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<megal0maniac> No, this is something else. Apparently android uses a different (newer) layout than what libnand (current version) understands. And it's been suggested that there's code in libnand that performs an unconditional format if it cannot access the nand partition table
<ifjGery> if i remember correctly, i got it with fel
<libv> megal0maniac: yikes
<ifjGery> bootinfo
<libv> ifjGery: cool
<libv> ifjGery: then transfer those values by hand
<megal0maniac> In reality, if you have android installed and you boot linux off an SD card, android breaks
<ifjGery> and i copied bootinfo.c to board, that was the problem
<megal0maniac> This is repeatable
<ifjGery> libv: yes, now i know -.-
<libv> ifjGery: check the adding the u-boot support stuff
<libv> in the new device howto
<libv> megal0maniac: that is really nasty, and should get fixed
<ifjGery> seems like i overlookd something, my bad, anyhow now i'm fixing the thing
<libv> megal0maniac: seems like you need to go neuter libnand
<megal0maniac> libv: It's in libnand, so as I understand it, it isn't in our control. Apparently someone here knows more about the issue but nobody has spoken up
<libv> megal0maniac: we have the code for an older version of libnand, it can get stopped
<libv> ifjGery: i have tightened up your page
<libv> ifjGery: please fill in the red bits
<libv> ah, the link
<megal0maniac> I'm afraid that's above my level of expertise
<megal0maniac> But I'll dig around regardless
<megal0maniac> Is it on github?
<ifjGery> okay, going there now
<libv> megal0maniac: it is in our linux-sunxi tree
<libv> ifjGery: i have given the u-boot support and the fex file a proper name
<libv> ifjGery: please make the patches match that
<ifjGery> okay, on to that shortly
<megal0maniac> libv: sunxi_nand?
<ifjGery> if i do dd if=/dev/zero of=${card} bs=1M count=1, the partition table will wanish?
<ifjGery> or just the bootloader?
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<libv> ifjGery: the partition table will also vanish
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<torindel> ifjGery: partition table is in first 512 bytes, bootloader is 256kb starting at 8kb of device
<libv> ifjGery: dd if=/dev/zero of=${card} bs=1k count=1023 seek=1
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<ifjGery> libv: Build Number... what should i write here, i'm on the device and build.prop says this http://pastebin.com/v5HQy3mr
<libv> ifjGery: what does it say in settings?
<ifjGery> i cant get there
<libv> oh, lack of touchscreen :(
<libv> ifjGery: did you break it?
<ifjGery> it was my mothers, she broke it, and because we can not find a replacement on ebay, she got a newone and i got this
<libv> ah, i see
<libv> i'll take a likely candidate then
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<libv> ifjGery: which button did you use to trigger fel mode?
<libv> (not the one behind the microphone hole...)
<libv> vol+ ?
<Wizzup> interesting
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<ifjGery> home button
<ifjGery> but using that wont trigger fel
<ifjGery> pushing the power 3 times will
<libv> ifjGery: ok, but home is
<libv> "the suspected or reported FEL key"
<ifjGery> its like... not fel, it will boot into an android service mode
<ifjGery> serial console does not say its fel
<libv> oh, recovery.
<libv> where did you get the ram info from?
<ifjGery> something like that, but no menu there, only a droid opened up and an exclamation mark floating over it
<libv> hrm
<ifjGery> what ram info? the fex stuff?
<libv> yes, from that android "service" mode
<libv> ?
<ifjGery> no, i used the standard mode, pushing the home while turning on, and after that, pressing the power button 3 times
<ifjGery> also, this will work while holding 2 while booting, on the serial line
<libv> we seem to be confusing things here
<libv> what button is "the suspected or reported FEL key.", from http://linux-sunxi.org/FEL#By_holding_a_standard_button
<buZz> sooo
<buZz> any A80 devboards released yet?
<ifjGery> oh -.- sorry
<ifjGery> its the home button
<ifjGery> or... back according to this picture http://linux-sunxi.org/File:ICOO_buttons.JPG
<ifjGery> also, thats funny, because on the PCB it says ESC, but if i remember correctly it does home
<libv> ok
<libv> all we need to do now is get this thing running, and then have the patches submitted to our ml and comitted to the repos
<ifjGery> okay, thanks fot the help
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<libv> ifjGery: nice work, this device is well on track to get proper documented and supported
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<ifjGery> i think i broke something, can not eject the SD card from my system, linux says -> eject: tried to use `/dev/sdb' as device name but it is no block device
<ifjGery> maybe a reboot will fix, but can i fix it without reboot?
<ifjGery> brb
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<ifjGery> i'm back, reboot fixed it
<ifjGery> i think i'll start the bootable sdcard tutorial from the beginning, just to be sure
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<ifjGery> okay, now i'm half good
<ifjGery> SD stuff done, booting up device, nothing happens, instead of booting off nand
<ifjGery> maybe its good, but the serial is not talking to me :|
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<ifjGery> if the linux is not working, than the u-boot should say something, am i right?
<Turl> hey mnemoc
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<torindel> ifjGery: boot0/1/2, uboot and kernel should all be talk-active ;]
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<vicomte88> I am looking one image of feebsd or openbsd BOOT INSTALL for cubi2
<vicomte88> is possible
<vicomte88> ?
<torindel> vicomte88: i know that freebsd should have support
<ifjGery> torindel: thy, then i dont know what went wrong
<torindel> dunno about openbsd
<torindel> ifjGery: you use TTL->RS232 converter?
<torindel> and connected pins correctly?
<ifjGery> yes, when booting from nand, the stock u-boot and android is talking on the line
<torindel> wierd
<torindel> boot0 too?
<Turl> ifjGery: what device?
<ifjGery> the SD card and the image is fresh, maybe i misconfigured it
<Turl> ifjGery: got the fex handy?
<ifjGery> but i dont know where, check'd everything
<Turl> why is there a space in front? o.O
<ifjGery> oh, sorry, will fix later
<Turl> ifjGery: what about the uboot config?
<ifjGery> is this normal? http://pastebin.com/yLqjVEya
<Turl> the last two look shady
<ifjGery> uboot config http://pastebin.com/J8iphiPb
<Turl> I mean the board conf on the uboot code
<Turl> is it on linux-sunxi already?
<vicomte88> sorry i'm french.. is feasible or not
<vicomte88> ?
<ifjGery> just added, will update git after got it working
<Turl> ifjGery: can you paste the board.something like you added?
<Turl> line*
<ifjGery> whait, on board.cfg should i add something to support the uart?
<Turl> vicomte88: read http://linux-sunxi.org/FreeBSD
<torindel> vicomte88: dont know about normal install, but at least booting freebsd kernel is posible
<Turl> ifjGery: A13 uarts are.. interesting, because there's not many
<Turl> do you have access to one on the hardware?
<vicomte88> is no good "no boot "
<vicomte88> ??
<ifjGery> sun5i:ICOO,SPL <- should i add something more here?
<Turl> ifjGery: depends on which uart you're using
<ifjGery> http://linux-sunxi.org/Icoo_d50 <-- this is my actual device, i made the pictures
<ifjGery> according to the stock u-boot, its ttyS0
<Turl> ifjGery: try adding CONS_INDEX=2
<Turl> clean and rebuild uboot and rewrite it to your card afterwards
<ifjGery> okay, but what will it do?
<vicomte88> Is it possible to find an image file that works directly for procedures necessary to have Free BSD already installed on another machine
<ifjGery> i mean, is there any hints on the switches?
<Turl> ifjGery: it'll make uboot use UART1
<vicomte88> I only have machines with Linux
<Turl> which seems to be the one configured on the fex