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<libv> no luck reading anything in fel mode on my a10s mk802 ripoff
<libv> libusb usb_bulk_send error -7
* libv verifies on an a10 tablet
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<libv> oooh.
<libv> by reworking the FEL howto, i also fully read its contents.
<Seppoz> :P
<Turl> libv: which fel mode are you using? and what are you trying to read?
<Seppoz> why is anyone using fel mode at all? stilldont understand that
<Seppoz> just for recovery?
<Turl> livesuit can be handy
<Turl> also handy if you don't have a sd card. Or if you can't use the slot (ie, if that's your only uart and you're debugging sth)
<libv> Turl: i used the fel button on the a10s
<Seppoz> i see
<libv> special button == no device init.
<libv> no device init == no reading anything
<libv> "unclench the key"
<libv> that's what it says in boot1 over serial on the a10
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<libv> keys that you clench are not buttons.
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<libv> at one point, i will have rewritten this wiki entirely, on my own :p
<libv> oliv3r: how much of your book is copy-paste from the wiki?
<libv> oliv3r: what will the royalties be like? :p
<Seppoz> xD
<libv> hrm, when did nove last see a register which is not 32 bit aligned?
<libv> and was that on ARM hardware?
<libv> or was he looking at registers defined by big blue in the early 80s?
<libv> he really has not done much of this before :)
<libv> i will tell him off when he gets back :)
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<wens> 3.14 released!
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<mrnuke> wens: I beat you to it ;)
<wens> mrnuke: :p
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<Turl> wens: like a day late or so :P
<Turl> I get mail notifications, courtesy of ifttt :p
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<wens> didn't check LKML yesterday :p
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<wens> Turl: I wait for LWN.net announcements :p
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<punith> hi . i want to acess boot0 partition in my A20 board. i used sunxi-nfc-mtd driver from yuq repositary.but it is kernel panic error. can anyone did accessing boot0 partition
<wens> funny, I'm having trouble mounting the boot partition on my A23 tablet
<wens> I swear it worked the last time
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<wens> FEL mode output for A23: https://gist.github.com/wens/9909701
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<megal0maniac_afk> Anyone know how to force a browser to get non-mobile webpages? I think it's something to do with the useragent but I'm not sure what to change to what
<rm> what is your current useragent?
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<gzamboni> oh, i didnt know there were a devmem2 command line tool to play directly with the I/O adresses mapped in a physical address
<gzamboni> useful tool :)
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<vector80> Hi there, does A20 have a thermal sensor & monitoring support ?
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<wingrime> Jemk:are you tryed figureout 0x28 counter
<jemk> wingrime: i don't think its a counter, the other counters are readonly, 0x28 can be written to
<wingrime> Hm, last time I tryed it, it mask was like counter
<wingrime> Maybe it related with some regs
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<wingrime> jemk: what for you currently most intersting in cedar? Isp?
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<jemk> wingrime: nothing special, no time to do big things
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<wingrime> At least increase vbv buffer, for 4k video it looks like gives some speedup
<wingrime> Vdpau limitations are shame
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<rellla> libv: seems most people aren't interested in NDH :(
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<libv> rellla: yes, clearly
<libv> wtf.
<libv> i just mailed merrii "ndh, or your page will be removed."
<libv> i now mention ndh twice on the front page, and still people refuse to do it.
<libv> megal0maniac_afk refuses to do it as well
<libv> that indian idiot who keeps posting in the wrong thread
<libv> the guy with the 7" A23 is also not fixing his mess.
<libv> heck, not even oliv3r does ndh
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<libv> and ahrovan just seems interested in writing up stuff on his own site.
<libv> and then having us link to it.
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<codekipper> libv: yo...I think you need something like the message at the top of http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC.
<codekipper> a few minutes ago I needed to cut and paste the NDH address and it wasn't as easy to find as I remember
<libv> codekipper: front page?
<libv> codekipper: it's mentioned twice now
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<codekipper> libv: yep....I was expecting it to stand out but it took me a few seconds to find it
* libv checks the most popular page
<codekipper> my eye site is shot to pieces though!
<libv> xbmc is pretty low down though
<libv> codekipper: i have been thinking about moving the whole devices section above the quick reference guide and tutorials on the front page
<libv> perhaps i should do that
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<libv> even though i have had little feedback so far
<libv> manual build howto is #5, which is cool
<codekipper> libv: yeah, I can see that it's there twice now. I saw the one at the bottom and had to search for the 2nd one
<libv> 49/79 documented devices are not NDHed properly :(
<codekipper> libv: just add a polite message saying something like 'this community needs your support. Please if you have a device which isn't listed below then please spend time going though the NDH'
<codekipper> libv: but you're getting there
<libv> codekipper: people will still blindly ignore that
<libv> codekipper: yes, mostly by myself, although you did good work on your mk808c
<codekipper> I should lend a hand instead of handing out advice.
<codekipper> libv: then you be justified in opening that can of whoop ass!
<libv> :)
<libv> codekipper: mk802 needs work
<libv> btw, it's your user page that triggered me to list my own hw on my own page
<libv> mk802 needs full ndh, but it also needs a user picture for the infobox (not something stolen from a vendor site)
<codekipper> libv: promise me that you don't enforce a user page template
<libv> and the mk802ii is really a different device
<libv> codekipper: nope, i won't, i would like people to list their own hw though
<libv> so i can more easily haunt them :p
<codekipper> I will need to beautify my mk802 setup before adding the photos....my soldering was shocking!
<libv> we have some internal pictures which work
<libv> just no external ones
<codekipper> exactly...I'll also like to see some indication of what walkthroughs have been attempted / succeeded.
<libv> the internal pictures just need to be cleaned up a bit, and a uart should get marked out
<codekipper> I've got a cut and paste job that's in my google drive but that's more a hassle to get to quickly than the wiki page
<codekipper> and I've got no secrets to keep
<libv> :)
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<codekipper> I'll see what I can do re:photos
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<libv> in a few days, when a proper digicam has arrived, i will make a howto on how to create a device opening tool from an old toothbrush
<libv> did anyone ever buy one of those special kits, and can he take a picture of it?
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<ccaione> hahah 1st april ;)
<gzamboni> oh, 1st april
<gzamboni> lol
<gzamboni> they got me !!!!! :P
<mru> everything on the internet today is a joke
<mru> oh wait, that's true every day
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<wens> anyone happen to have boot0/1 binaries for A31?
<Turl> wens: there's an sdk on dl.
<labrador> hey Turl :)
<Turl> hi labrador
<wens> poking around boot0 for A23, the format seems different, and there's no boot1 binary in the SDK
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<ccaione> mripard: ?????
<ccaione> LDD4?
<mripard> yep
<ccaione> OMFG
<ccaione> buying right now
<Turl> ccaione: " This title has not yet been released."
<ccaione> I know (July 25, 2014)
<ccaione> you can pre-order :)
<alexvf> any dev knows about INTERNAL_YCBCR_FORMAT
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<Turl> I never heard of the author
<Turl> git repos are cool though :) I'll clone and make
<ccaione> she is nice O_O
<Turl> it doesn't build :P
<ccaione> lol
<ccaione> mripard: do you know her?
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<mripard> no, I don't
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<ccaione> hooo, ok I remember her for ksplice
<wens> ccaione: A23 seems to have a different NMI interrupt controller, and no docs :(
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<ccaione> wens: yeah, I was expecting that
<alexvf> any expert on libvdpau here? i'm trying to implement the vdp_video_surface_get_bits_y_cb_cr function but no idea what sample format is INTERNAL_YCBCR_FORMAT
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<wingrime2> alexvf: better wait jemk
<wingrime2> alexvf: if you talking about cedar internal formats, cedarx have set uncal tiled formats
<wingrime2> *unical
<alexvf> wingrime2: do you mean they use special non standard formats?
<alexvf> wingrime2: anyway, thanks for the tip, jemk was my first option, big dissapointment when i saw he was not here :)
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<alexvf> wingrime2: in the meantime i will try out some wild sampling formats, to see if i hit the prize
<nove> alexvf: if not mistaken, the format is the 32x32 version of V4L2_PIX_FMT_NV12MT_16X16
<alexvf> wingrime2: oh, thank you very much
<nabblet> hi, a bit ot: what file system do you recommend for sd-cards? from what i have read jffs2 is quite common
<nove> libv: unaligned register where?
<nove> libv: but is true, before this, the only last time that i poked registers was in a mips dvb-s settopbox
<libv> nove: your register template has "4B" in it :)
<libv> nove: it's going to all be 32bit aligned
<libv> sometimes you will get it divided up, but still, the main access routines will all be 32 bit
<libv> nove: also, Default (Hex), the hex seems superfluous, as you would notate it as 0xXXXXXXXX and decimal would just be numbers
<libv> all of this makes the result of your register template a lot cleaner and intuitive
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<nove> i see, but is not only i working in that page
<libv> nove: also, RW/RO/WO are the common abbreviations for Read/write etc
<libv> sure, but you were the last poking at it, so i now just tagged you :p
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<mripard> nabblet: jffs2 can't work at all on the sd cards
<nove> ok, thanks
<nabblet> mripard: after your statement i read more and i see you're right. it is for direct access...
<nabblet> mripard: so ext2 then?
<nabblet> to avoid journaling
<Turl> libv: R/W/RW is easier on the eyes imo
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<mripard> nabblet: yes, it's an usual choice. F2FS is the new comer, you might want to take a look at it too.
<wingrime2> nove: better debug your template for small set, than move all to it
<nove> jemk, wingrime2, it would be good to reorganize the register pages to be more uniform and more correct, but i am a bit clueless in how to do it, so if you have suggestions or go ahead and do changes
<nabblet> mripard: i'm a newcomer too :P don't knwo the proper translation but the german proverb goes like "lear riding on old horses"
<nabblet> *learn
<nabblet> mripard: thank you for your advice, much appreciated
<nabblet> i have to leave now. thanks
<mripard> you're welcome
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<nove> wingrime2: yes, no plans to change the rest, and also that template is not a much improvement
<Turl> interesting that we only hear of their releases via news blogs and the like :)
<wingrime2> nove: not do is so quick firstly make it fully-cool
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<isthatme> so if I grab the git source for the fex tools on my regular x86 laptop and make
<isthatme> will it work?
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<isthatme> I need to change the hdmi settings becuase I'm getting errors on both the tvs I'm using
<Turl> yeah, the tools work just fine
<isthatme> okay, thanks
<mrnuke> mripard: I'm confused: "You also forgot the changes between this version and the previous one.". Changes from v4? Do I mention them in the commit message, or do I have to have a cover letter for that?
<Turl> mrnuke: usually, after the commit message
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<mrnuke> after the "---"? Wouldn't that mess up git am's logic, make the patch not apply?
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<mripard> mrnuke: either in a cover letter, or after the --- in your patch
<mrnuke> OK. One more Q. Do I need to bump the v5 to v6 for this one?
<mripard> no, just do a resend
<mrnuke> OK
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<mripard> (don't forget to have RESEND in the prefix)
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<mrnuke> [RESEND PATCH v5] ?
<Turl> mrnuke: the other way round
<Turl> I think the spam filters look for [PATCH
<mrnuke> [PATCH RESEND v5] or [PATCH v5 RESEND] ?
<Turl> [PATCH RESEND v5]
<rm> I vote for [RESEND][PATCH v5]
<rm> :D
<mrnuke> rm: I'll go with Turl's advice just because I don't trust the FSF
* mrnuke runs for his life
<Turl> rm's format seems to be in use as well
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<mrnuke> ok. The Kraken has been released
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<mripard> mrnuke: perfect
<mrnuke> I got it right this time? Thanks for your patience, mripard.
<mripard> you're welcome
<mripard> don't worry, it's usual to miss some steps in the first patches
<mripard> I should have noticed them earlier
<mripard> the blame is on me :)
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<mrnuke> BTW, I've been using my cubie with this patch to flash SPI chips in-circuit (via flashrom)
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<isthatme> anyone have any experiece with the a10-olinuxino-LIME from Olimex?
<isthatme> more specifically, with getting hdmi hooked up...
<Dodger78> hi , is hansg updating the sunxi-test branch to 3.14 final ?
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<Turl> isthatme: what do you need help with?
<Turl> as far as I recall the lime has a normal HDMI connector
<isthatme> Turl: it either won't output anything
<isthatme> or the tv says 'format not supported'
<Turl> Dodger78: it'd probably make more sense to update it after -rc1, but you'd have to ask him
<Turl> isthatme: what software did you install on your card?
<isthatme> nothing, I used the base image they provided here
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<Turl> isthatme: so you downloaded that image and burned it into a sd card right?
<isthatme> yeah
<Turl> isthatme: can you give it a try on another monitor/tv?
<isthatme> I did
<isthatme> same thing
<Turl> I don't know if olimex hardcodes some specific video mode or not hm
<Turl> isthatme: do your displays support 720p/1080p?
<isthatme> yeah
<Turl> isthatme: get the card on your pc and mount the first partition
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<isthatme> I know the default setting is 720p@60Hz
<isthatme> the 17MB one?
<Turl> yeah, the first, small one
<isthatme> mounted
<isthatme> want me to paste the .fex file?
<Turl> no; do you se a uEnv.txt file?
<isthatme> yeah
<Turl> paste that
<isthatme> bootargs=console ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait sunxi_fb_mem_reserve=30 loglevel=8 panic=10
<isthatme> that's it
<Turl> ok
<Turl> add that to the end of that line
<Turl> hdmi.audio=EDID:0 disp.screen0_output_mode=EDID:1280x720p60
<Turl> this*
<isthatme> and try booting that?
<Turl> yeap
<isthatme> still not working
<Turl> ah meh, the image also has a boot.scr
<isthatme> Turl: ?
<Turl> isthatme: they also have a boot.scr that's overwriting the uEnv.txt config
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<Turl> get the card back on your pc and mount it again
<isthatme> okay
<isthatme> done
<Turl> isthatme: do you have mkimage installed?
<isthatme> from sunxi-tools or just a regular package?
<Turl> it's u-boot-tools package
<isthatme> okay
<Turl> or uboot-mkimage on some other distros
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<isthatme> now I have it installed
<Turl> ok
<Turl> now do
<Turl> strings boot.scr > boot.cmd
<Turl> edit boot.cmd and add the EDID: bit on the output mode
<Turl> then run mkimage -C none -A arm -T script -d boot.cmd boot.scr
<isthatme> errmm... boot.cmd already has the stuff in it
<Turl> yes, but without EDID: on the mode line
<Turl> change disp.screen0_output_mode=1280x720p50 -> disp.screen0_output_mode=EDID:1280x720p50
<isthatme> ooh
<libv> ssvb_: cool stuff
<Turl> (and you can change the default 50hz to 60hz, maybe that's what your monitor doesn't like)
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<isthatme> what the heck
<isthatme> it still doesn't work...
<isthatme> PAL/NTSC stuff shouldn't make a difference, right?
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<Turl> HDMI is digital, and those two are analog standards
<isthatme> yeah, I was just making sure, as a couple of people said that that might be affecting it
<Turl> isthatme: none of the two monitors work?
<Turl> are they monitors or HDTVs?
<isthatme> hdtvs
<isthatme> but it should be the same
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<isthatme> right?
<Turl> weird
<isthatme> hdmi is hdmi
<Turl> usually TVs support more formats
<isthatme> well, as of right now it's not doing anything
<Turl> isthatme: what brand btw?
<isthatme> the one it's hooked up to right now is an emerson, I also tried it on a samsung
<Turl> isthatme: does it still print the format not supported thing?
<Turl> or is it just black or something?
<isthatme> it's just black now
<Turl> it may be working then
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<Turl> get the card back on the pc and add console=tty0 on the bootargs line in boot.cmd
<Turl> then recompile with mkimage
<isthatme> okay
<isthatme> still nothing
<isthatme> this is weird
<Turl> isthatme: I ran out of ideas, other than looking for hints on the kernel log via serial
<Turl> try on the samsung tv again if you haven't already
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<isthatme> samsung doesn't work...
<isthatme> siigh
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<isthatme> it'sreally weird because they state that the image has hdmi support
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<oliv3r> ijc: fuck me. i just turned on fast_mbus and it looks like its going now ... been running constantly for 48 hours under '200%' load, so it cannot be a heat or power issue!
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<jemk> oliv3r: have you checked dcdc3 voltage? u-boot sets it to 1.3V if fast_mbus is enabled, but i measure 1.25v after kernel boot
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<jemk> looks like the kernel sets it back down, maybe thats your problem
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<oliv3r> jemk: excellent point
<oliv3r> but it 'seems' fine now
<oliv3r> where do you measure it?
<oliv3r> i wanna measure it too
<jemk> cubietruck has test points, the one between ethernet port and the inductor
<jemk> or somehow axp should also report this
<Turl> looks like it does grep -E 'script.*dcdc' linux-sunxi/drivers/power/axp_power/* -A5
<Turl> we may need to change the fex too
<oliv3r> so fast_mbus is useless!
<Turl> oliv3r: how so?
<Turl> oliv3r: the clock is changed :)
<oliv3r> but only in u-boot though
<oliv3r> i mean whtat'st he point in OCing the mbus; if the kenrel does its own thing
<jemk> the kernel keeps the higher clock, only the voltage jumps back
<jemk> changing fex keeps it at 1.3v...
<oliv3r> that sounds likely
<oliv3r> (to my prob)
<ssvb_> jemk: that's a nice catch
<jemk> when did fast_mbus got introduced? why nobody noticed this till now?
<Turl> oliv3r: the clock remains fast, but the kernel may be lowering the voltage
<Turl> jemk: it's been a while
<Turl> jemk: 4mo ago
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<Turl> jemk: it's only enabled on CB2/CT and Interra3 though
<Turl> (what's an Interra3?)
<jemk> i didn't notice it too, my truck runs rock solid at 1.25v
<oliv3r> jemk: nobdoy did proper stress tests?
<Turl> oliv3r: cubietech did
<Turl> (that's why it's only enabled on CB2/CT)
<Turl> oliv3r: they tested on 50 CB2
<ssvb_> jemk: I have just started a test with 480mhz dram clock and 1.3v dcdc3 on my truck, let's see if it can pass this now
<Turl> ssvb_: you were having issues as well?
<ssvb_> Turl: at 432mhz? nope
<oliv3r> i'm stupid
<oliv3r> i added fm to _FEL target
<jemk> ssvb_: if it passes, that would mean there is really a hardware limitation and not just wrong timing parameters i think
<oliv3r> BOOM crash
<oliv3r> fast_mbus kills mt CT
<oliv3r> (stock kernel)
<oliv3r> stock hansg kernel
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<jemk> oliv3r: and with dcdc3_vol=1300 in fex?
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<oliv3r> only changing the fex? good idea
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<Turl> oliv3r: no explosion yet?
<ssvb_> jemk: runs nicely so far, usually that would be already more than enough to break it
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<ssvb_> jemk: if it survives an overnight run, then it's very likely that we have finally found the reason why some percentage of a20 chips could not run dram at 480mhz
<oliv3r> nope
<oliv3r> not running it yet either
<Turl> oliv3r: :p
<oliv3r> BOOM
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<Turl> oliv3r: it works?
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<kenny> Is there any nightly build of u-boot, and hans/sunxi-devel?
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<ssvb_> oliv3r: have you ever tried to run https://github.com/ssvb/lima-memtester/ on your board?
<kenny> Turl: so the answer is no? :) It looks that way, I see only nightly builds of 3.4 that are recent
<Turl> mnemoc: ^^why isn't it updating?
<kenny> not hans though, right?
<kenny> Also is the ethernet driver the same between the CB2 and CB3?
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<Turl> kenny: he pushes it to linux-sunxi/sunxi-devel as well afaik
<Turl> kenny: CB2 can use either emac or gmac
<Turl> CB3 can only use gmac
<kenny> Turl: thanks. A couple ppl in #cubieboard are having ethernet issues in 3.4. I thought maybe testing a newer kernel could help point out if it's hardware or not.
<Turl> kenny: you do realise that anything other than 3.4 is not feature complete right?
<kenny> Turl: yes, it was just a test idea
<Turl> ok :) just making sure
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<kenny> Turl: have you seen many/any complaints about ethernet not working on CB3s? Any insight in to what it could be?
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<Turl> kenny: at all? not really
<Turl> kenny: most people's problems with ethernet tend to be lack of driver (ie, they didn't compile in/load the kernel driver), interface not up/configured, or bad cable
<kenny> they're both seeing: gmac_open: Cannot attach to PHY (-19)
<Turl> -19 is -ENODEV
<Turl> kenny: do you have a full log?
<kenny> no, but they're both still in the channel if you can offer any help. Did you want me to send them this way?
<kenny> isaac and skullcrasher are the nicks
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<libv> hrm. just ordered 4 sd cards. and i already feel like i have too few sd cards
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<Turl> libv: I have too few sd cards
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<libv> hrm. bugger. 1 card short indeed.
<libv> but then, i only need to have 1 a13 tablet which needs to regularly be checked
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<Turl> libv: have you been working on kms? :)
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<libv> Turl: it's been a week ago already, again.
<libv> i keep on rewriting the wiki
<libv> which reminds me, i was going to properly document the changed sunxi-mali build
<Turl> libv: I'm gonna have to lock your wiki user :p
<libv> which is how it started
<libv> :)
<WarheadsSE> hah
<Turl> libv: seriously though, if you keep slacking I'll lock you out for a week so you can concentrate ;)
<libv> :)
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