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<focus>
arokux2: I no understand how that could happen - may be i deleted the old one and copied a working one? I was doing so many things I wasn't keeping notes at the time
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<wingrime>
hipboi_: ping
<arokux1>
focus: yeah, of course, I understand. so you do not know which version is working?
<arokux1>
focus: this is however the same as in broken_usb.txt
<focus>
its possible i copied that back in after the broken one failed
<focus>
and forget to make mental note of it - so i don't remember
<arokux1>
focus: you do not git commit to your head?! :)
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<arokux1>
mnemoc: 9ee9fc5f0988df5677f0f142b5b88a8988d283d7 <---- this one is present in sunxi-3.4, but not in stage/sunxi-3.4.
<arokux1>
focus: let me ask you one more time, I'm not sure I've got it. I understand you copied and forget something, but in the end of the day you have shown me 9ee9fc5f0 two times. so my question is: is that a version where USB works?
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<focus>
arokux1: that is working usb - sorry for all the confusion
<arokux1>
focus: ok, however I have suspicious that this is not working one.. another user reported this as broken. so check again please another time when you can plugin a mouse of smth.
<focus>
arokux1: hmmm.... its possible something more complex is at work
<focus>
i check everything again this evening
<focus>
the stuff is in my home pc
<focus>
and netbook also stayed at home
<arokux1>
focus: ok, no problem, be sure to know which hash are you running. thanks.
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<n01>
mripard, Turl: ping for the patch
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<Turl>
n01: pong
<Turl>
n01: what patch?
<n01>
Turl: v2 RTC
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<Turl>
n01: didn't I review v1? :p
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<n01>
yes you did :) that's why I submitted v2
<Turl>
n01: ok then, I'll have a look this afternoon after I send v2 of the big clock series :p
<n01>
oh btw, can I query you?
<Turl>
sure
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<arokux1>
Turl: now I know how to organize the ehci/ohci code in mainline :)
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<Turl>
arokux1: :D
<arokux1>
Turl: what?? :p
<Turl>
arokux1: huh?
<arokux1>
<Turl> arokux1: :D
<Turl>
arokux1: what about it? :p
<Turl>
arokux1: that means you'll be sending ehci+ohci patches soon right? :)
<arokux1>
Turl: you asked about usb progress
<arokux1>
Turl: yeah!
<Turl>
arokux1: :D
<arokux1>
Turl: isn't it cool? :)
<Turl>
arokux1: yeah, that's why :D
<hipboi_>
wingrime: pong
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<arokux1>
hipboi_: do you know swift guys?
<hipboi_>
arokux1, no
<arokux1>
hipboi_: have they just cloned cb?
<hipboi_>
arokux1, their first is version not a cb clone
<hipboi_>
not sure why the second is like cb
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<Bunders_>
Sorry if this is a daft question but does anyone know if there is a way to sync Camera Sensor CSI_IF_B to an external clock of 28MHz or is the image source expected to sync to an Allwinner generated clock?
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<Bunders>
Can you just #define MCLK (28*1000*1000)?
<Bunders>
Even though the doc says "The unit of MCLK is Hz, and it is set to 24MHz or 12MHz"
<Bunders>
I would just try it and see what happens but I have no hardware.
<libv>
it's bad enough keeping the international howtos correct and up to date
<popolon>
That's not me that started to make translation...
<popolon>
ask to them :)
<popolon>
in my case this help me, a little, could help other, and help me to improve the documentation by first writing it in my native language
<popolon>
=> faster
<popolon>
and backport it after
<popolon>
french people are generally really bad in foreign language
<libv>
popolon: is google translate not able to help out there?
<popolon>
often google translate, translate by the inverse of the original meaning
<popolon>
that's a crap
<libv>
popolon: i am stating this as a belgian who has lived in germany for more than 6 years: it is time that the french adapt
<popolon>
the other time, it translated chinese word for search by english found....
<popolon>
libv, still need at least 20 years
<popolon>
the young generations start to learn foreign langauges younger now (english or chinese generally)
<libv>
the germans are bad at english, because they overdub everything (instead of using subtitles)
<libv>
but world politics of last century left them a bit less nationalistic
<popolon>
the same for french
<popolon>
the french are still too nationastic too, I suppose, and the level of education is more and more bad
<popolon>
1 teacher for about 40 students
<popolon>
in little school
<libv>
the french are worse than the germans, part of it is the still existent chauvinism, part of it is that french is a different language group
<popolon>
primary school
<popolon>
yes
<libv>
s/existent/existant/
<popolon>
and lot of french word are in english
<libv>
subtitles on the tv and in cinemas, that really changes everything
<popolon>
so there is lot of faux-amis and the impossibility for some to pronunce the english way, and then, the feeling they are really bad at languages and don't want to learn anymore
<popolon>
I agree, I look chinese TV/film with only chinese subtitles :D
<libv>
when i was about to watch the latest bond, and i met a friend, by accident, at the food court, i went into this usual rant of mine
<popolon>
sometime mandarin dubbing, but I don't like dubbing at all
<libv>
and i then had to ask him whether there are subtitles in the original versions of (some of) the films i watch here in nuernberg
<libv>
it doesn't register with me that they are there, or that they are missing
<popolon>
sometimes I fell that's easier for me than for chinese themself to understand mandarin dialects
<popolon>
even if my vocabulary is still low
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<libv>
and this is true for all small language groups
<libv>
popolon: so you are able to read chinese characters?
<popolon>
a little yes
<popolon>
not all ;)
<popolon>
and some really basic, I forgot everytime
<popolon>
really depend of my frenquency of usage
<libv>
spend your time with english please, it is pretty important today
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<popolon>
I know, but I'm already able to communicate in english
<popolon>
with lot of errors
<popolon>
and I prefer to learn chinese, that's far more important today
<libv>
then there is no need to fix up french howtos
<popolon>
for some other french people and myself there is still the need :)
<popolon>
that's my own resources anyway, and that's a method to continue to learn english , and if I make mistake in french, less people will notice them :))
<popolon>
I gone to germanic swiss two or three weeks ago
<libv>
imho it fragments howtos
<popolon>
I feel , like I meet more people that speak chinese, than french :)
<libv>
fixes are made to one, and never to another
<popolon>
false
<libv>
ok
<libv>
almost never
<popolon>
I backport if I feel that's really true
<libv>
popolon: is this what you vow to do for the rest of your days?
<popolon>
and that's the easier method to do things
<libv>
go through recentchanges all the time?
<popolon>
no, I really want to translate in chinese too
<popolon>
but most of wiki wasn't updated since 6 month :)
<popolon>
at least I updated some informations... in english version
<popolon>
by translating them
<popolon>
in fact, I feel there is really the need of refactoring the organization
<popolon>
of the wiki
<popolon>
but that's probably too much work
<libv>
by turning it into the wiki of babel?
<popolon>
like debian article containing the most of interesting compilation things
<popolon>
and other distro nothing, even if that's about the same method
<libv>
that's a tightrope walk
<libv>
make it too generic, and you will miss out on important specificities
<popolon>
I work on french wikipedia since about 2005, and a really little, on english, chinese, japanese and really little little to korean vesions, since
<popolon>
libv, you are probably true
<libv>
it will also make it too daunting to read or follow then
<popolon>
but building the kernel and common kernel rules
<popolon>
are the same on all the systems for example
<libv>
that's true
<popolon>
should be easier to have a full generic kernel building
<libv>
this is a technical wiki though
<popolon>
with some details depending on distro => gcc version, or other ?
<libv>
it's not about supporting the minorities who fail to grasp the technical english that goes with it
<libv>
yes, like this one broken linaro toolchain
<libv>
... that killed the kernel
<popolon>
didn't know ?
<popolon>
which one ?
<libv>
was like a year ago
<popolon>
ok
<popolon>
and there are detail about installing ppa for linaro toolchain on wiki
<popolon>
but since 13.04 ubuntu, linaro is in default repositories
<popolon>
si I suppose article was made and never updated since ~13.03
<popolon>
I have my cubieboard(2) since only 1 or 2 month
<popolon>
1month 1/2
<popolon>
and only HDD full of bad sectors :)
<popolon>
and unable to use nand, on my compiled kernels
<libv>
is this bad sectors something that happened just now?
<libv>
or was that before?
<popolon>
few days after starting to use them
<popolon>
in fact, I know that that hdd as bad sector for long time
<popolon>
I formated with option to avoid them
<libv>
ok
<libv>
scrounge a new one from somewhere
<libv>
"newer" even
<popolon>
someone give me another hdd (a bigger one) saturday
<popolon>
but it doesn't seem to work with my external case, so need to boot on µSD to do anything :)
<libv>
my cousin had a usb hd enclosure about 8 years ago
<popolon>
if at least it work
<libv>
with a via controller in it, and a stabilizer ic in it which was faulty
<libv>
and which became very very hot
<libv>
the disk would power up, write a few sectors, then lose power
<popolon>
no the errors are on the cb2 itself
<libv>
after a bit, the harddisk was full of bad sectors
<popolon>
and ... some kernel are so buggy, than they made more error than real one
<popolon>
I used my bad sector-ed hdd on a shuttle
<popolon>
atom shuttle, I suppose power supply was not good
<popolon>
and my building has very bad electricity network, with some fires beginned 2 years ago, lot of bulf failure
<libv>
whereas these sectors weren't bad at all, their checksum just failed, and the controller just marked them as bad
<libv>
iirc, the controller would only end up trying to reuse them in extreme situations
<popolon>
so could be another reason for bad sectors
<libv>
it was explained somewhere on the net
<libv>
together with a means to tell the controller to re-evaluate its bad blocks list
<libv>
i think i just hooked that same disk to my odroid, but i am not entirely certain, as i have a few of the same brand/size that i used to kit out my vast via unichrome hw collection with
<libv>
ah, seems like there are even specific scsi commands for this
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<steev>
ssvb: are you able to build webkit-gtk on your cb2?
<ssvb>
steev: have not tried
<steev>
okay, that's the only package i've come across so far that gives me issues. the gtk2 version builds fine, but trying to build 2.2.0 doesn't want to work
<steev>
attempting another buidl at the moment, hopefully i'll have a log in a few hours
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<wingrime>
ssvb: have we some heavy test for ensure ddr operates correctly?
<ssvb>
steev: how does it fail?
<steev>
ssvb: something about forward definitions, iirc
<steev>
oh wait
<wingrime>
steev: you have swap?
<steev>
wingrime: yes
<ssvb>
wingrime: I was just running glmark2-es2 and memtester at the same time, and if memtester starts reporting memory corruption, then we can be sure that we have a problem
<ssvb>
steev: does it build on some other hardware?
<steev>
i dare not test, tbh
<steev>
it requires pulling in and using systemd
<wingrime>
ssvb: downgrade ddr speed helped?
<steev>
give it a few hours guys, sheesh
<steev>
the build will fail eventually and i'll have the log
<wingrime>
ssvb: we anyway need more statistical data for make decision
<ssvb>
steev: also you can always re-run the failed gcc command line and add -save-temps option
<steev>
ssvb: yes, except that i already blew away the portage dir
<ssvb>
steev: that will give you a preprocessed source, which can be used for tests
<ssvb>
wingrime: as for the dram clock speed on cubieboard2, mine is overclockable to 552MHz (also with mbus at 552MHz) and everything seems to work except for the SD card :)
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<ssvb>
wingrime: and no problems at all at 480MHz
<wingrime>
ssvb: you tryed change mmc divider?
<ssvb>
wingrime: no
<arokux2>
mnemoc: ping
<wingrime>
ssvb: mmc protocol have command timings / so mmc card simply not expect so hi datarate (maybe comparea mmc speed? with different divider/freq) also you card must have class "6" ?
<wingrime>
ssvb: about tpr0 / tpr1 / tpr2 - thats timings between ddr3 commands (more precisely than cas and speed)
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<wingrime>
who knows how I can talk with wills wang?
<arokux2>
wingrime: do you have hackberry?
<wingrime>
no
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<arokux2>
focus: ping
<focus_it>
hi arokux2
<focus_it>
i just get results of checking
<focus_it>
the netbook (old working kernet) and main pc (new not working kernel) both have same git show messages!
<focus_it>
yet the main home PC directory is dated 19 october - so i must have downloaded on saturday
<focus_it>
when creating the .config file, i enabled far too many things to create a mega kernel - but it could not compile.
<focus_it>
after each effort, i dropped the offending module and recompiled until i got something that worked
<focus_it>
but that kernel looks as if it doesn't allow the usb to power up on an A20 cpu
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<arokux2>
thanks focus_it, I'll have a look tomorrow.
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<steev>
ssvb: ugh, disregard (for now) - now i remember - it's because they a) force disable egl/gles2, b) force enable accelerated-compositing, and c) allow webgl to be disabled, but accelerated compositing requires css shaders which requires webgl