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<naobsd> lol
<naobsd> there are 2 RK3288 datasheets, on dl.radxa.com and on bitbucket/t-firefly
<naobsd> in radxa's, it says rev1.0 may 2014 in first page, but from page53, it says rev0.4 ;)
<naobsd> in firefly's, it also says rev1.0 Jan 2014 in all page
<naobsd> both says "initial release"
<naobsd> May ver. says core is A17, Jan ver. says core is A12
<naobsd> interesting ;)
<amstan> naobsd: don't get me started on that, lol
<naobsd> oh, firefly's says datasheet in 1st page, but it says TRM in header in every page :)
<naobsd> hard to understand Rockchip's crypto!
<naobsd> I wanted to know core voltage and temperature in operation
<naobsd> min voltage seems to be 0.9v
<naobsd> and temp is... -40 - +125 C ? oh...
<naobsd> I shouldn't touch it...
<amstan> naobsd: I haven't found that it gets very hot
<amstan> I'm mostly running mine without a heatsink
<naobsd> I saw that tsadc says 80C+ while under load
<naobsd> unfortunately
<amstan> Right... i guess we're not clocking it very much yet i guess
<naobsd> CPU is at bottom side in my box :(
<amstan> and... 2 "i guess"es
<naobsd> I removed top side of box to access uart
<naobsd> there is no space for heatsink under board :(
<naobsd> and I'm not sure how to remove case completely... wifi antenna is connected thru a hole
<naobsd> it's plastic, I can break it, but...
<srao> we're calling it a12 in the kernel, esp since that's what the chip says it is in the ID register
<srao> amstan: yeah we're running relatively slow still, but you can make it warm if you fire up all cores and crank up the clocks/volts
<naobsd> srao: yes, I saw ID in cpuinfo
<amstan> srao: ohai, different nick this time?
<naobsd> even if doc or another material says it's A17, it's A12 for software ;)
<srao> amstan: oh yeah, this is my actual registered freenode nick... I finally got irccloud up and going and it will remember my info,
<amstan> naobsd: you should ask srao about that compile option
<srao> I'm not even sure what the differences between a17 and a12 actually are, it sounded like bug fixes
<naobsd> oh, srao is also chromium person
<srao> yeah
<naobsd> srao: nice to meet you :)
<naobsd> amstan: only gcc4.9 and later supports -mcpu=cortex-a12
<srao> naobsd: hi, same to you. What do you work on? All rockchip stuff?
<naobsd> I'm not a member of any development group/project
<naobsd> I'm using Rockchip (Android) devices since RK2808A
<naobsd> and doing some small work: https://github.com/naobsd/ http://androtab.info/
<srao> cool
<srao> so far their chips seem nice and simple relative to others I've worked on, a good thing
<srao> I haven't seen a lot of actual data on the a12/a17 micro architecture, but it was derived from cortex a9
<srao> so I'd guess compiling for A9 would be okay
<naobsd> sadly most people just have interest about "can I see HD videos on (name of major distro) on rockchip?", so it's not good chip for them ;)
<naobsd> I guessed A15 is better, but I didn't try benchmark etc yet
<amstan> can't the rk3288 play hd video?
<naobsd> sorry, (name of major _Linux_ distro)
<amstan> I don't see what linux has to do with it
<amstan> the drivers perhaps?
<naobsd> in other words "is hardware decoder working? on Linux"
<amstan> What's stopping you from taking the android kernel and using it in your own distro?
<naobsd> there is kernel driver, but userland library does real work for VPU
<amstan> i see
<naobsd> like Mali
<srao> a12/a17 is probably slower clock for clock against a15
<srao> but uses much less power
<srao> re video decode, I don't know if any popular linux media players support openmax, but that's probably the easiest way to get accelerated video decode
<naobsd> instruction sets should be same as a15, so -march=cortex-a15 will be good
<naobsd> no idea about -mtune
<naobsd> Rockchip only provides binary blobs for Android
<naobsd> libc and softfp/hardfp difference
<naobsd> libhybris is one of answer
<naobsd> ah
<srao> i was suggesting -mtune=cortex-a9
<naobsd> probably userland library for Mali for chromeos can be used on Linux too
<srao> Mali is for 3d graphics, not for video decode though
<naobsd> yes, I'm sure
<naobsd> and I wanted to ask "is VPU working on chromeos/rockchip?" :)
<naobsd> CPU is fast, software decoding will be fine for some HD videos
<srao> i don't think we've started looking at that yet
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<naobsd> and software decoding and rendering video frames to GL surface may be enough, but it uses CPU
<naobsd> existing "Linux for Rockchip" doesn't use any hardware accelerator include 2D :(
<naobsd> decoding, color space conversion, drawing are done by CPU
<srao> hopefully at least 2d will work on mainline kernels at some point in the near future
<naobsd> I hope so. what I talked is about RK3188 and older
<srao> ah ok, not sure how similar the 2d on 3288 is vs 3188... we're only looking at 3288
<srao> it might be pretty similar, 2d stuff tends to not change much
<naobsd> I think there are new units related to 2d/video
<naobsd> RGA2 and I...
<naobsd> anyway
<naobsd> it's very nice that so many guys are working for rk3288 :)
<naobsd> rk3288 uses 3.10 kernel with dts/dtb
<naobsd> hacking random rk3288 products on market is relatively easy (compared to rk3188 and older)
<naobsd> I want to try chromium os too :)
<naobsd> (lets do community thing 1st...)
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<srao> not sure if you've heard of crouton, but that will let you run an ubuntu chroot inside chrome os
<srao> with graphics sound, etc
<naobsd> interesting, but I have to learn how to run/use chromium os on rockchip at 1st :)
<naobsd> sorry, I have to leave here now
<naobsd> see you later!
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<naobsd> http://muritzy.tistory.com/820 HTC-T032-V1.2 board seems good too
<naobsd> but I will not buy any RK3288 product for consumer anymore. I'm waiting dev board :)
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<rperier> hi all
<naobsd> hi
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<karlp> that cloudnetgo box has the same odd choice of a fullsize usb a port being used for OTG.
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<naobsd> karlp: oh I missed it :(
<naobsd> I have A-A cable, but I don't like it ;)
<karlp> yeah, I don't like it either, my minix neo x5 mini does the same thing, it's not pretty.
<karlp> to try and stop things blowing up, it always puts the port back in host mode when it boots, you have to set a checkbox in android and reboot to get it to device mode,
<karlp> (or hold down the reset button at boot)
<naobsd> yup, no ID pin :(
<rperier> mmind00: done ;)
<naobsd> return to home...
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