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<woss>
hi guys! do you have anywhere calculations on how much would cost hosting the ipfs cluster. i'
<woss>
i would like to contribute to the network but also I'd like to know the cost
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<voker57>
depends on what you will be pinning
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<ZerXes>
woss: what are you planning to host specifically?
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<swedneck3>
just running a node is enough to contribute afaik, you don't even have to pin anything
<swedneck3>
ofc pinning some stuff is even better though :P
<ZerXes>
will a node really get any content it does not ask for?
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<woss>
ZerXes the project that i am working on should have its own ipfs cluster for the use of the project, mostly videos, photos and Blockchain related statements. I was wondering in general how can i(we) help the IPFS network in general, what kind of nodes should we run, what would be best content to pin, how much would cost, since the business side
<woss>
NEED cost estimations
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<woss>
swedneck3 thanks for the answer. lets say hosting the node without the actual datastore would work as a relay to speed up the discovery?
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<swedneck3>
uh, not sure
<woss>
:) seems i have not done my homework :)
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<eleitlDiscord[m]>
I've noticed that there's a sawtooth pattern in the number of ipfs swarm peers over time.
<eleitlDiscord[m]>
It creeps up to 1.2 k, then suddenly collapses to about half that. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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<eleitlDiscord[m]>
This doesn't strike me as normal behavior. Any idea what is going on?
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<eleitlDiscord[m]>
E.g. 1240 -> 598 within one second.
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<eleitlDiscord[m]>
1327 -> 605 again.
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<aLeSD>
hi all. Is there any release date for the next version ?
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<voker57>
lol releases
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<bonedaddyDiscord>
eleitl that's your connection manager
<bonedaddyDiscord>
@aLeSD probably never
<bonedaddyDiscord>
Jk maybe 2-5 months. The latest release issue in the go-ipfs GitHub says that until the badgerv2 version is considered stable by the team they will not be cutting a new release
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<dgold>
does ipds need that amount of RAM for a small, say 250kb, page?
<JorropoDiscord[m>
not much
<JorropoDiscord[m>
less than 1gb
<bonedaddyDiscord>
@dgold regardless of how much data you're storing your ipfs node will generally need about half GB of RAM
<bonedaddyDiscord>
However if you have that little RAM you probably need to run in dht client mode or you'll OOM
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<dgold>
bonedaddyDiscord: ok - where's this in docs? I am unaware, and smol.
<bonedaddyDiscord>
Like most things it's not 🤣
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<dgold>
ok - is there somewhere I can learn how to "run in dht client mode"?
<dgold>
not really much point in doing that when the point is to get the information out from a box, though, is there?
<dgold>
i'm still kind of astounded that serving a 250kb page requires 1GB of RAM; that's just completely unsustainable, both on cash cost and environmental cost
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<bonedaddyDiscord>
dgold: it's not htat serving a 250kb page requires that much RAM, it's just that `go-ipfs` is that memory hungry
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<dgold>
I understand that.
<dgold>
I’m just saying I think, to purloin a phrase “That’s mad, Ted”
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<bonedaddyDiscord>
you could look into `hsanjuan/ipfs-lite` if you just want to serve some content
<bonedaddyDiscord>
although that doesn't have a geway
<bonedaddyDiscord>
* although that doesn't have a gateway
<bonedaddyDiscord>
but for that you can check out `lanzafame/ipfs-gateway-lite` i think
<lanzafame>
Eehh you could but I wouldn't recommend using lanzafame/ipfs-gateway-lite it is just a poc at this point
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<hsanjuan>
dgold: what consumes the ram is not serving a webpage, but being a good citizen of a huge distributed network, which involves helping many others navigate it... wondering how much improved memory consumption you get in dht-client mode and reducing the connection manager high_water setting