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<deltab> ctOS: also NixOS, an OS based on immutable packages identified by hashes: https://sourcediver.org/blog/2017/01/18/distributing-nixos-with-ipfs-part-1/
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> when using --progress with ipfs pin, what does the progress mean
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ie
<darkdrgn2k[m]> `Fetched/Processed 107573 nodes
<darkdrgn2k[m]> `
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<lgierth> how many nodes of the whole dag have been fetched already
<lgierth> and they get pinned right away as they arrive
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> any idea to know how many nodes total
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<lgierth> only once you have all nodes :)
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<DarkDragon[m]> i would still love ot know why its pushing almost as much as its receiveing
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<Swedneck> it would be incredibly nice to convince linux distros to switch to ipfs, i can see it bringing some insane performance benefits
<Swedneck> it's almost the perfect use case for ipfs
<xpitr> for package manager?
<xpitr> because actual .isos most of the time already have official torrent
<Swedneck> yeah, packages is what they were talking about just a couple messages ago
<xpitr> that'd be cool and quite easy
<Swedneck> although distributing the ISOs on ipfs would also be nice, shouldn't be much extra effort
<Swedneck> it also brings up how i wish torrent applications would integrate ipfs
<brtknr> thats a cool idea
<brtknr> similar to how nixes has hashes for different versions of a package
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<brtknr> nixes*
<brtknr> /s/nixes/nixos
<Swedneck> i wonder if it would be possible to make torrent applications automatically find ipfs hashes for torrents
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<xpitr> you could use webseeds for seeding from ipfs
<xpitr> but its quite pointless i guess
<Swedneck> well if transmission could just discover ipfs hashes based on torrents, it could automatically request it from the network and benefit from both torrents and ipfs at the same time
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<Swedneck> if nothing else, it could publish it on ipfs according to the standard seeding settings
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<r0kk3rz> only if it was added to ipfs using bencoding
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<r0kk3rz> and hashed with sha1
<r0kk3rz> which is doable, probably not even that hard
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<ctOS> does anyone offer a long-term hosting service for IPFS? like what hashbase.io provides for DAT.
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<ctOS> voker57: thanks! but, hm, they don’t have a ToS or anything resembling a service contract.
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<voker57> yeah it's rather rudimental
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<xpitr> why are those services so expensive
<xpitr> you can get 50gb SSD VPS for $3/mo and pin whatever you like
<voker57> how much bandwidth and RAM would such VPS have?
<xpitr> usually unlimited bandwidth, and probably ~2gb ram
<Lann[m]> how about CPU speed?
<voker57> send me link to such offer plz
<xpitr> you can register with google cloud and get $300 free credit for a year and go nuts too
<r0kk3rz> and i thought hetzner was cheap
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<xpitr> https://www.scaleway.com/pricing/ hm a bit diff prices, 2 eur for 25gb/1gb and 4 eur for 50/2 (and 2 cores)
<Lann[m]> you can get 50gb SSD VPS for $3/mo and pin whatever you like
<Lann[m]> but I agree to some extent to get it running as cheap as possible. Using hosted Docker also another option.
<xpitr> ok sorry, 25gb then to fit within $3 :)
<voker57> well it's probably lack of competition, feel free to start your own service and price them out of the market
<r0kk3rz> or conversely a lack of interest
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<Lann[m]> <freenode_r0k "or conversely a lack of interest"> Agreed. file hosting like S3 is more than enough. Some offer free static hosting like netlify.
<r0kk3rz> imo if you want to pin stuff just abuse cloudflares gateway
<xpitr> and still, get $300 credit from google, thats a full year for free :)
<ctOS> I have a few small files that I want to ensure long-term availability for. Pinbits promises to make a 12 KB file available for over 2000 years for just 5 USD. So, … I guess that qualifies.
<ctOS> r0kk3rz: you mean setup one of those free uptime monitoring tools to pull an url through cloudflare’s gateway every five minutes?
<xpitr> also both google and amazon have free tiers. a shitty slow vps, but 100% free
<ctOS> For the first year or so, yes.
<DarkDragon[m]> interesting... when i limited the tx bandwith the rx bandwith dropped quite a bit too
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<Lann[m]> Cloudflare can cache a file on its edge for how long?
<ctOS> Lann[m]: until storage is filled up with something else
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<Mayeu> xpitr: don't forget that you also have to ensure the data will survive, so it must also be redundant, then you have to factor the price of the maintenance, monitoring, time consumed to act in case of issue, dealing with the customer, marketing and promoting the service etc.
<Mayeu> I don't say you can't be cheaper, just that a business can't "just run a cheap VM" :)
<xpitr> yeah but somehow i doubt those ipfs pinning websites do any of that :P
<xpitr> the first one linked doesn't even work since july
<ctOS> hashbase.io seems legit enough? for DAT and not IPFS, however.
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<ctOS> oh, you were thinking of pinbits.io. yeah, that one does look a bit sketchy.
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<Mayeu> ctOS: hashbase.io is legit yeah
<Mayeu> xpitr: that, I don't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<KwukDuck> If i´m downloading a file from a single peer and lose connection to it, can i resume the transfer at a later point if the connection gets reestablished again?
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<JCaesar> KwukDuck_: usually yes.
<JCaesar> your node will cache the blocks.
<JCaesar> so unless you ran the gc...
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<Swedneck> 🤔
<lgierth> can't read emojis here
<Swedneck> it just sends the name inside colons, right?
<ToxicFrog> Swedneck: no, it sends the actual emoji character.
<lgierth> no, just a question mark here
<ToxicFrog> Which just renders as a ? or box if the receiver doesn't have the right fonts installed.
<ToxicFrog> (for the record, that was U+1F914 THINKING FACE)
<lidel> i just realized I've been unconsciously selecting squares in terminal and pasting them into firefox location bar to see the emoji
<Swedneck> huh
<lidel> for at least six months xD
<lidel> CANNOT BE UNSEEN
<ToxicFrog> lidel: I've been using amp-what.com, since, aggravatingly, I have the same fonts installed on my personal and corp machines but the emoji only work on the personal machines.
<lidel> that is a handy website
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<ctOS> irccloud.com can show emojis :)
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<ctOS> webui.ipfs.io question. How can I have both 39 peer connections in total and also 49 in the USA alone? Screenshot /ipfs/QmRU49EmSBCW5iuFigakTYCR3Q472qhmdza8JbuUy2WhMa
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<lidel> :D
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<lidel> ctOS, afaik new webui is caching a lot of things to save resources, it probably painted pie chart using data from the cache of seen peers. It probably should detect that current count is smaller than one in cache and force refresh
<lidel> ctOS, mind filling issue at https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-webui/issues/? screenshot + above description should be enough :)
<lidel> awesome, thanks!
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<ctOS> Ah. Humans! I can see humans fetching my files. The web UI is a nice visual aid to help people get overexcited about IPFS. 👍
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<lidel> olizilla will be happy to read that ---^ :))
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<Swedneck> how does the twitter ipfsbot get content to post?
<Swedneck> from discuss.ipfs.io?
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<Swedneck> btw, please upvote this issue so linkifyjs (and by extension riot.im) can get support for ipfs://, ipns://, and dweb:/ https://github.com/SoapBox/linkifyjs/issues/212
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<ctOS> Speaking of URI protocols … why doesn’t IPFS use URNs? urn:ipfs:<hash> — 1994 standards not good enough these days?
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<lgierth> because unix paths rock
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<ctOS> sure, but they don’t work well with browsers or anything useful. :P
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<r0kk3rz> yeah its a neat and pointless hack :)
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<lidel> dweb:/ipfs/QmbWqxBEKC3P8tqsKc98xmWNzrzDtRLMiMPL8wBuTGsMnR works in my firefox ;-^-)
<Swedneck> >tfw beaker has significantly less dweb support than firefox
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<ctOS> lidel: doesn’t it just redirect to the local gateway URL?
<ctOS> Swedneck: "dweb support" – as in the URI scheme? or the concept
<Swedneck> the concept
<lidel> ctOS, for now ;-)
<Swedneck> but the uri scheme too, firefox is the only one with ipfs://, ipns://, and dweb:/ support iirc
<ctOS> any work being done on getting firefox to remain on those URIs without redirecting to the gateway?
<Swedneck> oh yeah i didn't think about that
<lidel> Swedneck, working on it, chromium got onboard recently with the idea: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/3935
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<lidel> ctOS, it is an experimental API, we are working on getting it into firefox nightly at some point in the future
* ctOS uses Firefox nightly
<Swedneck> related: when will ipfs support symlinks?
<ctOS> ipns?
<Swedneck> file symlinks
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<Swedneck> "ipfs cat /ipfs/QmaQYL7UXoV1m9m1mKQQj8q9XtprHYhBGdqXrymURKKDCA/symlink: cannot currently read symlinks"
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<djdv> my terminal is not happy with emoji input at all í±Œí±Œí±Œ https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmeoVNTtGJDV83egB24tWJH6HPujsGbsW22KKWj9fzb9vt/licecap.gif
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<ctOS> UTF-16 is the future. Get with the program.
<djdv> it's the only way to support world-WIDE communication
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<JCaesar> Swedneck: I poked stebalien about that a while ago, leading to a few more comments on the related github issue… No idea whether there was any progress.
<asymptotically> djdv: what tool are you using to enter emojis like that?
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<djdv> asymptotically: some Windows component, likely IME (win+; then you type the name of the emoji)
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<deltab> djdv: try that again using hd (or hexdump, xxd, or od -t x1)
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<deltab> that character is UTF-8: f0 9f 91 8c UTF-16BE: d83ddc4c
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<deltab> I see the 8c there (the inverse L), not sure about the rest
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<djdv> deltab: I'm not sure at what layer it's failing at. I'm running irssi inside of ConEmu and I think ConEmu may be at fault here, but I'm not actually sure.
<djdv> waiting on projects like Alacritty before I investigate anything
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<carsonfarmer[m]> hi all, trying to add a large folder of data from browser (js-ipfs). what's the best way to do this? i tried reading all files and creating an array of {path, content} object as suggested here: https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/FILES.md#filesadd
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<carsonfarmer[m]> but keep running into message length errors "Message length exceeded maximum allowed length."
<carsonfarmer[m]> easy to add each file one at a time, but how to combine them into single DAG and get hash at top?
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<carsonfarmer[m]> i tried using the MFS, but in the browser, this seems 'wrong'? (and frankly, i keep getting:
<carsonfarmer[m]> `Error: cp: cannot put node in path /dapps/http/localhost%3A8000/file/path.txt: file does not exist
<carsonfarmer[m]> where i'm using the /ipfs/hash to reference the from, and to is /file/path.txt (for example)
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<lidel> carsonfarmer[m], check https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-share-files, it basically does what you want (upload multiple files and create DAG with all of them)
<lidel> note it is work-in-progress, so YMMV :)
<carsonfarmer[m]> that's awesome, thanks lidel!
<carsonfarmer[m]> just what i needed
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<lidel> carsonfarmer[m], kinda related, are you adding to js-ipfs (full node) or js-ipfs-api (http client) ?
<lidel> s/to/with/
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<lidel> carsonfarmer[m], in case you ever have weird issues with adding over http api, check https://github.com/ipfs/in-web-browsers/issues/115 (known issues + status of fixes/workarounds)
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<carsonfarmer[m]> full node lidel
<carsonfarmer[m]> but that's a super useful link
<carsonfarmer[m]> well, actually i guess its not full node, because i'm using window.ipfs-fallback
<lidel> carsonfarmer[m], yeah so this is where things get fuzzy. window.ipfs could be backed by go-ipfs accessed by ipfs-companion over http api ;)
<carsonfarmer[m]> yeh
<carsonfarmer[m]> actually, kinda surprized i haven't run into most of these issues in that meta ticket :P
<carsonfarmer[m]> i've run into a few inconsistencies between the various options, especially around pubsub and some of the newer features... but that's what i get for playing on the bleeding edge right ;)
<lidel> some of them are very very rare edge cases, but I am keeping my eye to ensure we address them eventually :)
<lidel> (and companion usually applies workarounds where possible, so people with it installed never experience those errors)
<carsonfarmer[m]> nice
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<svitx> Hi! I'm finding that the portion of the ipfs daemon which handles 'pin rm' jams up when I try to delete a pin I don't have, or I try to delete a few pins in a row, say beyond ~5-10. I then have to restart the daemon before I can add or unpin anything futher.
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<svitx> Is there some logging I can enable to trace what's amiss?
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