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<kpcyrd> I'm migrating ipfs.ink due to issues with my old hoster, I'm transfering the data with `ipfs pin ls | grep recursive | awk '{print $1}'` and `xargs ipfs pin add --progress`. works nicely.
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<kpcyrd> mybe as a note, I'm getting around 15MBps on peaks both on network and disk before the CPU is maxed out, which seems to be the bottleneck when doing this
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<agrawalritesh> Hi, I would like to know can I use ipfs in production environment? As mentioned on github "In February of 2015, the go-ipfs implementation was released as an "Alpha Distribution". Since then, go-ipfs has been making regular releases on the road towards Beta", is beta state yet to be release?
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<xxxppp> website for zeronet test: https://www.xiaopao.tk guest guest
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<lgierth> kpcyrd: you can do `ipfs pin ls -t recursive`, then it doesn't have to scan through all blocks in the pins, and you can use `ipfs refs -r` to fetch in parallel before pinning
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<dav> hi
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<dav> hi, I've published a directory with 5 pages of my website. Then I did and it works. So I've modified only one page. How can i update only that page ? I've to re-publish the entire directory? thanks.
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<victorbjelkholm> dav: yeah, usually you don't send people the hash directly but via either IPNS or DNS (which you can update). So having DNS pointing to the latest hash, then everytime you update something, you re-add everything (IPFS only really re-adds new things as the old things you already have added) and get a new hash. Update your DNS entry with that hash and your visitors see the new post
<victorbjelkholm> relevant is our page for examples as well, scan through them as they contain some useful information: https://ipfs.io/docs/examples/
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<datafatmunger> daviddias: thanks again for the link to the examples you passed me on /r/ipfs, i also peeped the youtube video. i'm just curious how you retrieved your test data...the raw ethereum blocks (i'm just geth which stores blocks in leveldb), and the git objects (my commit own commit objects don't seem to work)?
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<kpcyrd[m]> lgierth: Nice! I found -t later, which was much faster. I’m going to keep these in mind
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<daviddias> datafatmunger_ We use a version of Parity that js-ipfs can connect to https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/763
<daviddias> as for the git objects. they should work. vmx can help you with that
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<vmx> datafatmunger_, daviddias: to be honest, i've never tried to use git objects myself
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<vmx> but i can certainly have look
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<datafatmunger_> daviddias and vmx thank you for the replies. vmx: i'm just grabbing a git commit object from .git/objects and swapping it in to https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/blob/master/examples/traverse-ipld-graphs/git.js
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<datafatmunger_> basically doing a git log, having a look at the hash ... then grabbing it out of the directory.
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<vmx> datafatmunger_: js-ipfs has a lot of layers. could you try it with one layer less, directly with https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld ?
<datafatmunger_> sorry, not sure what you mean?
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<daviddias> datafatmunger_ I think the step you are missing is adding those git objects/blocks to IPFS
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<distrodan> can you update/push a file on IPFS while keeping the same hash for it?
<Bat`O> distrodan: no, the hash depend on the content
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<distrodan> ok thanks Bat`O, so ipns is the correct way to track a file that can be updated
<distrodan> ?
<Bat`O> yes
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<distrodan> could anyone clarify "First, you can do a simple DNS TXT record..." from https://ipfs.io/docs/examples/example-viewer/example#../websites/README.md
<distrodan> actually never mind, I think i worked out my problem
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<datafatmunger> vmx & daviddias i realized the folly of my earlier attempts of the ipld git tutorial was that the files in the git-objects directory of the example have already been decompressed via zlib ... i should have cat'd those files hours ago, but since they have hash names i assumed they came strait out of .git/objects :-P
<daviddias> datafatmunger: oh, that should be part of the README of the example. Wanna add that step?
<vmx> datafatmunger: do i understand correctly that git objects or compressed by default and you need to uncompress them before you use them with ipfs/ipld?
<datafatmunger> yes they are compressed by default ...
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<datafatmunger> and need to be decompressed before the tutorial
<datafatmunger> the plugin method i used from magik6k, however ... does do the zlib step
<datafatmunger> ipfs dag put -f git --input-enc zlib .git/objects/7d/df2..
<datafatmunger> in any case: cat df25817f57c2090a9568cdb17106a76dad7d04 | zlib-flate -uncompress > gitobject
<datafatmunger> will give a text file format that works with your tutorial
<singpolyma> I'm a bit confused about IPLD addressing... how does ipfs dag get know that a given hash is sha1 vs anything else?
<Magik6k> singpolyma: the hashes contain that info themselves: https://github.com/ipld/cid#how-does-it-work---protocol-description
<singpolyma> Oh, ok. So you don't use the git hashes directly still, but a format that wraps them
<singpolyma> and I guess the benefit vs rehashing to "normal" IPFS multihash is that you can still try to fetch content you have normal git sha1 for without knowing anything else?
<datafatmunger> daviddias i'll try to make a pr for the readme
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<Magik6k> singpolyma: correct
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<datafatmunger> soooo...if i can quickly jump back to ethereum blocks...seems there is some "flexibility" in accepted ipld input formats and methods? So if I want to get ethereum geth blocks into ipld, and geth exports blocks in json format is it not just enough to mutate that json into whatever spec is correct for ethereum in ipld?
<Kubuxu> datafatmunger: ipld format for ethereum is the encoded format (I forgot what it was called), I can't recall if we have JSON importer for them.
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<datafatmunger> kubuxu: i'm not sure what "the encoded format" is? seems, i could be wrong, but parity and geth store the blockchain different ways
<Kubuxu> it is the on chain format
<Kubuxu> ahh, there is JSON importer
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<haad> whyrusleeping: re. 1on1, we don't have direct (libp2p) streams in js-ipfs-api, see here https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-pubsub-room/issues/28
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<MikeFair> Can one use ed25519 keys for IPNS addresses?
<MikeFair> Or asking a different question; using IPLD can I register the format to be stored in an arbitrary block hash address
<MikeFair> Specifically I'd like to create a new namesapce I guess for 256bit addresses
<MikeFair> Specifically I'd like to create a new namesapce I guess for 256bit addresses (chcecksums of content)
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<MikeFair> I've been thinking about resolving DNS over IPFS and my favorite methods start with "hash the string into a checksum or CID first"
<MikeFair> then look that up
<MikeFair> and get an IPNS like record that refers to another CID
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<MikeFair> The separators in each piece of the string creates a chain of authority to determine who has permission to update that record
<MikeFair> So unlike IPNS where the public key address is fixed, there is another association that gets looked up to determine what IPNS key has permission/privileges to update that entry
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<whyrusleeping> haad: ooooooh, i see
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<marbar> hello all! thanks for your awesome stuff, much appreciated. does anyone know how to derive a dtube video thumbnail from a link to the video?
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<MikeFair> marbar, I can't say specifically but you can like get the list of CIDs for the blocks and look at the first few
<MikeFair> I'm assuming you don't want to download the whole file; so you'd have to learn what the file format is for a DTube link
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<MikeFair> Perhaps it's as simple as it being a directory and there's already a thumbnail/preview image built for you?
<marbar> well, MikeFair I can't see any relationship between the embed url (which contains something like /v/username/videokey) and the picture link (which has what looks like a big b64 string at the end)
<marbar> would you guys all make fun of me if i just scraped the page for it?
<MikeFair> Is there JS on the page that's turning that b64 data into the image file right in the browser?
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<MikeFair> Have you decoded that b64 data yet to see what it contains? Perhaps it's a CID reference
<marbar> i'm not sure yet
<marbar> oh good idea!
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<marbar> oh incorrect padding, it's not b64 after all
<MikeFair> If it's really long, it's probably not just an id
<marbar> here's a random one: QmfDJ4SWXBj33P1za4884dGSFjLBDfbYy8FLB3ZcXeRcji
<MikeFair> you can add === at the end to get the padding right
<marbar> yeah, kinda long
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<marbar> ooo
<MikeFair> hehe
<MikeFair> that's a CID
<MikeFair> ipfs get that
<marbar> i see
<marbar> (sort of)
<MikeFair> It's an address into IPFS
<MikeFair> of the thumbnail file
<marbar> well when i add === and b64decode, i get what looks like a series of weird bytes
<marbar> dude this is pretty neat
<MikeFair> yeah it's not b64 encoded; it's a native IPFS address
<MikeFair> (well it is encoded, but it's a usable CID in directly that form)
<marbar> well, i guess what i need is an automatic way to go from something like /v/allasyummyfood/ovsng5o3 to one of those CIDs
<MikeFair> That Qm thing is what you get back when you add a file or directory to IPFS
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<MikeFair> I wonder if they used IPLD for it
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<MikeFair> If they did, then you'd only need to know the root CID of the IPLD database (the you can just query that string from there)
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<marbar> oh man, do you think that's something dtube would tell peeps? i hope so.
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<MikeFair> I don't see why not
<marbar> omg MikeFair i just found out about ipfs like 20 mins ago
<marbar> it already sounds like the coolest thing i've ever heard of
<marbar> i'm guessing you made some of it?
<MikeFair> it's not like the ipld db address can be updated without the crypto key
<MikeFair> I wish I could claim some credit, but no, not yet
<marbar> are you using it for some projects?
<MikeFair> I am making a dumbed down website version of the daemon though
<MikeFair> yes, that's the plan; I need to work out how to work within some it's limitations; either by removing them and extending ipfs; or figuring out how to mate the use case to the way ipfs works
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<MikeFair> I need to make a database of related/hierarchical information that different people can manage different part of
<marbar> that sounds sick
<MikeFair> think of a "contact"/"address book" where other people can maintain their own phone numbers and addresses for you
<MikeFair> s/for you/and you simply subscribe to that information/
<MikeFair> It's like that; we each would maintain our own entry in the book; and everyone else can point at that entry
<MikeFair> It's a bit more complicated because you might want to remove yourself from being seen by certain books
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<marbar> that's really smart dude, great concept
<MikeFair> but that's the general idea
<MikeFair> IPFS does a great job at single owner, single thing, wide distribution; but compositing mutable things from multiple owners is kind of antithetical to some its core design principles
<marbar> doesn't IPFS have a "symlink" concept?
<MikeFair> I also really want to distribute immutable code
<MikeFair> it does, it's called IPNS
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<MikeFair> but they have to be traversed manually
<MikeFair> (meaning you have to stop and reroot the "path" in order to proceed down it)
<MikeFair> and there's no real concept for a "directory of IPNS entries"
<MikeFair> At least none that I've really been able to put tother yet
<marbar> are you thinking about adding it? :D
<MikeFair> It seems like all the 'pieces' are there, but the exact assembly process isn't something I've cracked yet
<MikeFair> yes
<marbar> tight
<MikeFair> but it comes back to "antithetical to some of IPFS' design philosophies"
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<MikeFair> One of the tenents of IPFS atm is immutable data paths
<MikeFair> these violates that 'rule'
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<MikeFair> So I could do it at the "app level" (my code could read in a directory or file with those addresses, update it in the app, and follow any links; but I was hoping it might be more "free to applications" in the sen ipfs would just "do the right thing" )
<MikeFair> It's also related to my work to host something DNS over IPFS
<MikeFair> fixed immutable strings, being "symlinks" to CIDs
<MikeFair> That way you could make the equivalent of a "filename" for IPFS
<MikeFair> Or a URL
<MikeFair> I've got most of the pieces worked out, just not the "translation" part in the middle; but I think it's doable
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