lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.13 is out! Please try out: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.13 | Also: #libp2p #ipfs-cluster #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<jounih[m]> Anyone using IPFS for owncloud storage?
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<whyrusleeping> jounih[m]: links to info on that?
<whyrusleeping> I'd be interested in trying it out
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<stavros> hello
<stavros> i run a public IPFS bridge but it times out half the time, how can i make it more reliable?
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<moriarty> how is filecoin doing these days?
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<federico3> Is there anything more detailed than https://github.com/libp2p/specs ?
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<mmelo> hey folks, not sure if it's the right forum... what is the main difference between ipfs.files.cat(hash) vs a get request to https://ipfs.io/ipfs/hash. In my app ipfs.files.cat only works after I make a request to https://ipfs.io/
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<voker57> mmelo: where is hash hosted?
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<voker57> ipfs.io is running go-ipfs, so that might be the difference
<mmelo> voker57: the hash is created and published in a browser. I'm using js-ipfs
<mmelo> the files.cat never resolves unless I open another tab and and request the same hash from ipfs.io
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<mmelo> the weird thing is that requesting ipfs.io/ipfs/hash in the second tab makes my files.cat resolves in the first tab
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<chiui> mmelo, it usually happens when a gateway (ipfs.io) can access two nodes which cannot communicate themselves
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<mmelo> interesting, do you think I can keep requesting ipfs.io gateway instead of files.cat? It does not seem right to me, I would expect that files.cat would resolve the hash by itself. Maybe I'm doing something wrong
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<voker57> that's certainly not the proper way. there's probably some trouble in js-ipfs connectivity, it uses quite a complicated scheme to contact other nodes
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<TrUsT_n1> Any guidence for learning ipfs files and how it works? I've been unsuccessful so far on how it works.
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<whyrusleeping> TrUsT_n1: what are you wanting to do?
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<TrUsT_n1> @whyrusleeping I'm trying to figure out how to create a dir and add files to it.
<voker57> ipfs files mkdir /mydir; ipfs files cp /ipfs/QmFoo /mydir/file1
<voker57> you need to `ipfs add` the file beforehand and substitute the hash for QmFoo
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<TrUsT_n1> @voker57 Ok, so it's a virtual folder not stored in / "root"
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<TrUsT_n1> @voker57 If you mkdir /mydir is not actually stored in /. Do I have the correct.
<TrUsT_n1> @voker57 I think I got it. It's a virtual directory structure stored inside IPFS. It does not exist until you create it.
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<TrUsT_n1> ipfs files: is a local namespace. That is still shared globaly since it's IPFS hosted. Is this correct.
<voker57> TrUsT_n1: right
<cipres> hi TrUsT_n1 . yes but no one can remotely list what's in that namespace until they have access to the api port right ?
<voker57> no, they can sniff the network for it
<cipres> oh can they
<voker57> as well as all of your pins
<TrUsT_n1> @cypher Anyone can see it as long as they have the hash.
<cipres> right
<cipres> also regarding that, when you do a ipfs files mkdir
<cipres> does that directory have some hash associated to it ?
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<TrUsT_n1> So instead of just having a ton of things pinned. You can actually take the already pinned items and orgnize them in a local namespace.
<TrUsT_n1> To make things easier to find or trying to remember all of your different pins.
<cipres> absolutely
<TrUsT_n1> Mind blown.
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<voker57> cipres: yes
<lidel> \o/
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<steelman> Thanks. I was going to ask if published stuff is somehow pinned so it won't be gc-d after a while.
<voker57> published as in ipfs add-ed?
<voker57> it's pinned by default
<TrUsT_n1> Well, that just solved a huge problem which is great. Now I have to design a namespace and fill it with already pinned items.
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<ivo> hello, does anyone know if pubsub currently signs messages when you publish them?
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<Guest47870> as far as I can read the source, pubsub currently does not implement any form of message signing
<Guest47870> is that correct?
<steelman> voker57: no, rather like in ipfs name publish. thanks again, I wan't expecting adding to pin too.
<steelman> wasn't
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<voker57> no, name publish does not pin
<voker57> also, stuff in ipfs files is pinned too
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<TrUsT_n1> what does ipfs files flush do?
<TrUsT_n1> I'm sure it does something but I don't see where everything went.
<Mr0grog> voker57: w/r/t the idea TrUsT_n1 was just talking about with making a directory in order to give pins names, is that similar to one of the issues you were trying to solve in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4763 and https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/4757 ?
<steelman> voker57: so how does local namespace, which can be used instead of pinning as cipres says, relates to name publish?
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<voker57> steelman: it isn't related
<TrUsT_n1> @Mr0grog So the flush will help with some kind of transition from pinning today to the pinning of tomorrow which is more orgnized.
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<voker57> Mr0grog: yeah, I'm currently using ipfs files for that purpose too
<voker57> TrUsT_n1: flush writes files data to disk. it's already done by other ipfs files commands, but if you use them with --flush-false and then run flush, you can write to disk all at once
<Mr0grog> Neat! I think it would be helpful both to that issue maybe to others if you could write up a quick example of how you do that in https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/4763 . It might help people understand a concrete use-case and its drawbacks.
<voker57> how I do what, use ipfs files?
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<TrUsT_n1> @voker57 Ah! I never tried the --flush-false. I could see where this would be a big help to do a large batch and flush all at once.
<Mr0grog> Yes
<Mr0grog> How you use them as a workaround to name your pins
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<TrUsT_n1> @Mr0grog I use ipfs files now as a workaround to name pins. It sounds like in the future... there may be a different way to do this.
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<voker57> I'll add it to RFC I guess
<Mr0grog> The impression I get from the issue and the proposed PR is that it's a little up for debate and @whyrusleeping wants to have some discussion about the design. So I think people sharing
<Mr0grog> can really help drive that discussion in a productive way
<Mr0grog> B) *how* they are accomplishing those workarounds and how they work or don't work well
<Mr0grog> A) that they are already using workarounds to do it now and
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<TrUsT_n1> Can you request a hash that is not on-line now to get later when the node comes on-line?
<TrUsT_n1> At this point the ipfs get just hangs waiting to get it.
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<cipres> TrUsT_n1: of course it's gonna hang there ;)
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<cipres> it's gonna time out at some point i suppose
<TrUsT_n1> @cipres Guess that's an idea. IPFS hash queue
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<captainproton__> hi all
<whyrusleeping> o/
<captainproton__> wow, it’s lively here
<captainproton__> when does everyone come around?
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<whyrusleeping> it comes and goes
<whyrusleeping> most people are here, and if someone starts up a conversation it can get a bit loud at times
<whyrusleeping> silence just means people are off hacking on something :)
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