01:08 <nmz787> ah, cool

01:08 <nmz787> throw it up on piratebay or whatever

01:08 <nmz787> i guess that's easier said than don

01:08 <nmz787> done*

01:10 <nmz787> so I don't understand why the valves in that ALD paper were so expensive... the data sheets don't really seem impressive either. They don't (seem to) mention what material they use, ex. Viton or nitrile, etc... and they actuation time seems pretty slow. I guess the main things that come to my mind re: important characteristics are low/no leakage, and chemical compatibility

02:07 <Noxz> brand name, swagelock, double the price

02:07 <Noxz> I just had to hack my electric shaver.. I thought the motor had shorted out, but the comutator was all goofy.. the transistor that tells the motor to turn blew

02:08 <Noxz> likely from a short within the commutator

02:08 <Noxz> which arose from the cheapo plastic gear spinning on the motor shaft from over use

02:08 <Noxz> would be neat to rebuild it with quality components and such.. the best part about it is the form factor

02:09 <Noxz> I dont have any small transistors on hand, so I just ran some wires from motor + and battery + out of the strat button and physically wired them to get it going

02:09 <Noxz> if it's too much hassle (shoudl still recharge fine) in the next few days I'll order a replacement because I really liked it, and they're on sale right now too

02:13 <Noxz> but on that other note, looks like Stec PV piezo valves on ebay go for ~125 on the low end, which seems nice

02:13 <Noxz> maybe the controller would add a bit, I see some listed on there

02:13 <Noxz> or even brand new

02:14 <Noxz> like, I love ebay, but sometimes getting the whole package is where it's at

02:14 <Noxz> and new

02:31 <Noxz> my cellphone is terrible, I am sorry.. Isince I am in a sort of hacking mood I opened up my AG-LS25 piezo stage that had one of the wires pulled out.. I learned it was for the limits, tested the movement and it still works: https://imgur.com/a/Jux1z

02:31 <Noxz> but the actual structure of the thing is rather interesting

02:32 <Noxz> one really only one drive voltage needed

02:32 <Noxz> no idea what that voltage is at this moment, but yeah

02:33 <Noxz> not sure if that lil thing is worth the $708 list price or not

02:33 <Noxz> I get oa set on them from ebay :)

02:33 <Noxz> 8

02:33 <Noxz> with a 6 channel controller iirc

02:34 <Noxz> while testing them all that one had a wired pulled out so I stopped mucking with it till now.. interesting how they did the limit, but really is a very minimal way to do it as well

02:34 <Noxz> the main thing was the structure of the piezo+steel

02:41 <Noxz> I was expecting more 'fingers' in contact with the saddle

02:51 <Noxz> intersting how that compliant area needs to work, as I assume the piezo can either only ever contract/expand, causing the stage to move forward or back, but at the end of each step the contact point has to move away, then back to staring position (contact) without rubbing it back

02:51 <Noxz> every animation I have seen showed multiple contact points for motion