22:07 <B0101> azonenberg: Have you done metal deposition by metal evaporation before?

22:08 <azonenberg> B0101: Yes, but not in my own lab

22:08 <azonenberg> it was using a professionally made tool intended for coating SEM samples

22:08 <azonenberg> the process is simple enough that i'm confident i could build one given the time

22:13 <soul-d> this looks like a channel that can apreciate a random plot of data http://i.imgur.com/dJJTgWM.jpg

22:15 <soul-d> now on break with coffee :P might try somthing with countrymap and contour ploting ater on now back playing with finincial data

22:16 <soul-d> http://i.imgur.com/6gWyy8X.png

22:16 <soul-d> more in the osciloscope line :P you see any global warming patern their azon ? :P

22:17 <azonenberg> soul-d: what are you ploitting?

22:17 <soul-d> thats 100 year data of average daily temps

22:17 <soul-d> last plos is avr min max

22:19 <soul-d> color plot botom is 1901 x = days in year where 0 is jan

22:20 <soul-d> http://imgur.com/a/W1YzV

22:20 <soul-d> just finished fist finencial test

22:20 <soul-d> top plot is generated in python from 1minute data

23:24 <diginet> do you have to use gold for SEM coating?

23:24 <diginet> I've thought about trying to acquire a SEM, but if you have to use gold, that's kind of a deterrent (expensive consumables/cost to operate)

23:27 <Sync_> with a small amount of gold you can go a long way

23:27 <Sync_> it's not as expensive as you think

23:29 <diginet> oh, I know, it just feels. . .well, wrong to waste it :P

23:29 <Sync_> wut

23:29 <diginet> I have weird hangups about consumables in general

23:29 <diginet> like I feel guilty about buying food because it feels like a waste of money (which is clearly absurd)

23:30 <diginet> like I refuse to ever get helium balloons, the concept just bothers me, since helium is such a finite resource

23:30 <Sync_> then you should never weld tig

23:31 <Sync_> using helium as a shielding gas makes welding Al such a charm

23:31 <diginet> why not Ar?

23:31 <Sync_> lower arc temperature

23:31 <Sync_> or rather less heat input

23:35 <Sync_> but yeah liquid helium is getting quite spendy

23:41 <diginet> that legitimately worries me, once we use up helium it's gone. Our neon, for example, comes from the atmosphere, and goes back into it when we're done, in theory that can be renewed

23:41 <diginet> but not helium

23:48 <Sync_> we still get he from natural gas wells

23:58 <diginet> I know, but we are depleting it faster than it is being renewed