ec changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a ๐ฏ๐๐ ๐๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐๐ slash sอฬuออpออeฬฬบrฬผฬฆiฬผฬoฬฬฌrฬฬ cฬอแปฅฬงอแธทฬกอลฃอฬ || #ELLIOTTCABLE is not about ELLIOTTCABLE
<ec>
joepie91: it's not, lol
<ec>
joepie91: I read that and was like โwut.โ
<ec>
yorick: what's sha2017?
<ec>
so I uh, just bought an enterprise datacenter rackmount enclosure, kinda-by-accident'
<ec>
I was gonna get a small-ish one for my laboratory (have had electronic equipment slowly stacking up over the years)
<ec>
โฆ but I found an modern, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, full-enclosure 42U rack that was refurbished ...
<ec>
for like $US 300.
<ec>
that's worth like $3,000.
<ec>
so uh I guess I'm gonna have a gigantic tower of electronics in one corner of my workspace, moving forward? ;_;
<ec>
I'd go except it looks like it's probably pretty druggy
<joepie91>
ec: not likely. the drug of choice is caffeine
<ec>
really?
<joepie91>
and you'll probably find some weed and alcohol depending on which circles you hang out in
<joepie91>
but it's not like a music festival
<ec>
the last โbilled as an outdoors-y form-less programming eventโ turned out to be pretty substance-heavy hahaha
<joepie91>
oh, I'm sure that *some* people will be on the heavier stuff
<joepie91>
but it's very unlikely that it'll dominate the event
<joepie91>
in fact, it's more likely that people causing trouble over it get thrown out
<ec>
cool
<ec>
the word โfestivalโ generally scares me off
<joepie91>
club mate is the 'drug' of choice :P
<joepie91>
(think a very bitter-y caffeinated ice tea)
<pikajude>
club-mate lel
<pikajude>
that's what it's for
<ec>
I thought mate was a weird psychedelic tea
<ec>
good to know, thank you joepie91 <3
<yorick>
ec: european hacker culture doesn't like mind-numbing stuff
<ec>
really?
<ec>
maybe I need to move to europe :x
<jfhbrook>
define mind-numbing
<jfhbrook>
mate is just yet another mild stimulant no?
<jfhbrook>
these days you can get mate at many coffee shops as an alternative to tea
<jfhbrook>
me, I'll stick with coffee
<ec>
my concern isn't with illegality; hell, I'm a huge supporter of legalisation
<ec>
just have horrible uncomfortableness with mind-altering substances, particularly ones that make people appear dumber or less-capable to me
<jfhbrook>
yeah no problems there
<ec>
i'm a bad human >:
<ec>
I always thought mate โ caffeine tho
<joepie91>
ec: you're in good company, btw
<ec>
hm
* joepie91
feels uncomfortable around most under-influence people
<ec>
idk, joepie91, maybe in 2015
<ec>
but 2017 seems to be the year of the pothead
<pikajude>
you are a bad human
<joepie91>
ec: the "don't like people appearing dumber or less capable" thing, I mean
<jfhbrook>
I'm usually under the influence of something
<ec>
I lost my last, singular, never-has-smoked-pot friend recently
<ec>
kinda fucked me up
<ec>
whereas a few years ago, it was more like 50% of the people I met would do pot
<joepie91>
jfhbrook: (club) mate is basically just caffeine but in a composition that makes the effect last pretty long and without a crash (although I'm unsure what exactly makes that happen)
<joepie91>
ec: there are very, very, very few people in my experience who don't consume any consciousness-altering substances (excluding caffeine here because while it's a stimulant, it doesn't really affect behaviour otherwise)
<jfhbrook>
outside utah ^^
<jfhbrook>
many of the people I worked with there didn't even drink soda
<joepie91>
even if the consumption at eg. European hacker events is low, it does happen, and those same people will usually happily drink alcohol etc. outside of those events
<joepie91>
well, I have no idea about Utah :P
<joepie91>
ec: funny, I think we're scarily similar on this topic :P
<jfhbrook>
tbh the best part of nodecamp 2012 was that marak brought a huge pile of weed
<joepie91>
ec: like, I could write almost every single one of those lines you've written over the past 10 minutes, myself
<ec>
jfhbrook: lol yeah I was there
<ec>
and yes, indeed, you are correct that the worst part of nodecamp 2012 was that mark brought a huge pile of weed.
* ec
nods sagely
<ec>
very accurate assessment, thank you for your astute observations
<ec>
I do not remember who mark is
<ec>
marak
<ec>
I remember going to pick everyone up some In 'n Out, tho ๐คฃ
<ec>
jesus christ, joepie91, didn't realise you were thing
<joepie91>
ec: 'thing'?
<ec>
a thing*
<ec>
~5k followers
<ec>
thought you were just an IRC dudeio
<ec>
been talking to glowcoil a lot about this
<ec>
was surprisingly helpful
<joepie91>
ec: oh. well, I am just an IRC dude, but one that's been loud enough often enough to have amassed some followers and a police raid
<joepie91>
lol
<ec>
police raid, lmfao
<joepie91>
ec: incidentally, I did a talk about that raid at OHM2013, the predecessor of SHA2017...
<joepie91>
ec: but yeah, I do a bunch of activist-y stuff and that sometimes gains attention etc.