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<ec> joepie91: it's not, lol
<ec> joepie91: I read that and was like โ€œwut.โ€
<ec> yorick: what's sha2017?
<ec> so I uh, just bought an enterprise datacenter rackmount enclosure, kinda-by-accident'
<ec> I was gonna get a small-ish one for my laboratory (have had electronic equipment slowly stacking up over the years)
<ec> โ€ฆ but I found an modern, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, full-enclosure 42U rack that was refurbished ...
<ec> for like $US 300.
<ec> that's worth like $3,000.
<ec> so uh I guess I'm gonna have a gigantic tower of electronics in one corner of my workspace, moving forward? ;_;
<jfhbrook> I have a crappier server rack
<jfhbrook> I put shelves on it, it holds books
<jfhbrook> poorly, mind you
<jfhbrook> but yeah, it's a kitschy piece of furniture
<jfhbrook> oh wow
<jfhbrook> that's impressive
<joepie91> ec: SHA2017 == https://sha2017.org/, hacker camp in NL
<ec> jfhbrook: right!?
<ec> like so freaking unnecessary but
<jfhbrook> yeah that's dank
<ec> idk I guess I'll throw some LED-strips in it and make it glow a cool colour from the inside or something
<ec> people will think I run a secret supercomputer cracking NSA codes or something ๐Ÿ™„
<ec> โ€˜camping festivalโ€™ wut
<joepie91> ec: pitch a tent for 4 days and hack on stuff, go to talks, meet up with other people, party, etc.
<joepie91> ec: likely several thousand people attending
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<ec> gughah
<ec> so. exhaust.
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<Pyrrh> ec maybe if you used clean energy you wouldn't have exhaust
<Pyrrh> ijs
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<ec> Pyrrh: ._-.
<Pyrrh> in hindsight that pun was terrible enough that I am a little sorry
<ec> Pyrrh: frack you.
<ec> Pyrrh: hahah don't worry, it wasn't *that* crude.
<Pyrrh> bahaha
<Pyrrh> good morning to you too
<ec> something something I hear there's a pipeline problem in tech?
<Pyrrh> XD
<Pyrrh> I'm not awake enough to make excellent oil jokes
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<yorick> ec: sha2017 is the new ohm2013 https://sha2017.org/
<pikajude> well fuck me, what am i gonna do today
<pikajude> stupid days off work
<ec> yorick: I've never heard of any of these
<ec> looks like a famous thing tho
<ec> I'd go except it looks like it's probably pretty druggy
<joepie91> ec: not likely. the drug of choice is caffeine
<ec> really?
<joepie91> and you'll probably find some weed and alcohol depending on which circles you hang out in
<joepie91> but it's not like a music festival
<ec> the last โ€œbilled as an outdoors-y form-less programming eventโ€ turned out to be pretty substance-heavy hahaha
<joepie91> oh, I'm sure that *some* people will be on the heavier stuff
<joepie91> but it's very unlikely that it'll dominate the event
<joepie91> in fact, it's more likely that people causing trouble over it get thrown out
<ec> cool
<ec> the word โ€˜festivalโ€™ generally scares me off
<joepie91> club mate is the 'drug' of choice :P
<joepie91> (think a very bitter-y caffeinated ice tea)
<pikajude> club-mate lel
<pikajude> that's what it's for
<ec> I thought mate was a weird psychedelic tea
<ec> good to know, thank you joepie91 <3
<yorick> ec: european hacker culture doesn't like mind-numbing stuff
<ec> really?
<ec> maybe I need to move to europe :x
<jfhbrook> define mind-numbing
<jfhbrook> mate is just yet another mild stimulant no?
<jfhbrook> these days you can get mate at many coffee shops as an alternative to tea
<jfhbrook> me, I'll stick with coffee
<ec> my concern isn't with illegality; hell, I'm a huge supporter of legalisation
<ec> just have horrible uncomfortableness with mind-altering substances, particularly ones that make people appear dumber or less-capable to me
<jfhbrook> yeah no problems there
<ec> i'm a bad human >:
<ec> I always thought mate โ‰  caffeine tho
<joepie91> ec: you're in good company, btw
<ec> hm
* joepie91 feels uncomfortable around most under-influence people
<ec> idk, joepie91, maybe in 2015
<ec> but 2017 seems to be the year of the pothead
<pikajude> you are a bad human
<joepie91> ec: the "don't like people appearing dumber or less capable" thing, I mean
<jfhbrook> I'm usually under the influence of something
<ec> I lost my last, singular, never-has-smoked-pot friend recently
<ec> kinda fucked me up
<ec> whereas a few years ago, it was more like 50% of the people I met would do pot
<joepie91> jfhbrook: (club) mate is basically just caffeine but in a composition that makes the effect last pretty long and without a crash (although I'm unsure what exactly makes that happen)
<joepie91> ec: there are very, very, very few people in my experience who don't consume any consciousness-altering substances (excluding caffeine here because while it's a stimulant, it doesn't really affect behaviour otherwise)
<jfhbrook> outside utah ^^
<jfhbrook> many of the people I worked with there didn't even drink soda
<joepie91> even if the consumption at eg. European hacker events is low, it does happen, and those same people will usually happily drink alcohol etc. outside of those events
<joepie91> well, I have no idea about Utah :P
<joepie91> ec: funny, I think we're scarily similar on this topic :P
<jfhbrook> tbh the best part of nodecamp 2012 was that marak brought a huge pile of weed
<joepie91> ec: like, I could write almost every single one of those lines you've written over the past 10 minutes, myself
<ec> jfhbrook: lol yeah I was there
<ec> and yes, indeed, you are correct that the worst part of nodecamp 2012 was that mark brought a huge pile of weed.
* ec nods sagely
<ec> very accurate assessment, thank you for your astute observations
<ec> I do not remember who mark is
<ec> marak
<ec> I remember going to pick everyone up some In 'n Out, tho ๐Ÿคฃ
<ec> jesus christ, joepie91, didn't realise you were thing
<joepie91> ec: 'thing'?
<ec> a thing*
<ec> ~5k followers
<ec> thought you were just an IRC dudeio
<ec> been talking to glowcoil a lot about this
<ec> was surprisingly helpful
<joepie91> ec: oh. well, I am just an IRC dude, but one that's been loud enough often enough to have amassed some followers and a police raid
<joepie91> lol
<ec> police raid, lmfao
<joepie91> ec: incidentally, I did a talk about that raid at OHM2013, the predecessor of SHA2017...
<joepie91> ec: but yeah, I do a bunch of activist-y stuff and that sometimes gains attention etc.
<joepie91> it's... not much more than that :P