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<kanzure>
no doxxing tromp :P
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<waxwing>
tromp, yes
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<tromp>
waxwing i've been struggling to get through the stanford papers, so your write-up is a godsend. thx so much for putting in this major effort to share your understanding
<tromp>
two typos i found so far: midway page 7 "do not hold" shld be "do hold"
<tromp>
bottom page 12: C0 = sH + zG - Sum e^iCi
<waxwing>
tromp, thanks, glad to know it's useful. on p. 7, it's a bit obscure but what i meant by 'two previous equalities' was r=s and a=b
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<musalbas>
A unicorn data structure that I want but is probably impossible: an append-only Merkle tree that supports non-inclusion proofs, with O(log(n)) time or lower for proving consistency (append-only) between different versions of the tree
<musalbas>
basically RFC 6962's tree, but with efficient non-inclusion proofs
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<kanzure>
musalbas: what is an "efficient" non-inclusion proof?
<kanzure>
i know what a non-inclusion proof is (show the nearby leafs)
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<aj>
kanzure: isn't an efficient one showing the leaves, and an inefficient one showing the entire set?
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<kanzure>
that's what i had thought but i think there was another definition
<aj>
kanzure: musalbas's problem is just that the leaves in an append only tree aren't in lexical order so the non-inclusion proof doesn't work i think
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<superkuh>
What is a "Payment Protocol URL" and is it actually a part of the consensus bitcoin protocol?
<kanzure>
it's not part of consensus but it's probably talking about the payment protocol from bip70
<superkuh>
Thanks. I'll read up.
<sipa>
the URL is actually in BIP72
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<tromp>
waxwing: on p17, Cv for zero v, is just a public key kH, zk provable with a plain Schnorr sig
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